• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:21
CET 08:21
KST 16:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Terran AddOns placement How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh Recent recommended BW games TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02
Tourneys
BWCL Season 64 Announcement The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Online Quake Live Config Editor Tool Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Just Watchers: Why Some Only…
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2284 users

Race Win Rates Update: May

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 23 24 25 Next All
Ctuchik
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 14:53:22
June 07 2011 14:01 GMT
#1
There have been over 1700 tournament and league games added for May to TLPD, so it's time to update the win rate graph.

Win rates per race over the last 9 months. [EDIT: TL.net colors]
[image loading]

There are a few changes from last time. First of all, the data is now both International and Korean games, combined. I've also expanded the scope to go back as far as September 2010.

All data is from Team Liquids Player Database.

If you like this I'd recommend you follow my twitter SC2StatisticsSC2Statistics where I also do live stats before big games and tournaments.

And Reddit.


http://twitter.com/sc2statistics
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 07 2011 14:06 GMT
#2
Please please separate Korean data from International. Even though the number of games is sadly small, Korea is still a very good indicator of future international trends - as we've now seen with ZvP.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
June 07 2011 14:09 GMT
#3
Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>

I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon.
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
June 07 2011 14:09 GMT
#4
what I see is that TvP and ZvT are approaching equal percentages for each race and PvZ is slowly separating for each race with Z on top.
coLCruncher fighting!
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 07 2011 14:11 GMT
#5
On June 07 2011 23:09 Mailing wrote:
Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>

I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon.

Uh yes? That's the trend: Korean Protosses are doing horribly.

Not sure why you're disagreeing.
Lynkilen
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway211 Posts
June 07 2011 14:11 GMT
#6
Looks like ZvP could use some slight innovation from P's, surprisingly even considering all the balance QQ
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
June 07 2011 14:12 GMT
#7
great data! it seems no one can really complain about balance for the time being. that's great, good job Blizzard!
Morphs
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands645 Posts
June 07 2011 14:13 GMT
#8
Yes please separate the Korean and EU/NA results. Both were too different to simply merge and I won't believe that in a single month both suddenly have similar ratios.
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
June 07 2011 14:13 GMT
#9
On June 07 2011 23:06 Yaotzin wrote:
Please please separate Korean data from International. Even though the number of games is sadly small, Korea is still a very good indicator of future international trends - as we've now seen with ZvP.


I believe Korean trends are more pronounced by whoever wins the GSL, as usual more games means better statistics.

Interesting how in the last 1-2 months the zerg crying was turned on it's head, is it time for other races to start whining ? :D
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 14:15:24
June 07 2011 14:15 GMT
#10
On June 07 2011 23:11 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 23:09 Mailing wrote:
Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>

I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon.

Uh yes? That's the trend: Korean Protosses are doing horribly.

Not sure why you're disagreeing.


I am saying the good protoss are doing fine, and the bad protoss are doing bad.

As opposed to months ago when the good protoss were winning and the bad protoss were still making top 16
Are you hurting ESPORTS? Find out today - http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=232866
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
June 07 2011 14:16 GMT
#11
On June 07 2011 23:13 Zaphid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 23:06 Yaotzin wrote:
Please please separate Korean data from International. Even though the number of games is sadly small, Korea is still a very good indicator of future international trends - as we've now seen with ZvP.


I believe Korean trends are more pronounced by whoever wins the GSL, as usual more games means better statistics.

Interesting how in the last 1-2 months the zerg crying was turned on it's head, is it time for other races to start whining ? :D


IdrA would disagree we are just bad and protoss is still broken.

It would be better if you could split up the NA/EU from Korean stats if possible but thanks for info either way
Master Sc2 - Diamond LoL - Eu W
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
June 07 2011 14:17 GMT
#12
So everything's within 3% balanced?

Seems fine to me. Obviously we have to treat all data with a little caution, but nothing seems amiss here.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
June 07 2011 14:18 GMT
#13
Fantastic graphs! I have a really stupid request if possible lol:

I'm used to Zerg = Red, Terran = Blue, Protoss = Green from years of surfing Teamliquid. Would it be possible to do some color swapouts?

Regardless, I LOVE seeing data like this :D
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
June 07 2011 14:19 GMT
#14
On June 07 2011 23:17 sgtcodfish wrote:
So everything's within 3% balanced?

Seems fine to me. Obviously we have to treat all data with a little caution, but nothing seems amiss here.


If you are going by that PvZ has been even closer balanced than that since February. If you read the posts by zerg in the forums you would think it wasnt that close
Master Sc2 - Diamond LoL - Eu W
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
June 07 2011 14:20 GMT
#15
On June 07 2011 23:15 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 23:11 Yaotzin wrote:
On June 07 2011 23:09 Mailing wrote:
Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>

I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon.

Uh yes? That's the trend: Korean Protosses are doing horribly.

Not sure why you're disagreeing.


I am saying the good protoss are doing fine, and the bad protoss are doing bad.

As opposed to months ago when the good protoss were winning and the bad protoss were still making top 16

The good tosses are doing badly. Alicia has done nothing. MC has done poorly in last 2 GSLs. Ace is useless in Korea he just wins in foreigner tournaments. Squirtle has done nothing.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 07 2011 14:20 GMT
#16
Awesome work, keep it up!
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
June 07 2011 14:22 GMT
#17
I wonder if the disparity between those statistics and the NASL racial stats (that have disappeared mysteriously) are only due to the sample size or if the KO system employed by most tourneys might warp the match-up stats.

It should be possible to tell with a statistical test, though I'm not sure which one atm.
Ctuchik
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden91 Posts
June 07 2011 14:22 GMT
#18
On June 07 2011 23:18 Day[9] wrote:
Fantastic graphs! I have a really stupid request if possible lol:

I'm used to Zerg = Red, Terran = Blue, Protoss = Green from years of surfing Teamliquid. Would it be possible to do some color swapouts?

Regardless, I LOVE seeing data like this :D


Oh, are those the generally accepted colors? I was actually thinking quite a bit about this before settling on the ones I have now. It's incredibly easy to change though.

I can also very easily bring up International and Korean numbers only, but it's not as useful as some of you may think. The sample size of the Korean games is small enough that you can't really draw any conclusions from them, and international numbers are basically unchanged if you remove Koreans.
http://twitter.com/sc2statistics
Grumblethorpe
Profile Joined February 2011
36 Posts
June 07 2011 14:23 GMT
#19
great stats! nice to see Zergs finally breaking the 50% mark in zvp
aurum510
Profile Joined July 2010
United States229 Posts
June 07 2011 14:24 GMT
#20
How can IdrA cry about ZvP... It's the most imbalanced matchup and it's in favor of Zerg...
1 2 3 4 5 23 24 25 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft519
Lowko157
NeuroSwarm 109
SortOf 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 27341
GuemChi 3402
actioN 661
PianO 541
Mong 404
Leta 214
ToSsGirL 82
NaDa 58
Dewaltoss 20
Jaeyun 14
[ Show more ]
Backho 11
Icarus 11
League of Legends
JimRising 789
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K897
m0e_tv470
Other Games
summit1g8157
C9.Mang0313
Happy198
Livibee69
Mew2King36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick700
Counter-Strike
PGL222
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• iopq 0
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1664
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 39m
Wardi Open
4h 39m
Monday Night Weeklies
9h 39m
Replay Cast
16h 39m
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Ultimate Battle
4 days
Light vs ZerO
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS5
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.