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There have been over 1700 tournament and league games added for May to TLPD, so it's time to update the win rate graph.
Win rates per race over the last 9 months. [EDIT: TL.net colors]
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yAbZn.png)
There are a few changes from last time. First of all, the data is now both International and Korean games, combined. I've also expanded the scope to go back as far as September 2010.
All data is from Team Liquids Player Database.
If you like this I'd recommend you follow my twitter SC2StatisticsSC2Statistics where I also do live stats before big games and tournaments.
And Reddit.
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Please please separate Korean data from International. Even though the number of games is sadly small, Korea is still a very good indicator of future international trends - as we've now seen with ZvP.
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Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>
I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon.
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what I see is that TvP and ZvT are approaching equal percentages for each race and PvZ is slowly separating for each race with Z on top.
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On June 07 2011 23:09 Mailing wrote: Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>
I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon. Uh yes? That's the trend: Korean Protosses are doing horribly.
Not sure why you're disagreeing.
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Looks like ZvP could use some slight innovation from P's, surprisingly even considering all the balance QQ
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great data! it seems no one can really complain about balance for the time being. that's great, good job Blizzard!
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Yes please separate the Korean and EU/NA results. Both were too different to simply merge and I won't believe that in a single month both suddenly have similar ratios.
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On June 07 2011 23:06 Yaotzin wrote: Please please separate Korean data from International. Even though the number of games is sadly small, Korea is still a very good indicator of future international trends - as we've now seen with ZvP.
I believe Korean trends are more pronounced by whoever wins the GSL, as usual more games means better statistics.
Interesting how in the last 1-2 months the zerg crying was turned on it's head, is it time for other races to start whining ? :D
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On June 07 2011 23:11 Yaotzin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:09 Mailing wrote: Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>
I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon. Uh yes? That's the trend: Korean Protosses are doing horribly. Not sure why you're disagreeing.
I am saying the good protoss are doing fine, and the bad protoss are doing bad.
As opposed to months ago when the good protoss were winning and the bad protoss were still making top 16
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On June 07 2011 23:13 Zaphid wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:06 Yaotzin wrote: Please please separate Korean data from International. Even though the number of games is sadly small, Korea is still a very good indicator of future international trends - as we've now seen with ZvP. I believe Korean trends are more pronounced by whoever wins the GSL, as usual more games means better statistics. Interesting how in the last 1-2 months the zerg crying was turned on it's head, is it time for other races to start whining ? :D
IdrA would disagree we are just bad and protoss is still broken.
It would be better if you could split up the NA/EU from Korean stats if possible but thanks for info either way
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So everything's within 3% balanced?
Seems fine to me. Obviously we have to treat all data with a little caution, but nothing seems amiss here.
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Fantastic graphs! I have a really stupid request if possible lol:
I'm used to Zerg = Red, Terran = Blue, Protoss = Green from years of surfing Teamliquid. Would it be possible to do some color swapouts?
Regardless, I LOVE seeing data like this :D
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On June 07 2011 23:17 sgtcodfish wrote: So everything's within 3% balanced?
Seems fine to me. Obviously we have to treat all data with a little caution, but nothing seems amiss here.
If you are going by that PvZ has been even closer balanced than that since February. If you read the posts by zerg in the forums you would think it wasnt that close
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On June 07 2011 23:15 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:11 Yaotzin wrote:On June 07 2011 23:09 Mailing wrote: Not really. Korean protoss are falling apart, to the point where only Alicia, MC, Ace, Squirtle, and maybe Huk are having any form of consistent results, namely because they are actually really good players who belong in Code S >>
I would suspect the rest, like inca/anypro/tester/hongun/sangho to fall out of code S soon. Uh yes? That's the trend: Korean Protosses are doing horribly. Not sure why you're disagreeing. I am saying the good protoss are doing fine, and the bad protoss are doing bad. As opposed to months ago when the good protoss were winning and the bad protoss were still making top 16 The good tosses are doing badly. Alicia has done nothing. MC has done poorly in last 2 GSLs. Ace is useless in Korea he just wins in foreigner tournaments. Squirtle has done nothing.
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Awesome work, keep it up!
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I wonder if the disparity between those statistics and the NASL racial stats (that have disappeared mysteriously) are only due to the sample size or if the KO system employed by most tourneys might warp the match-up stats.
It should be possible to tell with a statistical test, though I'm not sure which one atm.
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On June 07 2011 23:18 Day[9] wrote: Fantastic graphs! I have a really stupid request if possible lol:
I'm used to Zerg = Red, Terran = Blue, Protoss = Green from years of surfing Teamliquid. Would it be possible to do some color swapouts?
Regardless, I LOVE seeing data like this :D
Oh, are those the generally accepted colors? I was actually thinking quite a bit about this before settling on the ones I have now. It's incredibly easy to change though.
I can also very easily bring up International and Korean numbers only, but it's not as useful as some of you may think. The sample size of the Korean games is small enough that you can't really draw any conclusions from them, and international numbers are basically unchanged if you remove Koreans.
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great stats! nice to see Zergs finally breaking the 50% mark in zvp
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How can IdrA cry about ZvP... It's the most imbalanced matchup and it's in favor of Zerg...
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