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QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
April 14 2011 16:35 GMT
#1
I've recently adjusted my mouse setting
per Cecil Shunkure's thread regarding
mouse acceleration.

I've turned it off in the Win7 registry, and
have disabled the 'enhance pointer
precision' setting as well. These changes
have been brutal on my gameplay... I'm
currently playing at 1600 DPI on my razer
imperator, with 51 % in game sensitivity.


It's been three days since I've changed but
I can't seem to get it down yet. T_T.
My mouse has been flying all over the
place, and its been extremely frustrating.
I'm a 3350 masters player from last
season, but now I'm regularly losing to
lower level players due to abysmal
control...

My forcefields miss regularly, I mismicro
my units, and every once in a while ill end up looking at a totally insignificant part of the map because of a sudden movement. I frequently
box too large or too small, and I mis-hotkey because I think I've selected when I
haven't. It's quite depressing and I have to
stay away from the ladder to avoid getting too frustrated.

Has anyone similar issues? If so, words of
tips/advice/encouragement would really be appreciated.

Thanks
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
April 14 2011 16:38 GMT
#2
I'm using a new steelseries kinzu, it's really lightweight, fast, accurate, the one problem is that the double clicking is super sensitive , causes me to lose games , play slower, and make alot of mistakes, i suggest just sitting down and taking as much time as it possibly takes to get the ' perfect ' setting, thats what i did, constant trial and error. gl
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:43:20
April 14 2011 16:40 GMT
#3
My only advice is not to listen to these "optimal settings" and instead use whatever feels the most natural to you.

I'm using settings that I made through trial and error, something like 800 DPI and ~60 in-game sensitivity. Its probably not optimal and "1:1" or whatever the hell that means, but who cares? I'm high masters and I don't feel my problems stem from my mouse being too inaccurate. Starcraft doesn't make you click on individual pixels, the more important part is for your mousehand to feel natural, so you can focus on the actual gameplay.
Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
April 14 2011 16:41 GMT
#4
I'd say go back to the settings that were working for you. I recently made the switch to the same settings you did and it actually improved my accuracy, but if that is not the case for you, then go back to what worked.
I kinda miss Idra...
Turo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada333 Posts
April 14 2011 16:41 GMT
#5
sounds like your mouse is just too sensitive for you, try turning the DPI down?
Cragus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada144 Posts
April 14 2011 16:42 GMT
#6
I made the switch a few months back, and I played tons of minesweeper to adapt. It worked pretty well, so i would suggest that.
aka Nakji/Сталкер/Reed
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:44:02
April 14 2011 16:43 GMT
#7
On April 15 2011 01:38 GGzerG wrote:
I'm using a new steelseries kinzu, it's really lightweight, fast, accurate, the one problem is that the double clicking is super sensitive , causes me to lose games , play slower, and make alot of mistakes, i suggest just sitting down and taking as much time as it possibly takes to get the ' perfect ' setting, thats what i did, constant trial and error. gl


Off-topic, but you are aware that the Kinzu is the only gaming mouse with acceleration built in and you cant turn it off? It has an advantage over software mouse acceleration but you should be aware - I use one myself.

On-topic, you say it has been 3 days, but how many hours have you put in? It should only take 8 hours or so of SC2 to be accustomed to new mouse settings (unlike acceleration, which you can never be 'accustomed' to). If you are worried about your ladder rank, play customs or mouse training UMS maps.

Edit: you can play mouse trainers like OSU, minesweeper, or missionred outside of SC2 but the settings may not be the same.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
April 14 2011 16:43 GMT
#8
original thread?
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:47:19
April 14 2011 16:43 GMT
#9
What is your resolution? 1600 dpi is a lot, I play on 1600x1200 with 450, so you may want to try out a lower dpi to increase accuracy.

I suggest playing "Osu!". It is a fun rhythm game that depends heavily on mouse accuracy. After being able to make it through one track on the easiest difficulty, move up. Do this again and again. If you spend a few days playing like this, your body and brain will be forced to figure out your new mouse setup.

Don't listen to this guy:
On April 15 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
My only advice is not to listen to these "optimal settings" and instead use whatever feels the most natural to you.


You will adapt, quicker than you think with practice. Once you do, it will be a world of difference. It's like laddering to Masters doing only 4 gate, then trying out different builds. It takes a while, but once you figure it out it's much more rewarding.

glhf.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
War Horse
Profile Joined January 2011
United States247 Posts
April 14 2011 16:43 GMT
#10
Switch down the DPI or drop the in-game sensitivity.
Why appeal to God when you can appeal to Apaches?
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:46:48
April 14 2011 16:45 GMT
#11
Set ur windows sensitivity to 6/11 and in game to any setting u wish as long as it isnt divisible by 5. I use my death adder on 3500 dpi, and at 61% in game and my mouse goes and clicks where I want it. I never did any of the mouse acceleration shit buddy did because if you have a mouse with it's own drivers and firmware, your mouse's polling rate in the firmware should override it anyways.
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Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
April 14 2011 16:45 GMT
#12
I don't get it why do people think it is bad to use mouse acceleration. If you feel comfortable with it then use it. I doubt that if you have mouse acceleration on you get some kind of error whenever you try to reach more than 3350 points.
War Horse
Profile Joined January 2011
United States247 Posts
April 14 2011 16:46 GMT
#13
On April 15 2011 01:45 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
I don't get it why do people think it is bad to use mouse acceleration. If you feel comfortable with it then use it. I doubt that if you have mouse acceleration on you get some kind of error whenever you try to reach more than 3350 points.

its not really a big deal

enhanced pointer precision is
Why appeal to God when you can appeal to Apaches?
TURKISHRAMBO
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-14 16:50:20
April 14 2011 16:49 GMT
#14
On April 15 2011 01:43 Misanthrope wrote:
What is your resolution? 1600 dpi is a lot, I play on 1600x1200 with 450, so you may want to try out a lower dpi to increase accuracy.

I suggest playing "Osu!". It is a fun rhythm game that depends heavily on mouse accuracy. After being able to make it through one track on the easiest difficulty, move up. Do this again and again. If you spend a few days playing like this, your body and brain will be forced to figure out your new mouse setup.

Don't listen to this guy:
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On April 15 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
My only advice is not to listen to these "optimal settings" and instead use whatever feels the most natural to you.


You will adapt, quicker than you think with practice. Once you do, it will be a world of difference. It's like laddering to Masters doing only 4 gate, then trying out different builds. It takes a while, but once you figure it out it's much more rewarding.

glhf.

450? wow. 1600 is NOT alot. i would say its very normal for most fps/rts players.

nobody is saying you SHOULDN'T use acceleration. If you need it then play with it! Its all personal preference and nobody can tell you other wise. Play with what you are comfortable with.
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
April 14 2011 16:49 GMT
#15
On April 15 2011 01:46 War Horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 01:45 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
I don't get it why do people think it is bad to use mouse acceleration. If you feel comfortable with it then use it. I doubt that if you have mouse acceleration on you get some kind of error whenever you try to reach more than 3350 points.

its not really a big deal

enhanced pointer precision is


Ok, so if someone uses enhanced pointer precision and feels comfortable with it, people think it is somewhat of a disadvantage?
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
April 14 2011 16:51 GMT
#16
Did you try something less than 1600 dpi?
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
April 14 2011 16:53 GMT
#17
I play without accel as well, I use g9 and I aim everything perfectly,but maybe its cause I come from a FPS background.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
April 14 2011 16:57 GMT
#18
On April 15 2011 01:51 Treemonkeys wrote:
Did you try something less than 1600 dpi?

yes I experimented with 1200 and 1400 but then I have a lot of trouble scrolling. Like its to the point where I feel like my mouse pad needs to be twice as wide. I'm plating at 1920x1080 btw.

Thanks for all the advice guys, its really helpful.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 14 2011 16:58 GMT
#19
Your enter key seems to be mallfunctioning.
TURKISHRAMBO
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada148 Posts
April 14 2011 16:59 GMT
#20
Ive been using 1800 since i had first bought a razer diamondback.

use 1800 on my Xai now ^^
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