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ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
April 14 2011 23:25 GMT
#61
just adapt first in custom games. feel comfortable before you head off for ladder.
xd
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
April 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#62
On April 15 2011 04:38 artanis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 04:10 Keldrath wrote:
On April 15 2011 01:49 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
On April 15 2011 01:46 War Horse wrote:
On April 15 2011 01:45 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
I don't get it why do people think it is bad to use mouse acceleration. If you feel comfortable with it then use it. I doubt that if you have mouse acceleration on you get some kind of error whenever you try to reach more than 3350 points.

its not really a big deal

enhanced pointer precision is


Ok, so if someone uses enhanced pointer precision and feels comfortable with it, people think it is somewhat of a disadvantage?


the reason it is considered a disadvantage is because the pointer moves faster/slower based on how fast you are moving the mouse. this causes the amount of movement it takes to close a certain distance inconsistent. which is terrible for muscle memory, since it will never be the same every time.


This sounds like it needs some proof. I have mouse accel enabled and have no problems at 150~ APM when microing small groups of marines.


I'm not sure why you're arguing, because it's basicly the only thing mouse accelerations does. Increases your cursor speed depending certain tresholds of movement.

This is why it's always recommended to be off for every gamer, because you can't muscle memory something that's not constant, atleast not to the same extent.
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lindn
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden833 Posts
April 14 2011 23:26 GMT
#63
On April 15 2011 01:35 QTIP. wrote:
I've recently adjusted my mouse setting
per Cecil Shunkure's thread regarding
mouse acceleration.

I've turned it off in the Win7 registry, and
have disabled the 'enhance pointer
precision' setting as well. These changes
have been brutal on my gameplay... I'm
currently playing at 1600 DPI on my razer
imperator, with 51 % in game sensitivity.


It's been three days since I've changed but
I can't seem to get it down yet. T_T.
My mouse has been flying all over the
place, and its been extremely frustrating.
I'm a 3350 masters player from last
season, but now I'm regularly losing to
lower level players due to abysmal
control...

My forcefields miss regularly, I mismicro
my units, and every once in a while ill end up looking at a totally insignificant part of the map because of a sudden movement. I frequently
box too large or too small, and I mis-hotkey because I think I've selected when I
haven't. It's quite depressing and I have to
stay away from the ladder to avoid getting too frustrated.

Has anyone similar issues? If so, words of
tips/advice/encouragement would really be appreciated.

Thanks

errh.... lower the sensitivity % ingame or the DPI?
Juffalo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States155 Posts
April 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#64
I recently just turned mouse acceleration off. While it felt reallllly weird at first I have since gotten used to it and definitely feel like it has improved the consistency - and speed - of my movements at long distances. The improvent was slight but tangible and I never really noticed my inaccuracies before.

I would encourage you to stick with it, just go to your desktop and practice boxing icons and moving from corner to corner for half an hour for a couple days and you should adapt pretty quickly.
Maetl
Profile Joined August 2010
United States93 Posts
April 15 2011 00:20 GMT
#65
On April 15 2011 08:26 kaztah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 04:38 artanis2 wrote:
On April 15 2011 04:10 Keldrath wrote:
On April 15 2011 01:49 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
On April 15 2011 01:46 War Horse wrote:
On April 15 2011 01:45 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
I don't get it why do people think it is bad to use mouse acceleration. If you feel comfortable with it then use it. I doubt that if you have mouse acceleration on you get some kind of error whenever you try to reach more than 3350 points.

its not really a big deal

enhanced pointer precision is


Ok, so if someone uses enhanced pointer precision and feels comfortable with it, people think it is somewhat of a disadvantage?


the reason it is considered a disadvantage is because the pointer moves faster/slower based on how fast you are moving the mouse. this causes the amount of movement it takes to close a certain distance inconsistent. which is terrible for muscle memory, since it will never be the same every time.


This sounds like it needs some proof. I have mouse accel enabled and have no problems at 150~ APM when microing small groups of marines.


I'm not sure why you're arguing, because it's basicly the only thing mouse accelerations does. Increases your cursor speed depending certain tresholds of movement.

This is why it's always recommended to be off for every gamer, because you can't muscle memory something that's not constant, atleast not to the same extent.


Nearly every top professional Quake player plays with some amount of mouse acceleration, some even massive amounts. I don't know whether the windows implementation of acceleration is any good, but acceleration is not an inherently terrible thing that can not be worked around. It's just a bit harder as you have to get used to not only the distance to move the mouse, but the speed to move it at as well.
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
April 15 2011 00:25 GMT
#66
readjust your settings immediately. leave pointer precision off, but adjust the windows scroll speed and bnet away from 51%. honestly do whats best for you!
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RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
April 15 2011 00:26 GMT
#67
i hate mouse acceleration... cant play with it

its totally preferential
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C5Five
Profile Joined March 2011
England53 Posts
April 15 2011 00:28 GMT
#68
Mouse acceleration has always been a horrible feature; It's like when valve tried to add that crap into CS back in the days and everybody's cursor was always deviating away from where they wanted to shoot their damn guns.

RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
April 15 2011 01:46 GMT
#69
On April 15 2011 02:43 Bear4188 wrote:
Set the dpi to whatever allows you to reach all four corners of the screen with the amount of movement that's comfortable to you.

That's all there is to it really.
If you want to be accurate, you can play the multitude games that's been pointed out on teamliquid.net such a ozu, missionred or minesweeper (lol ? Didn't think that would help you but meh :p) the EPP, accelration and everything is just a matter of preference. some argue that sometimes they're not accurate, but you could've get used to it aswell so whatever.

Regards
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FuzZyLogic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
April 15 2011 02:00 GMT
#70
Why are you using someone else's settings if they make you play terribly? Just play with what you're used to, it doesn't really matter in sc2 like it would in cs:s.

Playing mouse precision flash games won't make you better. There are a few pros that still use the microsoft optical intellimouse which probably has a default dpi of 450.

Do you actually think most really good players obsess over mouse settings? Just play with what you're comfortable with and focus on improving your gameplay .
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
April 15 2011 02:09 GMT
#71
Change the sensitivity settings around a bit if necessary, to help gradually accustom yourself to playing with a higher sensitivity, but don't go back to mouse acceleration.

I'm surprised that you're having problems with it being overly sensitive since turning off acceleration, since the opposite should be the case.
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Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
April 15 2011 02:42 GMT
#72
When I switched from acceleration to no acceleration, I didn't have much issues nor did I notice an improvement.

I recommend if you turn off acceleration that you increase DPI/sensitivity more to compensate.

Acceleration is a pretty good way of increasing sensitivity of a mouse when your DPI is already caped and are already running (or don't want to run lower) at low resolution.
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Flying_Cake
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 04:07:44
April 15 2011 04:07 GMT
#73
Who said mouse acceleration is better? Seriously.. play with what your comfortable..
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
April 15 2011 04:22 GMT
#74
how on earth did you format your thread like that?
why the FUCK is anyone taking you seriously?
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wattra
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada37 Posts
April 15 2011 05:58 GMT
#75
If your mouse is flying all over the screen you should turn down your sensitivity in game or lower your dpi until it feels at least similar to before. Then you can start to get used to having no acceleration at a sensitivity close to what it used to be.

I have been trying to lower my dpi over time, mostly playing fps, to increase my accuracy. Right now I feel that I am in a good spot for accuracy. In sc2 I run with the sensitivity slider as low as it goes at 800 dpi with my Roccat Kone+ on a Steelseries QcK Heavy mouse pad.
Skrelt
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands306 Posts
April 15 2011 06:05 GMT
#76
go to missionred.com (i mayby misspelled it)

It is a site where you can train your mouse skilzz, it helps alot. atleast worked for mee
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Endure
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 06:10:10
April 15 2011 06:07 GMT
#77
On April 15 2011 11:00 FuzZyLogic wrote:
Why are you using someone else's settings if they make you play terribly? Just play with what you're used to, it doesn't really matter in sc2 like it would in cs:s.

Playing mouse precision flash games won't make you better. There are a few pros that still use the microsoft optical intellimouse which probably has a default dpi of 450.

Do you actually think most really good players obsess over mouse settings? Just play with what you're comfortable with and focus on improving your gameplay .

There's a reason people don't use mouse accel, anyone who has played a fps competitively knows the reasoning and have tested it, why not take a few days to get used to something that in general will make you better?
Also micro is precision, so it very much so does matter in sc2 as much as it does in cs:s.
FuzZyLogic
Profile Joined December 2010
United States141 Posts
April 15 2011 11:38 GMT
#78
Most high level sc2 players make hundreds of unnecessary clicks every minute, there doesn't seem to be much precision involved.
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
April 15 2011 11:58 GMT
#79
On April 15 2011 13:22 Vei wrote:
how on earth did you format your thread like that?
why the FUCK is anyone taking you seriously?

he already explained that troll now go troll someone else
Attica
Profile Joined February 2010
United States277 Posts
April 15 2011 12:14 GMT
#80
On April 15 2011 01:45 Arkless wrote:
Set ur windows sensitivity to 6/11 and in game to any setting u wish as long as it isnt divisible by 5. I use my death adder on 3500 dpi, and at 61% in game and my mouse goes and clicks where I want it. I never did any of the mouse acceleration shit buddy did because if you have a mouse with it's own drivers and firmware, your mouse's polling rate in the firmware should override it anyways.


Can someone elaborate why you don't want the in game sensitivity divisble by 5? Mine is at 75% right now...
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