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QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 16:09:52
April 15 2011 16:02 GMT
#81
hey guys, just wanted to give a quick update.

I've lowered my dpi to 1200 and its been much more comfortable. I played maybe a solid two hours of mouse accuracy + custom/koth's and its helped a ton. Thanks for your help, I can actually start playing my 'game' again and focus on improving without iceskating all over the map. It's beginning to feel more like an 'extension' of my hand motions, which i think is its greatest benefit...

Sorry for the formatting, my phone's browser is being retarded, wasn't trying to write a haiku lol..
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 15 2011 16:05 GMT
#82
If you have 1600 DPI I'd say that that's way too much if you use the max settings. Use the mouse's drivers to tune the DPI down a bit. My mouse is 1800DPI and I only use it at about 6/10.
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Chriamon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States886 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-15 16:13:57
April 15 2011 16:13 GMT
#83
On April 15 2011 01:49 TURKISHRAMBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 01:43 Misanthrope wrote:
What is your resolution? 1600 dpi is a lot, I play on 1600x1200 with 450, so you may want to try out a lower dpi to increase accuracy.

I suggest playing "Osu!". It is a fun rhythm game that depends heavily on mouse accuracy. After being able to make it through one track on the easiest difficulty, move up. Do this again and again. If you spend a few days playing like this, your body and brain will be forced to figure out your new mouse setup.

Don't listen to this guy:
On April 15 2011 01:40 Bagi wrote:
My only advice is not to listen to these "optimal settings" and instead use whatever feels the most natural to you.


You will adapt, quicker than you think with practice. Once you do, it will be a world of difference. It's like laddering to Masters doing only 4 gate, then trying out different builds. It takes a while, but once you figure it out it's much more rewarding.

glhf.

450? wow. 1600 is NOT alot. i would say its very normal for most fps/rts players.

nobody is saying you SHOULDN'T use acceleration. If you need it then play with it! Its all personal preference and nobody can tell you other wise. Play with what you are comfortable with.

Actually, a lot of people are saying you SHOULDN'T use acceleration. Thats the entire point of disabling it, it causes your mouse to move at variable speeds which you cannot account for, no matter how "used to" it you are, and thus you will be less accurate with your clicks.

And to OP, you said your mouse is "flying all over the place." Sounds like you havent actually accomplished what you think you did. When you disable acceleration your mouse should seem slower. If you did disable acceleration, you probably ramped up your sensetivity or something.
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Hollywise
Profile Joined December 2010
France112 Posts
April 15 2011 16:14 GMT
#84
On April 15 2011 01:45 Arkless wrote:
Set ur windows sensitivity to 6/11 and in game to any setting u wish as long as it isnt divisible by 5. I use my death adder on 3500 dpi, and at 61% in game and my mouse goes and clicks where I want it. I never did any of the mouse acceleration shit buddy did because if you have a mouse with it's own drivers and firmware, your mouse's polling rate in the firmware should override it anyways.

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pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
April 15 2011 16:22 GMT
#85
holy crap. im some sort of machine apparently because i play with 2200 dpi on 100% sensitivity. i dont know how you guys play with like 600 and lower sensitivity
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
April 15 2011 16:28 GMT
#86
On April 16 2011 01:22 pfods wrote:
holy crap. im some sort of machine apparently because i play with 2200 dpi on 100% sensitivity. i dont know how you guys play with like 600 and lower sensitivity


So basically you move your mouse in one square centimeter the entire game? That's not even good for you.
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MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
April 15 2011 16:31 GMT
#87
Removing mouse acceleration? good move.

All it takes is some time to get used to and practise. I mean you probably spend a good amount of your time on default settings and now you're adjusting to the new changes.

It's like using a 17 inch screen to a 25 inch, a wooden bat to a steel bat. Radical changes and it takes time to adjust.

Sure somethings can be learned really quickly but things like this,

It takes time to learn and readjust.
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niggy
Profile Joined March 2011
United States26 Posts
April 15 2011 17:28 GMT
#88
I actually find that turning off acceleration GREATLY improved my control OP. Took a minute to get used to but I feel so much more in control now.
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pfods
Profile Joined September 2010
United States895 Posts
April 15 2011 21:03 GMT
#89
On April 16 2011 01:28 Treemonkeys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 01:22 pfods wrote:
holy crap. im some sort of machine apparently because i play with 2200 dpi on 100% sensitivity. i dont know how you guys play with like 600 and lower sensitivity


So basically you move your mouse in one square centimeter the entire game? That's not even good for you.


not good for me? is it increasing my LDL or something?
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
April 15 2011 21:05 GMT
#90
I suppose as long as you are relaxed with your mouse hand it wouldn't be any different than playing guitar.
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gronnelg
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway354 Posts
May 04 2011 14:49 GMT
#91
I tried removing acceleration, or mouse precision as win7 calls it.
I put the win mouse speed to 6/11
A few issues I'm wondering about:
The mouse speed felt so damn slow all of the sudden, that I had to boost the ingame mouse speed a lot. This felt fairly nice in the mainscreen, but turned out to be WAY to much on the minimap.
So removing acceleration seems to be a problem in mainscreen vs minimap.
Any similar experiences/advice?
Lulzez || My stream: http://www.twitch.tv/gronnelg
Magictek
Profile Joined January 2011
United States17 Posts
May 04 2011 15:05 GMT
#92
I agree that you should play with what you are most comfortable with although I turn off all acceleration because I want to be very consistent with where my mouse pointer will be with the same movement/travel distance of the actual mouse instead of the rate that I move the mouse.

What was your DPI before? What is comfortable for one person will not be the same for the other. You mentioned the mouse going all over the place then lower the DPI. I suggest working your way up the DPI scale until you get to the one you like.
Magictek
Profile Joined January 2011
United States17 Posts
May 04 2011 15:06 GMT
#93
On April 16 2011 01:02 QTIP. wrote:
hey guys, just wanted to give a quick update.

I've lowered my dpi to 1200 and its been much more comfortable. I played maybe a solid two hours of mouse accuracy + custom/koth's and its helped a ton. Thanks for your help, I can actually start playing my 'game' again and focus on improving without iceskating all over the map. It's beginning to feel more like an 'extension' of my hand motions, which i think is its greatest benefit...

Sorry for the formatting, my phone's browser is being retarded, wasn't trying to write a haiku lol..


nice, sorry didn't read this before posting my reply, but ya I think sticking with no acceleration is good and just play with DPI will give the most consistant gaming/accuracy results.
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
May 04 2011 15:09 GMT
#94
Idk man, i use 3500 DPI and 65% sensitivity :/
Magictek
Profile Joined January 2011
United States17 Posts
May 04 2011 15:09 GMT
#95
On May 04 2011 23:49 gronnelg wrote:
I tried removing acceleration, or mouse precision as win7 calls it.
I put the win mouse speed to 6/11
A few issues I'm wondering about:
The mouse speed felt so damn slow all of the sudden, that I had to boost the ingame mouse speed a lot. This felt fairly nice in the mainscreen, but turned out to be WAY to much on the minimap.
So removing acceleration seems to be a problem in mainscreen vs minimap.
Any similar experiences/advice?


I would not boost the ingame speed of the mouse, it would be better to increase the DPI on the mouse (assuming you have one that you can). I am not sure but if you do a software increase then it would be harder to select things that are closer together like on the minimap.
HaeHei
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom162 Posts
May 04 2011 15:26 GMT
#96
for me i am using razer deathadder 3500dpi and 53% on sc2 and did the same thing you did with win7 and mouse acceleration i did have it one before but now it is just perfect one way i got used to using this setup really fast is just to do some mouse clicking games such as osu! this really helped me plus just trying to adapt was hard at first but you just gotta keep at it if you want to use the settings you want
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gronnelg
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway354 Posts
May 04 2011 15:30 GMT
#97
I'm having a really hard time with lateral movement without accerleration.
Up and down is fair enough, but sideways is WAY to slow as the distances can be greater. Is there a way to make the sensitivity higher only on sideway movement?
Lulzez || My stream: http://www.twitch.tv/gronnelg
Xlancer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States126 Posts
May 04 2011 15:36 GMT
#98
When you turn off the mouse acceleration, you have to turn down your in game mouse speed by at least 10% I think I went from 72% to 53% when I turned it off. Micro is so much easier for me with mouse acceleration off
“The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.” - Friedrich Hegel
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
May 04 2011 15:39 GMT
#99
I recently took off mouse acceleration as well. I had to actually up my DPI to get the same sensitivity feel. It took me a solid 5 games of over deliberate clicking before I got used to how true mouse movement works, but now I feel much more accurate, and also because of no acceleration, my hand doesn't slowly drift to one side of the mosuepad, and there's not picking up and resetting the mouse. really nice.
Bro_Stone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States510 Posts
May 08 2011 19:21 GMT
#100
The key is to slowly increase your dpi, I started at 2000 and now play at 4000 comfortably
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