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Apexplayer
Profile Joined September 2009
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 07:50:30
January 25 2011 07:57 GMT
#1
House Passes Healthcare Repeal


So, if you haven't heard, the U.S. House of representatives passed a bill that repeals the most recent Healthcare changes. The vote was 245-189, with only three democrats voting in favor of the repeal. After this bill was passed, house Republicans started working on a new bill to replace the current one.

However, even though this passed through the house, it has 0% chance of becoming a law with the senate and Presidential veto in the way. So most are calling it a "symbolic" movement by the house Republicans.

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After a heated midterm election, the Republican-led U.S. House easily passed legislation Wednesday to repeal the nation's sweeping health care law.

The vote was 245-189. There were three Democrats who voted for repeal.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, talks to a reporter after the GOP-led House passed a bill to repeal the nation's health care law.

Overturning the law was a major campaign pledge for Republicans in the 2010 elections, and many of the House's nearly 100 new lawmakers ran for Congress saying they would repeal the law pushed by President Obama and Democrats.

House Speaker John Boehner said the law would add nearly $1.5 trillion to the deficit and stifle the growth of some small businesses, which are required under the law to provide health insurance to employees or face penalties. A key issue for Republicans is that the law requires all Americans to have health insurance.

"Let's stop payment on this check before it can destroy more jobs and put us in an even deeper hole," Boehner said. "Then let's work together to put in place reforms that lower costs without destroying jobs or bankrupting this government."

Democrats failed in their procedural attempt to send the repeal bill back to committee for a discussion. Meanwhile, House Republicans are already preparing for four House committees to take the next step in the repeal effort and figure out ways to change the law.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius reminded Americans that "this vote does not change the law" and that her department will continue to implement its provisions.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has vowed to block the measure, and Obama has threatened to veto it.

Reid denounced the House's repeal vote as a political stunt.

"This is nothing more than partisan grandstanding at a time when we should be working together to create jobs and strengthen the middle class," he said in a statement today.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., said the House was not engaged in a stunt. "This is not symbolic. This is why we were sent here," said Bachmann, a favorite of the small-government Tea Party movement.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., challenged Reid and Senate Democrats to show their votes and debate the measure if they are so confident of stopping the repeal effort.

"The American people deserve a full hearing," Cantor said this morning. "They deserve to see this legislation go to the Senate for a full vote."

President Obama signs the health care law last year.


Obama said he's willing to work with both Democrats and Republicans to improve the law, but "we can't go backward."

The only surprise in Wednesday's vote was how many Democrats would support the repeal effort.

In the end, Democrats Dan Boren of Oklahoma, Mike McIntyre of North Carolina and Mike Ross of Arkansas were the only Democrats to join 242 Republicans to vote for the repeal legislation.

One issue key to the repeal debate is how much the law costs and the impact overturning it would have on the deficit. USA TODAY's Kelly Kennedy reports Republicans say the law will add $701 billion to the deficit while Democrats say repealing the measure will cost $230 billion.

Yesterday, Cantor sought to ease concerns from seniors who might think they would have to return $250 they received under the law to help pay for prescription drug costs. Democrats such as Rep. Ed Markey of Massachusetts have said throughout the repeal debate that seniors could be among those affected the most by overturning the law.

Shortly after the law was passed last year, about 2.8 million recipients of Medicare who have a gap in their prescription drug coverage (known as the doughnut hole) received $250 checks to help them defray the cost of medicines.

Asked yesterday whether Republicans would seek to have that money returned, Cantor said no.

"If a repeal bill passes ... the intention is not to require seniors to return the $250 checks they received," Cantor said at his weekly news briefing.

(Contributing: Associated Press)


Personal Opinion:

Seriously? They are holding up the entire legislative process in order to pass bills that have no chance of becoming a law? All the mean while, wasting tax payers money doing literally zero work.

I am trying to continue my stance as politically moderate but it is getting harder and harder. The term 'symbolic' was used to describe this event but I prefer to think of it as, how Steven Colbert put: "Republicans Pretend Time." This is absolutely appalling, and is making me question ever voting Repub again.




Edit: Due to the outstanding ignorance in this thread here you go:

Basically what is being repealed is changes to the U.S. Policy considering insurance agencies listed in the first 2:00. Not all of these changes passed but some did. Obviously "Socialist Obamacare" Did NOT pass through congress so that CANNOT be repealed

UPDATE: Obama addresses this directly in the State of the Union:

Go to 33:30 and watch 2 minutes.
It was like watching a teacher settle a dispute between two children.
John Boehner did not clap after Obama guaranteed his veto.
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
January 25 2011 08:03 GMT
#2
100% political showboating. It pisses me off that they're wasting our time with this.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
January 25 2011 08:05 GMT
#3
Well even if it is 100% political showboating, 90% of politics is showboating, so what's new? :D In other news, the healthcare bill destroys jobs and will cost trillions of dollars. If we don't repeal it ASAP, the terrorists win.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 25 2011 08:23 GMT
#4
On January 25 2011 17:05 Gummy wrote:
Well even if it is 100% political showboating, 90% of politics is showboating, so what's new? :D In other news, the healthcare bill destroys jobs and will cost trillions of dollars. If we don't repeal it ASAP, the terrorists win.

How sad how often I hear/read/see those kinds of comments said seriously and so commonly.
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Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
January 25 2011 08:25 GMT
#5
American politics... *face palm*
VonLego
Profile Joined June 2010
United States519 Posts
January 25 2011 08:25 GMT
#6
You'd rather they sit around and do nothing as opposed to working to repeal that bill as they promised their voters? The bill was never popular in the first place, and for good reason. Health care reform is an important topic, but the underhanded tactics and recklessness that were involved in passing the bill in the first place shouldn't be the methodology.
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
January 25 2011 08:27 GMT
#7
Well Insurance companies pay allot of money to insure that health care remains privatized.
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 25 2011 08:30 GMT
#8
Hasn't like every other western world country already had this for like 70 years or so? Ah well. Hope it turns out alright for you, but imho keeping it is the best thing you can do.
Democrats are considered right wing over here though, so I guess my view of things are somewhat skewed.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Nyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Rwanda460 Posts
January 25 2011 08:36 GMT
#9
On January 25 2011 17:27 Jswizzy wrote:
Well Insurance companies pay allot of money to insure that health care remains privatized.


I hope the pun was intended

On January 25 2011 17:30 Euronyme wrote:
Hasn't like every other western world country already had this for like 70 years or so? Ah well. Hope it turns out alright for you, but imho keeping it is the best thing you can do.
Democrats are considered right wing over here though, so I guess my view of things are somewhat skewed.


They don't even have it yet, if only they knew what it was like

Yeah compared to our politics everybody in the us is far far right lol
nexitustl1
Profile Joined December 2010
156 Posts
January 25 2011 08:39 GMT
#10
its great to see this happen, after seeing countless states ready to fight this in court or already finding the forced government approved health insurance unconstitutional this horrible piece of legislation will be gone. With the republicans and also democrats (believe it or not) finding new and actually helpful legal ways to fix our health care system can begin.
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 08:41:12
January 25 2011 08:40 GMT
#11
On January 25 2011 17:25 VonLego wrote:
You'd rather they sit around and do nothing as opposed to working to repeal that bill as they promised their voters? The bill was never popular in the first place, and for good reason. Health care reform is an important topic, but the underhanded tactics and recklessness that were involved in passing the bill in the first place shouldn't be the methodology.


Think about this for just a moment? They are getting absolutely nowhere, so they are doing absolutely nothing. Sure, they promised their voters something, but when has that ever fucking mattered in US politics anyway? I didn't vote Republican this midterm, but I would still prefer if they worked on important topics that they could actually make headway on...something beneficial to BOTH parties.

But that wouldn't make for good showboating/pundit fuel. So our Congress will stick to being useless shits.
inFeZa
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia556 Posts
January 25 2011 08:43 GMT
#12
Your politics over there seem like they are as big of a joke as they are in Australia.
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nexitustl1
Profile Joined December 2010
156 Posts
January 25 2011 08:44 GMT
#13
On January 25 2011 17:40 Whiladan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 17:25 VonLego wrote:
You'd rather they sit around and do nothing as opposed to working to repeal that bill as they promised their voters? The bill was never popular in the first place, and for good reason. Health care reform is an important topic, but the underhanded tactics and recklessness that were involved in passing the bill in the first place shouldn't be the methodology.


Think about this for just a moment? They are getting absolutely nowhere, so they are doing absolutely nothing. Sure, they promised their voters something, but when has that ever fucking mattered in US politics anyway? I didn't vote Republican this midterm, but I would still prefer if they worked on important topics that they could actually make headway on...something beneficial to BOTH parties.

But that wouldn't make for good showboating/pundit fuel. So our Congress will stick to being useless shits.

name one thing everyone in the entire political system can agree on to make headway? Doing things like this is what they have to do to get things moving in ANY direction also its all about political posturing and getting the point across.
Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
January 25 2011 08:44 GMT
#14
I'm so glad that the House voted to give themselves a salary increase for the third term in a row, they clearly deserve it.

/facepalms
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nufcrulz
Profile Joined February 2010
Singapore934 Posts
January 25 2011 08:48 GMT
#15
On January 25 2011 17:36 Nyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 17:27 Jswizzy wrote:
Well Insurance companies pay allot of money to insure that health care remains privatized.


I hope the pun was intended

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 17:30 Euronyme wrote:
Hasn't like every other western world country already had this for like 70 years or so? Ah well. Hope it turns out alright for you, but imho keeping it is the best thing you can do.
Democrats are considered right wing over here though, so I guess my view of things are somewhat skewed.


They don't even have it yet, if only they knew what it was like

Yeah compared to our politics everybody in the us is far far right lol


i think he was referring to the Swedish Democrats, not the Democrats in the United States.. heh...
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-25 08:51:03
January 25 2011 08:49 GMT
#16
On January 25 2011 17:44 Tianx wrote:
I'm so glad that the House voted to give themselves a salary increase for the third term in a row, they clearly deserve it.

/facepalms


Meanwhile Federal civilians get no increase for two years, veterans get no increase for three years, and active duty military get the lowest pay-raise since 1962.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
January 25 2011 08:57 GMT
#17
On January 25 2011 17:48 nufcrulz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 17:36 Nyx wrote:
On January 25 2011 17:27 Jswizzy wrote:
Well Insurance companies pay allot of money to insure that health care remains privatized.


I hope the pun was intended

On January 25 2011 17:30 Euronyme wrote:
Hasn't like every other western world country already had this for like 70 years or so? Ah well. Hope it turns out alright for you, but imho keeping it is the best thing you can do.
Democrats are considered right wing over here though, so I guess my view of things are somewhat skewed.


They don't even have it yet, if only they knew what it was like

Yeah compared to our politics everybody in the us is far far right lol


i think he was referring to the Swedish Democrats, not the Democrats in the United States.. heh...


Oh, I was actually reffering to the American ones. We only have the Social Democrats, and they are basically what the US would call ultra communists. You know they didn't only make university free, you also get a little money from studying. Ofcourse tax funded, but that's how it is.
The democrats of the US are pretty extreme right wing in probably most European countries.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Whiladan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States463 Posts
January 25 2011 08:58 GMT
#18
On January 25 2011 17:57 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 17:48 nufcrulz wrote:
On January 25 2011 17:36 Nyx wrote:
On January 25 2011 17:27 Jswizzy wrote:
Well Insurance companies pay allot of money to insure that health care remains privatized.


I hope the pun was intended

On January 25 2011 17:30 Euronyme wrote:
Hasn't like every other western world country already had this for like 70 years or so? Ah well. Hope it turns out alright for you, but imho keeping it is the best thing you can do.
Democrats are considered right wing over here though, so I guess my view of things are somewhat skewed.


They don't even have it yet, if only they knew what it was like

Yeah compared to our politics everybody in the us is far far right lol


i think he was referring to the Swedish Democrats, not the Democrats in the United States.. heh...


Oh, I was actually reffering to the American ones. We only have the Social Democrats, and they are basically what the US would call ultra communists. You know they didn't only make university free, you also get a little money from studying. Ofcourse tax funded, but that's how it is.
The democrats of the US are pretty extreme right wing in probably most European countries.


Silly goose, in America we call EVERYONE ultra-communists. If you're not Hitler, you're not trying! =P
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
January 25 2011 09:01 GMT
#19
well, as someone who used to work for the healthcare industry, they were really pissed at the health care reform bill
they worked really damn hard to get this repealed and they wont stop
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RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
January 25 2011 09:03 GMT
#20
You guys need to understand that this was a campaign promise. They told the people who voted for them that they would try to repeal it and they are. You may call it useless OP, but they have to start somewhere in repealing this awful bill. As for wasting taxpayers money, #1 they are doing work that people voted them in to do, and #2 what about the hundreds of billions this bill will add to the deficit? Maybe they should focus more on job creation right now, but honestly I support any attempt to repeal this legislation.
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