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All figures quoted are in USD based on a $10 buy in 64 or 65 player tournament.
This is happening right here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182313
Please stop posting "Blizz won't allow this" or "entry fees are illegal for onlines by blizz" BECAUSE IT IS NOT TRUE. it is perfectly legal, infact THERE IS AN OPTION FOR IT ON THEIR TOURNAMENT TRACKER PAGE. I am just waiting on my licence to go through!
I am planning (meaning if we can't or it is not viable it is not going to happen) to run a $5, $10, or $15 buy-in tournament with +$50 to the prize pot out of my pocket, for www.njfail.com (just for reference) the question is what is the way to get the most players in attendance. I was thinking and I believe I have three ways of doing this:
Swiss that cuts to a single or double elim tourney - Unlimited players
Swiss rounds would be on a Saturday playoffs on the following Sunday
Prize distributions:+ Show Spoiler +How it would work:+ Show Spoiler +
Here we can have as many players as we want, what happens is all players play a Bo1 or Bo3 match to start (completely randomized) because of the nature of this there will either be one or no byes. After this initial round there are two kinds of players those with a win and those with a loss 1-0 and 0-1 respectively. These players play a Bo1 or Bo3 match against a player with their same score 1-0 or 0-1, a bye counts as a win. There are now three kinds of players 2-0, 1-1, 0-2. Players play random matches against players with the same score inside the tourney, cross pairings only to avoid byes. This continues for X number of rounds and then the top 8, 16, or 32 are determined using their finishing place and a single or double elim is played.
The number of players to swiss rounds would look like:
<16 players - 3 rounds of swiss cut to top 4
16 -24 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to top 8
25-31 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 8
32-48 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to to 16
49-64 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 16
65-96 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to top 32
97-128 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 32
129-193 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to top 64
193-256 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 64
256+ players - 6 rounds of swiss cut to top 64
Double or Single elim tourney - capped at 32, 64, or 128 players
Prize Distribution+ Show Spoiler +
Round robin into single or double elim - unlimited players
How it would work+ Show Spoiler +Prize Distribution + Show Spoiler +
So the questions are TLers,
buy in at $5 or $10?
Swiss, Round Robin, or Single/Double Elim?
ONLY VOTE IF YOU WOULD ACTUALLY PAY TO PLAY
Otherwise just leave your responses below.
All suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome. I was inspired to make this happen because of the strong feelings coming from this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176783
To All those saying "DERP YOU CANT DO THIS!" or "BLIZZARD GONNA SHUT YOU DOWN!", you realize I got this from blizzard:
+ Show Spoiler +
This is happening right here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=182313
Please stop posting "Blizz won't allow this" or "entry fees are illegal for onlines by blizz" BECAUSE IT IS NOT TRUE. it is perfectly legal, infact THERE IS AN OPTION FOR IT ON THEIR TOURNAMENT TRACKER PAGE. I am just waiting on my licence to go through!
I am planning (meaning if we can't or it is not viable it is not going to happen) to run a $5, $10, or $15 buy-in tournament with +$50 to the prize pot out of my pocket, for www.njfail.com (just for reference) the question is what is the way to get the most players in attendance. I was thinking and I believe I have three ways of doing this:
Swiss that cuts to a single or double elim tourney - Unlimited players
Swiss rounds would be on a Saturday playoffs on the following Sunday
Prize distributions:+ Show Spoiler +
Based on 65 players at a $10 buy in
17-32nd - $10+
9-16th - $20+
5-8th - $30+
3&4th - $40+
2nd - $60+
1st - $120+
17-32nd - $10+
9-16th - $20+
5-8th - $30+
3&4th - $40+
2nd - $60+
1st - $120+
Here we can have as many players as we want, what happens is all players play a Bo1 or Bo3 match to start (completely randomized) because of the nature of this there will either be one or no byes. After this initial round there are two kinds of players those with a win and those with a loss 1-0 and 0-1 respectively. These players play a Bo1 or Bo3 match against a player with their same score 1-0 or 0-1, a bye counts as a win. There are now three kinds of players 2-0, 1-1, 0-2. Players play random matches against players with the same score inside the tourney, cross pairings only to avoid byes. This continues for X number of rounds and then the top 8, 16, or 32 are determined using their finishing place and a single or double elim is played.
The number of players to swiss rounds would look like:
<16 players - 3 rounds of swiss cut to top 4
16 -24 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to top 8
25-31 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 8
32-48 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to to 16
49-64 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 16
65-96 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to top 32
97-128 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 32
129-193 players - 4 rounds of swiss cut to top 64
193-256 players - 5 rounds of swiss cut to top 64
256+ players - 6 rounds of swiss cut to top 64
Double or Single elim tourney - capped at 32, 64, or 128 players
Prize Distribution+ Show Spoiler +
Based on a 64 player $10 buy in
17-32th - $10
9-16th - $15
5-8th - $30
3&4th - $45
2nd - $65
1st - $135
17-32th - $10
9-16th - $15
5-8th - $30
3&4th - $45
2nd - $65
1st - $135
Round robin into single or double elim - unlimited players
How it would work+ Show Spoiler +
So we randomly assign groups from there you play everyone in you groups, in Bo1 or Bo3 matches. From there the player with the best score advance to the main bracket. The number of players in each group and how many groups depend on players:
17-48 players - 8 groups with 3-6 players in each group
49-96 players - 16 groups with 3-6 players in each group
97-192 players - 32 groups with 3-6 players in each group
193+ - 64 groups with 3+ players in each group
17-48 players - 8 groups with 3-6 players in each group
49-96 players - 16 groups with 3-6 players in each group
97-192 players - 32 groups with 3-6 players in each group
193+ - 64 groups with 3+ players in each group
Based on a 65+ player pool with a $10 buy in
9-16th - $15+
5-8th - $30+
4&3rd - $60+
2nd -$100+
1st -$200+
at 97+ players there is a rearrangement in prizes to:
17-32nd - $10+
9-16th - $30+
5-8th - $50+
3$4th - $70+
2 - $120+
1 - $240+
and again at 193+ to include the 33-64th people
9-16th - $15+
5-8th - $30+
4&3rd - $60+
2nd -$100+
1st -$200+
at 97+ players there is a rearrangement in prizes to:
17-32nd - $10+
9-16th - $30+
5-8th - $50+
3$4th - $70+
2 - $120+
1 - $240+
and again at 193+ to include the 33-64th people
So the questions are TLers,
buy in at $5 or $10?
Swiss, Round Robin, or Single/Double Elim?
ONLY VOTE IF YOU WOULD ACTUALLY PAY TO PLAY
Poll: What should the buy in price be at?
$5 USD (106)
70%
$10 USD (27)
18%
$15 USD (18)
12%
151 total votes
$10 USD (27)
$15 USD (18)
151 total votes
Your vote: What should the buy in price be at?
Poll: What style should the tournament be in?
Swiss with cut to top 8/16/32 (49)
60%
Single/Double Elimination capped at 16,32,64, or 128 (26)
32%
Round Robin cut to top 16 or 32 (6)
7%
81 total votes
Single/Double Elimination capped at 16,32,64, or 128 (26)
Round Robin cut to top 16 or 32 (6)
81 total votes
Your vote: What style should the tournament be in?
(Vote): Swiss with cut to top 8/16/32
(Vote): Round Robin cut to top 16 or 32
(Vote): Single/Double Elimination capped at 16,32,64, or 128
Otherwise just leave your responses below.
All suggestions, advice, and comments are welcome. I was inspired to make this happen because of the strong feelings coming from this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=176783
To All those saying "DERP YOU CANT DO THIS!" or "BLIZZARD GONNA SHUT YOU DOWN!", you realize I got this from blizzard:
+ Show Spoiler +
Greetings,
Thank you for submitting your tournament license request.
We are in the process of reviewing your request and require more information about the participation fee. Please answer the following questions at your earliest convenience to move forward with the licensing process.
What is your tournament name and date?
How much fee will be charged for the participation?
How many people will be participating?
What is the total prize pool (in USD)?
Will the participation fee be used for the prize? If not, What will the fee be used for?
Any further information on the participation fee?
Regards,
Blizzard eSports Team
Thank you for submitting your tournament license request.
We are in the process of reviewing your request and require more information about the participation fee. Please answer the following questions at your earliest convenience to move forward with the licensing process.
What is your tournament name and date?
How much fee will be charged for the participation?
How many people will be participating?
What is the total prize pool (in USD)?
Will the participation fee be used for the prize? If not, What will the fee be used for?
Any further information on the participation fee?
Regards,
Blizzard eSports Team
