EPTIf I was a bit better I would me glad to pay 5$ to have some tournament experience ,I would see it as a way to support e-sport while having fun at the same time.
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
If I was a bit better I would me glad to pay 5$ to have some tournament experience ,I would see it as a way to support e-sport while having fun at the same time. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
im pretty sure that in most countrys on earth a publisher of a game dont have rights on tournements of this game. only because they "perhaps" have them in one little state called south kroea this doesnt mean they have it in every country. and do you really think bliz will sue a little trounement and get much hate form the fans even if they know they dont have a chance to win it? this licenc thing on there webseite is only to let you think they have controll over it. you dont have to fill it or get the ok from bliz to run a tournement... | ||
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cristo1122
Australia505 Posts
On December 16 2010 19:50 Markus138 wrote: to all those people quoting me that I should shut up: don't you realise what thise means? Everyone of us bought the game to enjoy it and some of us also for esports value. Suddenly guys are making tournaments with buy-in. So lots of people pay, a few win. SC2 is a game, an esports game. not a GAMBLING game. if one gets the permission others will get it too and soon you have hundreds of tournaments where poor people can't join. Great! That's what we want. Make only the rich guys winning! Firstly u can bet on anything as long as it has a clear outcome e.g. elections (not meant for gambling purposes but people still bet a lot on them) sometimes in tens of thousands of dollars Secondly there will always be tournaments that people will be able to join for free as will there be tournaments that people will pay to be in as some people including pros will be willing to pay the fees and others wont. In anycase sometimes it fun and exciting to take a small bet to make the game a little more exciting as you have something to lose as well as something to win. On December 17 2010 01:41 skeldark wrote: to this hole bliz will shut you down... im pretty sure that in most countrys on earth a publisher of a game dont have rights on tournements of this game. only because they "perhaps" have them in one little state called south kroea this doesnt mean they have it in every country. and do you really think bliz will sue a little trounement and get much hate form the fans even if they know they dont have a chance to win it? this licenc thing on there webseite is only to let you think they have controll over it. you dont have to fill it or get the ok from bliz to run a tournement... the license is not a license to control tournaments it is an cementing of blizzards intellectual property rights, this is mainly for the larger tournments and to protect themselves (blizzard) from any liability arising from people who are less than honourable. So it is more of a legal thing than the man wanting to control u and all that jazz. if you went off and did a tournament without their permission they would probly tell u to stop in order to maintain their intellectual property rights but they probly would not bother with the smaller tournaments with small prize pools. | ||
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Powster
United States650 Posts
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zDUST
Finland165 Posts
On December 16 2010 20:57 BGrael wrote: So why not have a BO1 buy in tourney? This would make it possible for lesser skilled people to actually win something, and increase the probability of these people participating. I think BO1 would make this much more a "try my luck" thing, and I think it could indeed increase the number of participants. Skilled players would still have a higher chance of winning, but more people would feel that they are able to compete. What do you think? I like that idea. Sure, it might invite more cheese, but having a tournament where the chance of winning was higher for everyone is a good idea. Personally I'd put some sort of skill cap (i.e. no player ranked in the top 200 of the server etc) - again, for the purpose of giving other players hope. (Unless players just used new accounts.) | ||
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Kalingingsong
Canada633 Posts
any thoughts??? because i rather buy in with 1 dollar for the chance to win a bit of money than buy in with 20 dollars for the chance to win a lot more, but this may not be true for other people etc. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On December 17 2010 02:33 cristo1122 wrote: if you went off and did a tournament without their permission they would probly tell u to stop in order to maintain their intellectual property rights but they probly would not bother with the smaller tournaments with small prize pools. my point is that in most countrys they dont can tell you to stop because they dont have any intellecutal property or rights on your event. | ||
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red_hq
Canada450 Posts
On December 17 2010 03:03 Kalingingsong wrote: not sure if it's already been mentioned. But what about giving the players the option of how much they want to buy in with (eg 1, 5, 10, 20 dollars), and set the prize higher for those who contributed more etc. any thoughts??? because i rather buy in with 1 dollar for the chance to win a bit of money than buy in with 20 dollars for the chance to win a lot more, but this may not be true for other people etc. Because if one player buys in a $20 and all the rest buy in at $1 then I will loose so much money if the person who bought in at $20 finishes in first. I was thinking about doing this but it would be too complex and very risky. Also please guys keep this thread on track, I am asking for advice and interest in this, not whether or not blizzard will allow this, my tourney licence is pending so they will tell me whether or not they will let me, | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
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Nevy
Canada169 Posts
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sqwert
United States781 Posts
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RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
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MG`Odien
United States60 Posts
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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red_hq
Canada450 Posts
On December 17 2010 05:01 Nevy wrote: Same prizes for 3rd and 4th places? Expect cheesy 3rd place matches. That's assuming no bronze matches, If I were to do bronze matches I would definitely redistribute prizes accordingly. Thanks for reminding me I should probably do bronze matches if it is a buy in. I'll have to redraw prizes but w/e, makes it better for the participants. On December 17 2010 02:58 zDUST wrote: I like that idea. Sure, it might invite more cheese, but having a tournament where the chance of winning was higher for everyone is a good idea. Personally I'd put some sort of skill cap (i.e. no player ranked in the top 200 of the server etc) - again, for the purpose of giving other players hope. (Unless players just used new accounts.) If we do swiss or RR the swiss/group rounds will 100% be Bo1 because of this, I totally agree. MG`Odien: If you can get a license and get this up and running, I'll definitely be down to play. Khol: Please make a massive thread for when this goes through. I will be down to play everyday. RoyalCheese: i think this is pretty good idea...i think you could even follow the iphone style trend with .99$ and get alot of people to attend. Anyway good luck with this project, i hope it goes well Thanks for the support guys i will certainly tell EVERYONE when and if my licence goes through. | ||
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rS.Sinatra
Canada785 Posts
On December 16 2010 20:10 sixfour wrote: so it wasn't by some guy qualifying to the world series off the internet and making everyone think "wow, i could do that" then? Mistaking cause and effect can get you screwed later in life. The only reason that kid started playing in the first place was because there were other smaller tournaments where he could risk his money and test the waters and build up confidence to get to where he did. Not to mention the fact that the WSOP was actually not that hard to get to for him. You think that would have happened if the "world series of poker" was GSL with a grand prize of $84,000 where the only way you can even participate is to fly to a country where you can't speak the language? Or maybe you think that poker was big enough (since it was already online) that the GSL of poker was finally practical? WSOP use to be 100 people (or less). Only a few players dreamed that it would get beyond thousands of people. GSL already has well over hundreds of participants. Its only a matter of time (if the community lets this happen) for SC2 to be something "worth it". Right now I wouldn't throw my University degree away to play something I know I'm pretty decent at and good at if I spent the same amount of time I do to my studies. However, If I knew I could regularly make a living out of this game, I'd play the shit out of it (and so would alot of other people too). Sorry OP, off topic, but my point is, this should happen and I appreciate what OP is doing for the community. | ||
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cristo1122
Australia505 Posts
On December 17 2010 03:15 skeldark wrote: my point is that in most countrys they dont can tell you to stop because they dont have any intellecutal property or rights on your event. but they have intellectual property rights on the actual game and if u hold a tournament without their permission u technically have infringed on their intellectual property rights (most likely under the fair use clause). Furthermore due to the WTO intellectual property rights are enforced equally throughout the world (excepting some of the poorer regions of the world though in this case it is a null issue as it is unlikely there would be a large tournment in africa due to a number of economic and social reasons) | ||
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shtdisturbance
Canada613 Posts
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red_hq
Canada450 Posts
Greetings, Thank you for submitting your tournament license request. We are in the process of reviewing your request and require more information about the participation fee. Please answer the following questions at your earliest convenience to move forward with the licensing process. What is your tournament name and date? How much fee will be charged for the participation? How many people will be participating? What is the total prize pool (in USD)? Will the participation fee be used for the prize? If not, What will the fee be used for? Any further information on the participation fee? Regards, Blizzard eSports Team | ||
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Liquid_Adun
Canada205 Posts
Good news everyone we got something back from Blizzard! Wow i didn't think they would get back so fast: Greetings, Thank you for submitting your tournament license request. We are in the process of reviewing your request and require more information about the participation fee. Please answer the following questions at your earliest convenience to move forward with the licensing process. What is your tournament name and date? How much fee will be charged for the participation? How many people will be participating? What is the total prize pool (in USD)? Will the participation fee be used for the prize? If not, What will the fee be used for? Any further information on the participation fee? Regards, Blizzard eSports Team This is horrid that you need to contact blizzard every time you want to have a tourney. Lets do up some lan/private servers. Sigh, why did blizzard take lan away from the boys. | ||
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