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Disintegrate
Profile Joined April 2009
United States182 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 07:52:34
August 23 2009 07:35 GMT
#1
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.

Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.

This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.

Leveling from 80-85 should be a much bigger deal, the idea is to make sure that gaining a level really means something and doesn't make you feel like you just have 4 more levels to go.

New Classes
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.

  • Human Hunter
  • Orc Mage
  • Night Elf Mage
  • Dwarf Mage
  • Blood Elf Warrior
  • Dwarf Shaman
  • Undead Hunter
  • Tauren Paladin
  • Tauren Priest
  • Gnome Priest
  • Troll Druid



New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.

Goblins
Deathwing once again sought the services of the goblins, as slaves. Unable to refuse such an offer, the goblins were enslaved by him. A large group have resisted however. With their previous homes devastated by the cataclysm, they escaping to an island off the coast of The Barrens. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.

Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen curse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds even when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.

Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.

Worgens will have two forms, a Worgen form and a Human form. Players will be able to customise the look of both forms.

New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.

Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,

  • The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
  • Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
  • Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded.
  • Durotar is wrecked and apparently
  • Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
  • Gnomeregan will be part of the expansion as well and gnomes might be able to reclaim their capital. (The last part is still unconfirmed)
  • Wailing Caverns will be become a lush tropical area as a result of the druid's magic.
  • The Blackrock Spire will erupt and a new version of Blackrock Mountains will be available, apparently Ragnaros will be back too.


In the aftermath of the cataclysm, and the new conflicts on the horizon relief efforts can be found in many zones and new open PvP areas similar to Lake Wintergrasp.

Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.

Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.

Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,

  • Hyjal (present)
  • Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
  • Uldum


It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclyms with the revelation of the goblins' plight, but several new islands have also been risen from the seas by the events of Cataclysm, some on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales, with the addition of several underwater zones.

Characters and Events

Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?

Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?

The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?

The Guardian of Tirisfal
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.

The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn .

Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=92919.0
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 09:05:12
August 23 2009 09:00 GMT
#2
I think this whole 'end boss thing' is Deathwing afaik. He was last sighted in Western Kalimdor where most of the destruction is happening.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
August 23 2009 09:01 GMT
#3
As much as some of it is silly (Gnome Priests, Tauren Paladins), I have to admit as someone who really did enjoy the original game, but not so much BC/WOTLK, I do like the idea of going back to Azeroth and having content there again.

I'm not sure if I'll play again (haven't really played properly since pre-BC), but I'll give it a bit of a go most likely.
Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 09:04:08
August 23 2009 09:02 GMT
#4
...They're not even trying with the lore anymore.

For starters, Thrall would never leave an untested Hellscream at the helm of the horde; he was super moderate in his rule - he would've chosen Cairne way before Hellscream


Second, The Guardian was a birth right not a creation. /sad

On a side note, I do love Azeroth and I do commend them for going back, but it is still a little too late I think for me.
Did the whole world just get a lot smaller and go whooosh?_-` Number 0ne By.Fantasy Fanatic!
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
August 23 2009 09:03 GMT
#5
thats alot of crazy shit
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3977 Posts
August 23 2009 09:47 GMT
#6
Hmmm I kinda like the way they're revamping Azeroth. But on the other hand, it feels kind of simple/cheap as well, just new race classes (which are stupid, race practically doesn't matter after level 10) and a couple new dungeons.

So another 2 expansions after this to go to level 100?
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 23 2009 09:51 GMT
#7
Wow another expansion?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 10:27:23
August 23 2009 10:25 GMT
#8
I really really like what they're doing by going back to azeroth.

But with FF14 apparently being an MMO, I'll be playing that over wow in all likelihood (unless this comes out a lot sooner than I think it will

The race class updates are much needed. I remember my gf wanting to play a horde druid, saw the the tauren chick looked like and deleting the character at level 10 to reroll. It definitely makes a difference.
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
August 23 2009 10:44 GMT
#9
On August 23 2009 18:02 Railz wrote:
Second, The Guardian was a birth right not a creation. /sad


This is not true actually, the guardians were always selected by the Council of Tirisfal, which consists of 7 archmages. They empowered a single champion (thereby loosing some of their own power as long as that champion lived) who would become the main force in battling back the burning legion. The gaurdian often lived for hundreds of years.

Only Aegwynn didn't agree with this process and decided to make Medivh, her son, the next guardian so she transferred her powers to him, not realizing she also transferred Sargeras' spirit to him, with all the following well known consequences.

That said, I won't be going back to WoW ever again, but all the idea's so far make this sound like a pretty good expansion.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51441 Posts
August 23 2009 11:17 GMT
#10
Meh, Aion is my MMO for the future.
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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
August 23 2009 11:35 GMT
#11
Although I don't play wow anymore, I would totally play wow again just so I can play goblins lol.

btw: There was always a 15 month time period between each expansion... So yeah this is kinda far off
dats racist
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2662 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 11:41:29
August 23 2009 11:41 GMT
#12
On August 23 2009 18:47 aseq wrote:
just new race classes (which are stupid, race practically doesn't matter after level 10)


Althought I agree that worgen and goblins are strange choices (chosen so that horde have a small race and alliance have a tauren-like race) I do disagree that race doesn't matter. If you ever play arenas quite often, you'll notice how big the racial skills can be. People re-roll whole characters for specific racials.

I quit WoW after Burning Crusade which was a really easy choice for me. I played a bit before TBC came out, I played all of TBC, then quit on the day Wrath was released. I quit because it wasn't so fun and that wrath didn't seem so interesting for me. However, cataclysm does look cool, and I may come back to play this. We'll see.
Liquipedia"I was seriously looking for a black guy" - MrHoon
Pawsom
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States928 Posts
August 23 2009 12:39 GMT
#13
I really forsee them removing racials for arena anyways. Right now Undead RMP's and human warriors(and all strength based class really) are significantly more powerful due to their racials alone. Otherwise we're gonna start seeing some ridiculous things. Goblin racials are really strong, a blink or direct damage racial is really insane.

Raiding will be raiding, for me, i've never really cared about lore or anything, so I'll play for the challenge of the encounter, which doesn't matter much if they're re-using boss skins since I'm sure the fights will be different.


lol + Show Spoiler +
troll druid
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 23 2009 12:54 GMT
#14
In the wake of Blizzcon and being reminded what the average player looks like I can't even entertain the notion of playing WoW at the moment.

But going back to Azeroth is the best thing they could have done. Most people have no real attachment to these new areas. Maybe in a year I'll be interested, especially if its some standalone package that gives you all the expansions or something.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
August 23 2009 14:23 GMT
#15
Two things I wanted from the original WoW:

Gnome healers
Play as Goblins

Screw Blizzard, I'm not going to start playing just because they finally added them. Though its cool that they are entirely redoing all of the world and allowing flying mounts and such.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 23 2009 15:31 GMT
#16
On August 23 2009 21:54 floor exercise wrote:
In the wake of Blizzcon and being reminded what the average player looks like I can't even entertain the notion of playing WoW at the moment.

But going back to Azeroth is the best thing they could have done. Most people have no real attachment to these new areas. Maybe in a year I'll be interested, especially if its some standalone package that gives you all the expansions or something.


You are using Blizzcon... technically the place where the fanatics go as an "average" for how WoW gamers look like.

I mean personally i was in uh a top 10 world guild for awhile and the people in that group weren't a bunch of fat nerds.

Either way this expansion made me twitch a few times about perhaps maybe reopening my account... but I still think I'll lay off of it.
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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
August 23 2009 16:18 GMT
#17
a troll fucking druid? A TROLL FUCKING DRUID?!
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
August 23 2009 16:26 GMT
#18
The only way I'd ever go back to WoW is if they released Gnome Druids.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 23 2009 16:54 GMT
#19
On August 23 2009 21:39 Pawsom wrote:
i've never really cared about lore or anything,

Neither does Blizzard!

BTW, Azshara's not in this expansion.
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 23 2009 17:08 GMT
#20
On August 24 2009 01:18 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
a troll fucking druid? A TROLL FUCKING DRUID?!


see: Jek'lik, Venoxis, Mar'li, Thekal, Arlokk, Akil'zon, Nalorakk, Jan'alai, Halazzi, Slad'ran, Moorabi and Gal'darah. Troll Druids are one of the ones with the firmest backing, thought it's quite likely the Cenarion Circle would have nothing to do with them (unless there's a co-existant method for shapeshifting trolls).

The only ones that stick out to me are Human Hunters and the admitted lolore Goblin/Worgen Death Knights.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
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