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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 17:44:47
August 23 2009 17:44 GMT
#21
Troll priest != druid

They're totally different, it's not just being able to change forms. Everyone with power is able to do that.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
August 23 2009 17:52 GMT
#22
Troll druids are okay, and I suppose so are human hunters and belf hunters.

Maybe I could even go with orc mages, dwarf shamans but undead hunters? How is a zombie going to get attached to any living thing ? And taurent priest and paladins ? What the fuck, Blizzard, things totally got out of hand here.

Before wow was first out, the warcraft lore was my favorite of all the fantasy universes I've ever seen. I've played the war 3/frozen throne campain sooo many times just because of the amazing lore. And that got totally ruined when wow got out because players don't need to actively interact with the lore, there's no need to get interested in the quests or the universe, just grinding is enough.

Through Cataclysm Blizzard just took a dump on the lore I've been so fond of. Ima sad panda
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
August 23 2009 18:23 GMT
#23
On August 24 2009 01:18 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
a troll fucking druid? A TROLL FUCKING DRUID?!


Well look at ZA and ZG, trolls CAN shapeshift .. >_>
^-^
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
August 23 2009 18:32 GMT
#24
@Jibba - Generally only the druidic races of WoW could shift forms to the extent the ZG/ZA/Gundrak trolls do. I'm interested to see the story behind it, but it absolutely feels plausible.

@FirstBorn - Two of Azeroth's greatest rangers are now Forsaken, Lady Sylvanas and Nathanos Blightcaller. Human hunters are a similar stretch, except they lack any sort of significant lore figures to train them.

Tauren Priests/Paladins are controversial, but are actually firmly backed by pre-existing lore - Elune is the Night Elves' name for one of two major deities in Tauren mythology, and the Cenarion Circle exists because of the link. There's a corresponding 'sun god' which isn't brought up much in-game outside of NPC dialogue.

</nerd>
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Clow
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Brazil880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 18:40:42
August 23 2009 18:39 GMT
#25
I think this will be the best expansion ever11!!!!

I'm actually really excited for all this. WotLK was boring as fuck.

Oh and I don't give a fuck about the 'lore thingy'. It's their game, they to what they want.
(–_–) CJ Entusman #33
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 19:05:30
August 23 2009 19:04 GMT
#26
On August 24 2009 03:32 Niton wrote:
@Jibba - Generally only the druidic races of WoW could shift forms to the extent the ZG/ZA/Gundrak trolls do. I'm interested to see the story behind it, but it absolutely feels plausible.

@FirstBorn - Two of Azeroth's greatest rangers are now Forsaken, Lady Sylvanas and Nathanos Blightcaller. Human hunters are a similar stretch, except they lack any sort of significant lore figures to train them.

Tauren Priests/Paladins are controversial, but are actually firmly backed by pre-existing lore - Elune is the Night Elves' name for one of two major deities in Tauren mythology, and the Cenarion Circle exists because of the link. There's a corresponding 'sun god' which isn't brought up much in-game outside of NPC dialogue.

</nerd>

Nathanos was a (THE) human ranger, although it simply makes no sense that humans didn't have hunters before him.

Disagree, druids are not simply about shapeshifting. They've become that in WoW, but there were druids who didn't shapeshift, and they shouldn't be defined like that. Plus there's different means to do it. Troll priests use juju or whatever.

I mean, they can make up whatever lore so that trolls learn how to become druids, but I don't think troll magic users set a precedent for them becoming druids. The two aren't related.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
August 23 2009 19:15 GMT
#27
The only way Blizzard can have me back as a customer is if they introduce gnome druids.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 23 2009 19:25 GMT
#28
Btw the Zul'xxxx bosses are rather priests than druids. High Priest Thekal etc.
ggaemo fan
SChasu
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1505 Posts
August 23 2009 20:09 GMT
#29
if i still played wow. i would be HELL YEAHing

gnome priest?
full groups of gnomes are possible now.
gnome priest ftw
totalbiscuit is awful at casting.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-23 20:14:35
August 23 2009 20:12 GMT
#30
I like others, agree that going back to Azeroth would be sweet but it looks like they are just fucking the game and the lore hard with this one =\ Anyone know when this is going to come out?
Never Knows Best.
Xela
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada203 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-24 00:17:33
August 24 2009 00:16 GMT
#31
I think WoW has officially reach the point(or it already happenned lol) where Blizzard are just trying to milk as much money as possible from the game before it eventually dies. Every expansion is shittier than the last one. BC had a whole new zone, 10 more levels, flying mounts etc. It was huge. Now you get 5 levels, new races/class combinations and 2 instances...and they throw the entire lore by the window LOL.
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
August 25 2009 17:59 GMT
#32
worgen sounds cool. to be able to transform into lycan .
moshi moshi~
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
August 25 2009 18:18 GMT
#33
I guess I'll dust off my old account when Cataclysm comes and hit the new level cap with my main, also test both new races and play through new areas with either of them, just to see how much things have changed.

And then lay the account back to rest, since I'm not too interested in most of endgame stuff or arena etc.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
August 25 2009 18:22 GMT
#34
I think this expansion is was the others should have been.... If the Azeroth finally changes due to the effect of the quests it would be awesome (barrens no longer.. barren... and so on).
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 25 2009 19:12 GMT
#35
heh Ill kinda miss the ole barrens tho
Never Knows Best.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
August 25 2009 19:19 GMT
#36
Enjoy leveling up and re-gearing again. Lets see... how many tiers are there now? 8? Plus the third expansion.... soooooo:

1) leveling to max level 4 times, check
2) Gearing up 8 times + 3 expansions = around 11 times, check
3) Reusing all the same old content with new skins, check.

I am really glad I dont play WoW anymore. I cant believe people are excited about this expansion, but then again I got sick of grinding nonstop just to be equal to what I was before a long time ago. A lot of people are still into having to re-climb the tier ladder over and over.
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 25 2009 22:43 GMT
#37
Im excited about it because I always liked to explore azeroth, and it kinda sucked that it was basically obsolete with the expansions. Plus there are going to be major changes to the landscape so it would be cool to see how things have changed.
Never Knows Best.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 25 2009 22:59 GMT
#38
On August 26 2009 04:19 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Enjoy leveling up and re-gearing again. Lets see... how many tiers are there now? 8? Plus the third expansion.... soooooo:

1) leveling to max level 4 times, check
2) Gearing up 8 times + 3 expansions = around 11 times, check
3) Reusing all the same old content with new skins, check.

I am really glad I dont play WoW anymore. I cant believe people are excited about this expansion, but then again I got sick of grinding nonstop just to be equal to what I was before a long time ago. A lot of people are still into having to re-climb the tier ladder over and over.


it's at t9 now with 3.2. but once you hit 80 you can get t8 stuff with 5 mans. so it's basically level to the max level, do 5 mans to get highest tier minus one, then raid to get highest tier.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
starflash
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
190 Posts
August 25 2009 23:12 GMT
#39
how long in days does it take a nub loner to reach 70/80?
genwar
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada537 Posts
August 25 2009 23:15 GMT
#40
Actual in game time my best was like 78 hours to get to 70, this was before the huge zone revamps and xp increases done in BC.

I don't see why people see having to level up and re-gear again a problem. What the hell do you want from an MMO? Would you rather sit at lvl 80 with the same skills and gear for eternity?
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