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On March 23 2012 22:01 AimlessAmoeba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2012 13:07 Broodwurst wrote:On March 23 2012 11:42 musai wrote:On March 22 2012 07:16 kafkaesque wrote:
Just canceled my brother's account again and I have come to one inescapable conclusion:
For me, WoW in it's current state is extremely dull.
In Cataclysm I only bought 2 months of gametime:
The first month being right at the start, nerding 2 days non stop to reach 85, then visit a couple heroics and try raids.
That was pretty decent; the new principles of healing and the much larger amount of HP made for a nice change after LK.
The second month having been the one that just expired.
I leveled a Druid from one to 85 in a couple of weeks, had neither guild nor contacts.
Two days after hitting 85, DS 10 was clear (non heroic, obviously).
The encounters are absolutely trivial.
Seriously, what's up with fights like Ultraxion, where you stand perfectly still for 4:30, only hitting a giant purple button and taunt every once in a while?
hmmm calling WoW while only doing normal modes, hmmmm Name one interesting encounter in DS, hmmmm. In Heroic, most of the encounters are pretty interesting and difficult, but I assume you're probably talking about Normal Mode, in which I kind of agree. The Zon'Ozz encounter was neat though, in which you have two groups bounce a ball back and forth ala ping pong charging it up and then hitting the boss with it was cool (and if you missed, of course, you wiped, so there's that) Also the Hagara mechanics were kind of neat as well, although the coordination required for her on heroic makes it even cooler. What about spine? Flying around on the back of the final boss of the expansion ripping pieces off his back? Not cool? I think it's a cool encounter although it feels weird as a mage to literally hold back on DPS for as long as you have to in that fight. It took our guild the longest to learn that one I believe. I'm not an oldschool Vanilla or even BC raider so I know the kind of rose glasses people from those days tend to wear but I have to admit I really had a great time in Cata. Even all the FL hate I don't get, I thought that place was great!
People thought FL was over tuned, and they nerfed it really early.
which was kinda stupid imo. after starting late and getting into heroics they basically gave you free gear in fl, which is what made me quit the game when i did.
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On March 24 2012 03:57 Thorakh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 03:41 absalom86 wrote:On March 24 2012 02:08 Thorakh wrote:On March 23 2012 22:36 deth2munkies wrote:
The reason why nobody really cares about heroics is because by the time you get to them, you've already fought the bosses (multiple times), you already know the stories behind them, all the little epic things that make the encounter fun, etc. You're normally just left with a boss that has a couple of extra abilities that make the fight more difficult but not more epic.
And what's your payoff? Slightly better recolored gear. Yeah, it's not worth it. Exactly. "lols but u has not done HEROIC mode" doesn't cut it as a counterargument against the notion that WoW is too easy. I shouldn't need to find a good raiding guild in order to have at least some semblance of a challenge. Heroic raids are a very little part of WoW, the other 95% of the game is pisseasy. Blizz IS adding challenge mode dungeons in MOP. Basically you can only do them in standardized gear, so no overgearing, and get a medal of either bronze, silver or gold based on your performance. I don't want freaking challenge modes. Challenge modes are still the same, easy dungeons, you just do them in shitty gear. I want fights to be hard because the mechanics are hard, not because I am in greens.
Well, theres extra mechanics in them as well so you should maybe read up on them before judging.
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On March 24 2012 02:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
I quit WoW this year. It was pretty sad, since I've played the game from launch. 7 years of WoW. I enjoyed the game all the way through and enjoyed playing with the people I've met. In fact, I probably would still enjoy playing the game now.
But Blizzard legalized gold selling last year with the guardian cub, and I quit the moment I heard about it. I'm not going to support what was once a fair game that now legalizes gold buying so that Blizzard can now profit off of it.
There isn't a single MMO currently out or coming out that doesn't have microtransactions or legalized gold selling that I know of. If there is, I'd like to hear it. But for now, since I quit WoW, I haven't really played any games. Although I've still been keeping up-to-date with news and forums.
you must be kidding.. that pet doesnt make you any gold. maybe in the first few days but now? lol.. if you spend real money on it in order to sell it for gold, you waste your money. check any server. there are only a handful of those pets in the AH for ridiculous prices and noone buys them. you sound like you'd get infinite amounts of gold if you buy and sell those pets. thats just not the case. if that really made you quite the game, its the worst possible reason
in fact, i even think blizzard introduced this pet to fight the gold sellers. its a different approach, like the D3 real money AH. ppl will buy gold anyway, so its better if they buy it from blizzard (through this pet) than from the hackers. maybe they wanted to test, how much they can reduce the amount of gold buying by implementing such a tradeable pet
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Hey everyone,
If you're interested in playing together, me and some friends are creating a guild and starting from level 1 on Sunday/Monday. We'll be playing on Lightning's Blade-US server, Horde side.We have a mumble to hang out and chat on as well. If you're interested feel free to send me a PM and I can set you up with the info. The more the marrier.
Also, if anyone else needs scroll of ressurections (regardless if you want to play with us or not) just shoot me a PM.
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Is there any Teamliquid guild?
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On March 24 2012 07:59 Advocado wrote:
Is there any Teamliquid guild?
There was on Ner'Zhul but I dont know what happened to it.
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On March 24 2012 08:07 arb wrote:There was on Ner'Zhul but I dont know what happened to it.
I tried for a month and a half to join, the leaders were never on. That was over 6 months ago.
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On March 24 2012 08:39 deth2munkies wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 08:07 arb wrote:On March 24 2012 07:59 Advocado wrote:
Is there any Teamliquid guild? There was on Ner'Zhul but I dont know what happened to it. I tried for a month and a half to join, the leaders were never on. That was over 6 months ago.
It was a bunch of low post count relatively new users leading it iirc, wouldn't have surprised me if it just died out.
Last I saw they had finally downed nefarian or something, then were moving on to heroics.
Never heard anything after that
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On March 24 2012 08:41 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 08:39 deth2munkies wrote:On March 24 2012 08:07 arb wrote:On March 24 2012 07:59 Advocado wrote:
Is there any Teamliquid guild? There was on Ner'Zhul but I dont know what happened to it. I tried for a month and a half to join, the leaders were never on. That was over 6 months ago. It was a bunch of low post count relatively new users leading it iirc, wouldn't have surprised me if it just died out. Last I saw they had finally downed nefarian or something, then were moving on to heroics. Never heard anything after that
I lead the European Team Liquid guild for a few months. After I quit it quickly died off as far as I know, and one of the officers robbed the guild bank on his way out.
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On March 24 2012 04:43 Enox wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 02:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
I quit WoW this year. It was pretty sad, since I've played the game from launch. 7 years of WoW. I enjoyed the game all the way through and enjoyed playing with the people I've met. In fact, I probably would still enjoy playing the game now.
But Blizzard legalized gold selling last year with the guardian cub, and I quit the moment I heard about it. I'm not going to support what was once a fair game that now legalizes gold buying so that Blizzard can now profit off of it.
There isn't a single MMO currently out or coming out that doesn't have microtransactions or legalized gold selling that I know of. If there is, I'd like to hear it. But for now, since I quit WoW, I haven't really played any games. Although I've still been keeping up-to-date with news and forums. you must be kidding.. that pet doesnt make you any gold. maybe in the first few days but now? lol.. if you spend real money on it in order to sell it for gold, you waste your money. check any server. there are only a handful of those pets in the AH for ridiculous prices and noone buys them. you sound like you'd get infinite amounts of gold if you buy and sell those pets. thats just not the case. if that really made you quite the game, its the worst possible reason in fact, i even think blizzard introduced this pet to fight the gold sellers. its a different approach, like the D3 real money AH. ppl will buy gold anyway, so its better if they buy it from blizzard (through this pet) than from the hackers. maybe they wanted to test, how much they can reduce the amount of gold buying by implementing such a tradeable pet
The fact that it can be sold for more than 1 copper was enough.
In fact, it sells for about 5k gold, more than I predicted. I thought it would only sell around 1k because everyone was going to do it.
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On March 24 2012 03:13 Thorakh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 02:32 paralleluniverse wrote:On March 24 2012 02:08 Thorakh wrote:On March 23 2012 22:36 deth2munkies wrote:
The reason why nobody really cares about heroics is because by the time you get to them, you've already fought the bosses (multiple times), you already know the stories behind them, all the little epic things that make the encounter fun, etc. You're normally just left with a boss that has a couple of extra abilities that make the fight more difficult but not more epic.
And what's your payoff? Slightly better recolored gear. Yeah, it's not worth it. Exactly. "lols but u has not done HEROIC mode" doesn't cut it as a counterargument against the notion that WoW is too easy. I shouldn't need to find a good raiding guild in order to have at least some semblance of a challenge. Heroic raids are a very little part of WoW, the other 95% of the game is pisseasy. The hardest part of the game has always been the raid content, particularly heroic raids. Are you trying to say that there should be harder 5 man or solo content so you can get a challenge without a guild? If so, then that seems to be asking for the 5 man heroics at Cata launch, which was too hard for many people that millions quit. I don't think having heroics set that hard was a bad design decision, but it was a bad business decision. Also note that there is a limit to how hard 5 man or solo content can be before it is only completable using particular class stacking. It's not good game design to have the entire game be pisseasy until you hit heroic raids. And please, the heroics at the start of Cata were pisseasy as well, they just took too long to complete. Blizzard only caters to two groups of people, you're either in bleeding edge content or you're doing drooling monkey mode (yes, this includes normal raids). The thing that was so great about TBC was that it had content for everyone.
TBC didn't really have content for you if you're not a raider. If you were a mediocre raider, you were stuck running Kara from launch to the end of the expansion.
And there was a lot of poaching of geared raiders by the top guilds since people were playing on multiple tiers.
As with TBC, you can get in a 10 man, and find a gradual incline in difficulty from normals to easy heroics to hard heroics.
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Hi, how active is this guild? I would really like to restart WoW after my finals. I haven't played since wotlk, and I've never finished ICC entirely. Also, how good/bad is cataclysm right now? I've heard some pretty sad stuff about it in comments here or elsewhere. If I was to restart, I would really like to be in a guild already so I can chat/fool around while playing/leveling/raiding. I'm not looking for hardcore stuff though. :D
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On March 24 2012 03:57 Thorakh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 03:41 absalom86 wrote:On March 24 2012 02:08 Thorakh wrote:On March 23 2012 22:36 deth2munkies wrote:
The reason why nobody really cares about heroics is because by the time you get to them, you've already fought the bosses (multiple times), you already know the stories behind them, all the little epic things that make the encounter fun, etc. You're normally just left with a boss that has a couple of extra abilities that make the fight more difficult but not more epic.
And what's your payoff? Slightly better recolored gear. Yeah, it's not worth it. Exactly. "lols but u has not done HEROIC mode" doesn't cut it as a counterargument against the notion that WoW is too easy. I shouldn't need to find a good raiding guild in order to have at least some semblance of a challenge. Heroic raids are a very little part of WoW, the other 95% of the game is pisseasy. Blizz IS adding challenge mode dungeons in MOP. Basically you can only do them in standardized gear, so no overgearing, and get a medal of either bronze, silver or gold based on your performance. I don't want freaking challenge modes. Challenge modes are still the same, easy dungeons, you just do them in shitty gear. I want fights to be hard because the mechanics are hard, not because I am in greens.
So basically, they're applying the scoring like the ones they use on angry birds with 1,2 or 3 stars based on how you did the leve. LOL
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Hey guys, I played WoW beta and WoW again for a few months, hit level 40 as a warlock but just got tired of the endless hours of grinding. Has WoW changed this aspect of the game or is it still basically a grind fest throughout?
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On May 10 2012 08:50 thalim90 wrote:
Hey guys, I played WoW beta and WoW again for a few months, hit level 40 as a warlock but just got tired of the endless hours of grinding. Has WoW changed this aspect of the game or is it still basically a grind fest throughout?
Yes. Still a grindfest.
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So WoW has maintained its subscriber no. at 10.2 mil. Good news, maybe it will increase at the start of the next exp.
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On May 10 2012 08:54 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 08:50 thalim90 wrote:
Hey guys, I played WoW beta and WoW again for a few months, hit level 40 as a warlock but just got tired of the endless hours of grinding. Has WoW changed this aspect of the game or is it still basically a grind fest throughout? Yes. Still a grindfest.
No, it's not a grindfest anymore- compared to the wow beta and early vanilla, this game is SO far from a grindfest
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On May 10 2012 16:45 spacek wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 08:54 Praetorial wrote:On May 10 2012 08:50 thalim90 wrote:
Hey guys, I played WoW beta and WoW again for a few months, hit level 40 as a warlock but just got tired of the endless hours of grinding. Has WoW changed this aspect of the game or is it still basically a grind fest throughout? Yes. Still a grindfest. No, it's not a grindfest anymore- compared to the wow beta and early vanilla, this game is SO far from a grindfest
Maybe comparatively it's less of a grindfest. But yes, it definitely is a big grindfest. You grind heroic dungeons for gear so you can raid, and you raid over and over again to get better gear so you can do more raids.
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On May 10 2012 19:39 EscPlan9 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 16:45 spacek wrote:On May 10 2012 08:54 Praetorial wrote:On May 10 2012 08:50 thalim90 wrote:
Hey guys, I played WoW beta and WoW again for a few months, hit level 40 as a warlock but just got tired of the endless hours of grinding. Has WoW changed this aspect of the game or is it still basically a grind fest throughout? Yes. Still a grindfest. No, it's not a grindfest anymore- compared to the wow beta and early vanilla, this game is SO far from a grindfest Maybe comparatively it's less of a grindfest. But yes, it definitely is a big grindfest. You grind heroic dungeons for gear so you can raid, and you raid over and over again to get better gear so you can do more raids.
I suppose conceptually its a "grind" still but its on such a different level it doesnt even count. (PS what mmo isnt conceptually a grind) You can literally level 1-85 in significantly less time than it used to take to level 1-60. (way less) and get a full set of raid-ready gear in about the playtime that it averaged to get one piece in vanilla. (largely because for new players not in established guilds getting groups was VERY hard and now you just hit lfg and autogroup lol.)
Unfortunately I played WoW very seriously for a very long time and from TBC on 95% of why I played was for arena with friends. Pretty much it. Unfortunately it sucks now, but I was bored and reupped account to level random other char with my bro and play some and you can get competitive level pvp gear full set in less than a week easy. (Disclaimer: Arena is complete shit still, cant take it serious or anything. But its pretty much all I do with my brother since we live 250 miles apart.)
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