EPTdont turtle vs zerg
PvZ InControl Coaching Session - Page 5
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gr8ape
Canada302 Posts
dont turtle vs zerg | ||
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YiukeDukem
United States125 Posts
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
hope u do the same for ur other sessions | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
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CCalms
United States341 Posts
Btw, I started cracking up when I heard incontrol's hulkish arms typing at a paramount decibel, lol. He sounds exactly like Philip Seymour Hoffman. | ||
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Khaladas
United States223 Posts
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BBC.807
Norway68 Posts
What was your progression Khaladas? | ||
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Joedaddy
United States1948 Posts
On January 10 2011 07:28 BBC.807 wrote: What was your progression Khaladas? I am very curious how you have progressed in your PvZ since the coaching session. Have you seen significant improvements? Was the coaching session worth the money in your opinion? Also, thanks so much to you and Incontrol both for sharing and allowing the vod's to be shared. Its so awesome being able to hear the thought process of a pro. | ||
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xDAYMANx
United States29 Posts
by having this gameplan you are constantly focused. i have hugely payed more attention to chronoboost. Also, my APM has gone up by an average of 20. I also had no idea sentries (force field) were that amazing early game. I am more comfortable with expansion timings and most specifically using the robo. i tend to play more twilight templar specific builds, but now i am learning the power of the robo and how to use it correctly. great in all match ups. i just really thought this was a great coaching lesson and wanted to thank Khaladas and inControl. | ||
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Khaladas
United States223 Posts
On January 10 2011 07:28 BBC.807 wrote: How much does he charge? Where can i pay? i want to improve from 2400 til 3000 diamond:-) What was your progression Khaladas? www.gosucoaching.net you can set up a time with him there. http://www.gosucoaching.com/ There are a lot of other coaches there that I have heard great things about, many are current pros on the scene. Ask him about pricing, I know the prices change occasionally and he does multi-session discounts, so just ask him. A lot of the tips he gave me on my game carry over to all matchups, but in particular I have been using this build quite a bit and it's extremely stable. In the 100 ladder matches prior to this lesson, my overall win rate was 45%, roughly around the same for all matchups. My zerg win rate had been as low as 35% at one point. 15 ladder matches since this lesson, win % is at 53% with a 57% win rate vs Zerg Progression wise, I'm pretty confident this session is going to set me on my way to breaking into diamond a lot faster than I would have been able to do on my own. | ||
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3nvy
New Zealand24 Posts
This video is likely to convince me to buy some time with InControl :D | ||
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Khaladas
United States223 Posts
On January 10 2011 09:29 3nvy wrote: Hey Khaladas - Any chance of getting this stream mirrored elsewhere? For whatever reason, my stream stops streaming at 56 seconds (even if I skip forward past this point, it wont stream >_<!). This video is likely to convince me to buy some time with InControl :D Well it was captured by LiveStream but I don't have a clue how to get it off that site and posted somewhere else. If anyone can help me do this, i'd be glad to put it up on youtube or just create a download link. | ||
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
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3nvy
New Zealand24 Posts
Could you try that? Quick Google search lead to VICTORY! Ty for your time, it's awesome the community does things like this. | ||
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
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snotboogie
Australia3550 Posts
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iChau
United States1210 Posts
On January 10 2011 21:16 b_unnies wrote: im pretty interested to know why incontrol chose to continue to produce zeals since doesnt that defeatt the whole purpose of splitting up his army with forcefields? Zealots do amazing damage when they're in the enemies' face so the forcefield is just for preventing kiting. It's a better idea to put it behind the enemies' army though, imo. | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
The 3 gate sentry-expand 4 gate pressure robo is imo the most solid build currently out there, allows for a good attack force to test the defense of greedy zergs and gets the observer quickly enough vs burrow. Awsome that incontrol allows these sessions to be shared, great advertisement, I'd think about purchasing one lesson myself, if I owned a mic  | ||
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
On January 11 2011 00:04 iChau wrote: Zealots do amazing damage when they're in the enemies' face so the forcefield is just for preventing kiting. It's a better idea to put it behind the enemies' army though, imo. forcefields against Zergs is to reduce dps, zergs kiting defeats the entire purpose of roaches/hydras because they want to be running into your army not running away. why would zergs want to kite stalks/colossus when both have superior range to roaches/hydras you're suppose to forcefield zerg's army to reduce its size, so majority of it won't be attacking you, and since colossus+stalkers have superior range all of the protoss ball can attack the zerg. zealots defeats the entire purpose of the forcefields since by default they're going into the range of roaches/hydras including the ones that are behind the forcefields | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On January 11 2011 02:08 b_unnies wrote: forcefields against Zergs is to reduce dps, zergs kiting defeats the entire purpose of roaches/hydras because they want to be running into your army not running away. why would zergs want to kite stalks/colossus when both have superior range to roaches/hydras you're suppose to forcefield zerg's army to reduce its size, so majority of it won't be attacking you, and since colossus+stalkers have superior range all of the protoss ball can attack the zerg. zealots defeats the entire purpose of the forcefields since by default they're going into the range of roaches/hydras including the ones that are behind the forcefields making zealots is good for handling lings when ff's aren't necessary OR when ff's block in their lings. Additionally I make zeals based on my gas. I am trying to conserve gas for collo/upgrades/stalkers etc.. but with 4 warpgates you will have more minerals than gas available as long as you are doing the build right so churning out zealots is a must to still grow your army but not impair the collo numbers | ||
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