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Khaladas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 21:44:52
January 06 2011 03:49 GMT
#1
I wanted to share with the community a coaching session I had with InControl today. It was a great session and I would highly recommend him as a coach. He is gracious enough to allow people to do this, so props to him.

http://livestre.am/yEJR

It's focused on my play vs zerg, hopefully it is helpful to you.

I also have the replays from the session if people are interested I can dig them out and post them somewhere as well.

Sorry for all the clicking noises during the replay, we were on skype and our mics were picking up everything apparently.

It's about 2 hours long so grab a snack and enjoy.

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time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a bananna
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
January 06 2011 03:52 GMT
#2
thanks for this man really good stuff!!
if play random i can't call any race imba?
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
January 06 2011 03:53 GMT
#3
awesome thanks for posting this. I saw a PvZ lesson he did before and I agree he is a great coach. Ofc thanks to iNcontrol, you the man
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
January 06 2011 03:59 GMT
#4
Sweet man. PvZ is BY FAR my worst MU. Thanks a ton
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
January 06 2011 05:43 GMT
#5
yeah PvZ is my worst MU as well...only efficient build I know is the Forge FE into 5 gate timing attack with +1 attacks

other than that, I need to figure out another way to beat Zerg
Khaladas
Profile Joined May 2010
United States223 Posts
January 06 2011 05:55 GMT
#6
Played a bunch of games afterward and I definitely felt more confident with the build he is proposing. I still need a lot more practice with it, but it is solid for sure. Doesn't rely on anything overly gimmicky or risky.

Now I need to do 2 more sessions so I can get my Protoss and Terran matchups squared away a bit better.
time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a bananna
N7Kevlar
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada9 Posts
January 06 2011 06:53 GMT
#7
Thanks for posting this VOD, even though I'm in bronze i still think i learned a lot :}

Are you going to upload those two sessions ?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 06 2011 07:00 GMT
#8
=/ I hate having vods on livestream I'll see if I can d/l it for my itouch so I can do it when I wouldn't be productive anyways.
riboflavin
Profile Joined April 2010
United States226 Posts
January 06 2011 07:03 GMT
#9
I am watching now to see what I can learn. Thanks for sharing!

Also, I hope that you got the 'okay' from InControl before posting this. Please don't take my comments too harshly or create a whole sub debate on what I am about to say(I am not trying to thread crap or anything), but he might view his coaching and the tips he shared with you his IP. Rebroadcasting that without his permission is, at minimum, BM.

He seems a cool enough guy and all, so I'm sure it wouldn't even be a a big deal to him. But that is all the more reason to check with him first if you hadn't already!
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 06 2011 07:04 GMT
#10
He has given a unilateral OK to post all his awesome epic lessons
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
January 06 2011 07:04 GMT
#11
Thanks for sharing! It is always helpful for any level of player or future coach to watch stuff like this to see how it goes. It is a learning tool for both ends!
Audi309
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
January 06 2011 07:11 GMT
#12
really helpful, thanks!
[HalcyoN]
Profile Joined May 2010
United States163 Posts
January 06 2011 07:22 GMT
#13
Thank you so much for posting these! iNcontroL is so awesome. I've learned quite a bit from watching VODs of him coaching.

If you see this KEEP UP THE AWESOMENESS!
"I'm already dead"
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 07:29:16
January 06 2011 07:28 GMT
#14
Watched a little over an hour or so. Learned a ton. That Incontrol guy is pretty smart

What amazed me was in the game Incontrol played I thought he was done after those lings killed a ton of his probes lol. At least for me I would've panicked and said the game was done for me if I was in that situation, but Inc ends up Rofl stomping the guy.

Also make sure to post your next sessions!
Zurachi
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada289 Posts
January 06 2011 07:28 GMT
#15
I'm a terran player and from watching/listening to this so far, I'm actually learning quite a bit! Definitely a lot of general points that help you lean towards more of a correct mindset.
@ZurachiTV | www.youtube.com/ZurachiTV | "Satisfaction is the beginning of regression."
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
January 06 2011 07:28 GMT
#16
On January 06 2011 16:03 riboflavin wrote:
I am watching now to see what I can learn. Thanks for sharing!

Also, I hope that you got the 'okay' from InControl before posting this. Please don't take my comments too harshly or create a whole sub debate on what I am about to say(I am not trying to thread crap or anything), but he might view his coaching and the tips he shared with you his IP. Rebroadcasting that without his permission is, at minimum, BM.

He seems a cool enough guy and all, so I'm sure it wouldn't even be a a big deal to him. But that is all the more reason to check with him first if you hadn't already!


Unless there was fine print before the lessons were done, I don't see why. If anything, it would be BM for the payer to not be allowed to rebroadcast it without a notice prior to paying. He did pay for it, after all.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 06 2011 07:39 GMT
#17
He bought the time.

Incontrol's coaching is great, watching now. Thanks for the post.
aquanda
Profile Joined January 2003
United States477 Posts
January 06 2011 07:39 GMT
#18
Khaladas: Sorry about my accidental leave during that first game, my nephew was being super obnoxious and I accidentally hit Surrender instead of Pause =(

I'm watching now just to see his commentary as I got stomped, should be interesting!
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 07:45:58
January 06 2011 07:45 GMT
#19
Nice coaching session, seems ubber useful xD
edit: Did u lose a pvz after that?
MuffinFTW
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States235 Posts
January 06 2011 07:51 GMT
#20
Awesome, love it when people share VODs of coaching from pros.
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