PvZ InControl Coaching Session - Page 3

On January 07 2011 07:55 Geovu wrote:
I have to say that it's funny to hear the mindless clicking and spamming in the beginning of the games

Really nice VOD btw, though honestly I'd still ask iNcontrol before posting this, I mean it IS a VOD of a paid lesson you're giving out for free. I'm sure a person like Idra would sue you or something if he realized you were putting up vods of his assloadexpensive coaching lessons. ;P
Even though iNcontrol seems like a pretty chill guy, second only to nony, imo it is common courtesy.

On January 06 2011 14:43 .kv wrote:
yeah PvZ is my worst MU as well...only efficient build I know is the Forge FE into 5 gate timing attack with +1 attacks

other than that, I need to figure out another way to beat Zerg

On January 06 2011 16:28 happyness wrote:
Watched a little over an hour or so. Learned a ton. That Incontrol guy is pretty smart

What amazed me was in the game Incontrol played I thought he was done after those lings killed a ton of his probes lol. At least for me I would've panicked and said the game was done for me if I was in that situation, but Inc ends up Rofl stomping the guy.

Also make sure to post your next sessions!

On January 07 2011 13:01 Swien wrote:
http://livestre.am/yEJR

is this really the link? it's broken for me (I use google chrome)

On January 07 2011 14:24 Fubsywubkis wrote:
Ok guys I decided to really analyze the 2nd half of the coaching, and I got the build order that iNcontroL is suggesting we use. It took a few go throughs, because there are times when he answers questions while distracted, and I actually believe he says something different than he actually does (an example is when he is asked "So you do nexus-->forge-->4th gateway?" and iNcontroL responds "yup" when in reality, he has been going nexus-->4th gateway-->forge the entire time).

Here's what I came up with:

p.s. For those unfamiliar with build order lists, every time supply goes up, but there is not a specific reason for it, like building a Zealot, it is to be increased through probe production

EGiNcontroL's 3-Gate FE (vs. Zerg) (based off of the coaching session provided in this thread)
9- Pylon (scout with this probe) (1)
13- Gateway (1)
15- Assimilator (1)
16- Pylon (2)
18- Cybernetics Core (1)
18- Zealot (1)
22- Assimilator (2)
23- Pylon (3)
24- WarpGate Technology
24- Sentry (1)
27- Gateway x2 (3)
28- Sentry (2)

From here, it seems to be a bit more open to what is happening. In my notebook, I have that he has the following 'checklist'

-8 Sentries (magical number)
-Once the 3 gates are done, make Nexus
-After Nexus starts, build 4th Gateway
-After Gateway starts, build Forge
-After Forge starts, put a pylon next to your 2nd Nexus
-Once Forge is done, place a cannon in between your 2nd Nexus and your ramp (for burrowed roaches and zergling run-bys)
-Once cannon begins, start +1 ATK upgrade**
-After starting +1 ATK, begin "Shark Mode"
-Once cannon finishes, build Robotics Bay (he builds it at the natural)
-After robotics starts, build 4th gas at natural

**Upgrade order**
+1 ATK
+1 Armor
-Twilight Council
+2 ATK
+3 ATK
+2 Armor
+3 Armor

Let me know if I missed anything!

On January 07 2011 22:31 SoftSoap wrote:


Yes, After nexus, put a pylon then a cannon hugging the nexus. Therefore it will pown the Burrowed Roaches.

On January 07 2011 23:00 Icebergue wrote:
I only watched around half of it and found it very insightful. I wished there was a compendium with some sort of this lessons to help new players like me who are Bronze and have little experience in RTS games.

On January 07 2011 18:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
glad you guys liked it And thanks to khaladas for sharing.. it is of course fine to do so

lots of great students taking time to share this stuff.. pretty cool

On January 07 2011 08:00 Moonloop wrote:


He did ask - iNc is fine with it. Khaladas says so on the second page.

And there's been a tonne of these vods of iNcontroL casting - he wouldn't suddenly take issue with it.