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If you spoil the results of the tournament, you will be banned.
Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
April 08 2011 18:06 GMT
#561
I just noticed this is replay casted, that makes me sad .
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 08 2011 18:13 GMT
#562
On April 09 2011 03:06 Luiwtf wrote:
I just noticed this is replay casted, that makes me sad .


You won't be sad when you see why. I'm reading through the production documentation and process at the moment and the amount of polish and work that's going to go into this may blow your mind.

I'm a firm believer in live-casting as well, but in this case, I think the pay-off will be worth it.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-08 18:20:43
April 08 2011 18:17 GMT
#563
There seem to be an extremely hateful and vocal minority here on TL that starts frothing as soon as TB (and pretty much anyone who is not Day9/Tastosis) is mentioned.

Face it, the guy is working his ass off to put up a good show and has been dramatically improving his knowledge of the game ever since he started casting. As far as I know he's got a good relationship with Day9 (I even recall Day9 speaking up about this in the past) and is an avid follower of the dailies. How the hell people could twist things to the point they seem to believe he harbor some kind of disrespect towards Day9 is beyond me.

While I'm not entitled to speak on the behalf of the community and state something along the lines of "the majority of the community is quite happy with the choice of casters" as if it was a fact, my impression is that they are.
Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
April 08 2011 18:19 GMT
#564
On April 09 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 03:06 Luiwtf wrote:
I just noticed this is replay casted, that makes me sad .


You won't be sad when you see why. I'm reading through the production documentation and process at the moment and the amount of polish and work that's going to go into this may blow your mind.

I'm a firm believer in live-casting as well, but in this case, I think the pay-off will be worth it.


Hopefully .

I won't not watch it because of the replay casting, I watch TSL after all, it just doesn't quite feel as epic for some reason .
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 08 2011 18:24 GMT
#565
On April 09 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 03:06 Luiwtf wrote:
I just noticed this is replay casted, that makes me sad .


You won't be sad when you see why. I'm reading through the production documentation and process at the moment and the amount of polish and work that's going to go into this may blow your mind.

I'm a firm believer in live-casting as well, but in this case, I think the pay-off will be worth it.


Where and how can you read this? So interested...
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
April 08 2011 18:25 GMT
#566
On April 09 2011 03:19 Luiwtf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 09 2011 03:06 Luiwtf wrote:
I just noticed this is replay casted, that makes me sad .


You won't be sad when you see why. I'm reading through the production documentation and process at the moment and the amount of polish and work that's going to go into this may blow your mind.

I'm a firm believer in live-casting as well, but in this case, I think the pay-off will be worth it.


Hopefully .

I won't not watch it because of the replay casting, I watch TSL after all, it just doesn't quite feel as epic for some reason .


I think the only advantage that live casting has is when you can actually see the players and their reactions. For example, in GSL/OSL/MSL/whatever, during a tense moment, they'll zoom in on a player's face and record their worried or intense expression. After a game, you can see players so crushed and disappointed or elated and crying.

Obviously that's not possible for IPL or NASL (at least not until the LAN finals) so we get replay casting. Replay casting does have one advantage that live casting does not, and that's that things like long pauses during a game can be circumvented because the viewer doesn't have to sit through the pause and listen to the commentators fill air until the problem is resolved.
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Luiwtf
Profile Joined January 2011
England217 Posts
April 08 2011 18:30 GMT
#567
On April 09 2011 03:24 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 09 2011 03:06 Luiwtf wrote:
I just noticed this is replay casted, that makes me sad .


You won't be sad when you see why. I'm reading through the production documentation and process at the moment and the amount of polish and work that's going to go into this may blow your mind.

I'm a firm believer in live-casting as well, but in this case, I think the pay-off will be worth it.


Where and how can you read this? So interested...

He's one of the casters, so will know how it's all being produced etc.
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
April 08 2011 18:31 GMT
#568
On April 09 2011 03:17 Nifel wrote:
There seem to be an extremely hateful and vocal minority here on TL that starts frothing as soon as TB (and pretty much anyone who is not Day9/Tastosis) is mentioned.

Face it, the guy is working his ass off to put up a good show and has been dramatically improving his knowledge of the game ever since he started casting. As far as I know he's got a good relationship with Day9 (I even recall Day9 speaking up about this in the past) and is an avid follower of the dailies. How the hell people could twist things to the point they seem to believe he harbor some kind of disrespect towards Day9 is beyond me.

While I'm not entitled to speak on the behalf of the community and state something along the lines of "the majority of the community is quite happy with the choice of casters" as if it was a fact, my impression is that they are.


Came here to see the exact same team.

Despite, having different styles, all of these casters are working hard and have a great love of the game. As long as the excitement and professionalism remain true, every caster should be treated with the respect they deserve. Trying to call for someone's head based on uneducated rants does little to add to the discussion.
rG
mpupu
Profile Joined June 2010
Argentina183 Posts
April 08 2011 18:33 GMT
#569
On April 09 2011 03:25 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 03:19 Luiwtf wrote:
On April 09 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 09 2011 03:06 Luiwtf wrote:
I just noticed this is replay casted, that makes me sad .


You won't be sad when you see why. I'm reading through the production documentation and process at the moment and the amount of polish and work that's going to go into this may blow your mind.

I'm a firm believer in live-casting as well, but in this case, I think the pay-off will be worth it.


Hopefully .

I won't not watch it because of the replay casting, I watch TSL after all, it just doesn't quite feel as epic for some reason .


I think the only advantage that live casting has is when you can actually see the players and their reactions. For example, in GSL/OSL/MSL/whatever, during a tense moment, they'll zoom in on a player's face and record their worried or intense expression. After a game, you can see players so crushed and disappointed or elated and crying.

Obviously that's not possible for IPL or NASL (at least not until the LAN finals) so we get replay casting. Replay casting does have one advantage that live casting does not, and that's that things like long pauses during a game can be circumvented because the viewer doesn't have to sit through the pause and listen to the commentators fill air until the problem is resolved.


You're missing a couple other advantages of live casting which are minor but not negligible:

* The psychological feeling of watching an event that is happening *right now* somewhere in the world. This benefit is obviously hard to quantify.
* Avoiding the (admittedly very small) risk of spoilers from viewing game history or having a player leak results.

I do agree that in this case (like in TSL), the pros of replay casting outweigh the cons.

Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
April 08 2011 18:38 GMT
#570
Woot. Can't wait for this to start. TB casting is going to be epic!
To all the people hating on him, why does every thing have to be analytical? You would assume that if it is on IGN, a lot of the people watching will be casuals. Not only is TB the right choice but he is also one of the best casters (imo) in the world, analytical or not.
Just don't watch then. Watch GSL and TSL and all.
End my suffering
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
April 08 2011 18:38 GMT
#571
Yeah, that's true, it was exciting staying up late to watch OSL and knowing that it was happening live. There is something intangible there that makes it more exciting.
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ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
April 09 2011 05:29 GMT
#572
can't wait for this !
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
April 09 2011 09:32 GMT
#573
We believe that in a situation where the players won't actually be playing in sight of each other or the crowd that doing it this way is significantly better. The only thing people lose is the magical feeling that someone is playing at the same time they are watching it, but it also means that there are no technical issues from players, from bnets, from the casters or having to deal with scheduling and organization on the day, having to delay games waiting for people, the list of negatives goes on and one and the one positive of it being 'live' we consider to be very small in comparison. In addition, doing it off replays means that we can prepare assets specifically for the cast that we couldn't in a 'live' situation.
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Cajun2k1
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands399 Posts
April 09 2011 12:36 GMT
#574
On April 09 2011 18:32 Alex.IGN wrote:
We believe that in a situation where the players won't actually be playing in sight of each other or the crowd that doing it this way is significantly better. The only thing people lose is the magical feeling that someone is playing at the same time they are watching it, but it also means that there are no technical issues from players, from bnets, from the casters or having to deal with scheduling and organization on the day, having to delay games waiting for people, the list of negatives goes on and one and the one positive of it being 'live' we consider to be very small in comparison. In addition, doing it off replays means that we can prepare assets specifically for the cast that we couldn't in a 'live' situation.


That's a very good trade-off in my view. As a viewer, you want no interruptions or downtime, or as little as possible. If it's casted off replays there'll be no technical difficulties with BNet acting up or people lagging, which has been the plague of many tournaments, remember RedditSC finals? I think people have a short memory for the tournaments where such things have failed. It's not something the organizers can do something about, it's out of their reach, but it does reflect upon their tournament, which is very sad, considering sponsors who want things to go smoothly.
How can you kill, that which has no life?
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 19:46:45
April 09 2011 19:33 GMT
#575
Hey guys, we have some new videos up and running!

Promo 2: http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/04/08/ipl-pledge-promo-starcraft-ii?objectid=850126

The people behind the IPL: http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/04/08/ipl-who-is-behind-the-ign-proleague-starcraft-ii

Interview with HDStarcraft: http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/04/08/ipl-interview-with-alex-hdstarcraft-do-starcraft-ii?objectid=850126

Interview with PainUser: http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/04/08/ipl-interview-with-taylor-painuser-parsons-starcraft-ii?objectid=850126

Keep checking in on http://www.ign.com/ipl as we release more video content, including interviews with your favorite players!
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
kommunalka
Profile Joined February 2011
United States550 Posts
April 09 2011 20:02 GMT
#576
Great videos looking forward to the start of the league
rG
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
April 09 2011 20:04 GMT
#577
IGN Fighting!!! This is gonna be awesome. Can't wait.
Good Job Alex and thanks for the updates!
@ggmonx
tehemperorer
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2183 Posts
April 09 2011 20:11 GMT
#578
Painuser is the only caster qualified to say anything related to Starcraft II. Get better casters.
Knowing is half the battle... the other half is lasers.
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
April 09 2011 20:11 GMT
#579
Ugh...not really looking forward to anyone except DJ Wheat casting....and even then I'm on the fence about it.
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 09 2011 20:17 GMT
#580
On April 10 2011 05:11 tehemperorer wrote:
Painuser is the only caster qualified to say anything related to Starcraft II. Get better casters.


Mike Tirico never played in the NBA or NFL, yet is one of ESPN's go to guys for broadcasting both league. Joe Buck never played in the NFL or MLB yet is FOX's go to guy. Yes they get paired with a former player or coach, but they are there for the play by play, which is what these casters will be doing. They are casters who need to explain sc2 to people who don't play it. They are guys you can use to introduce people to competitive sc2.
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