EPTWhich is the strongest race in raw power? - Page 2
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NotSupporting
Sweden1998 Posts
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Conquest101
United States1395 Posts
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Solarian
United States100 Posts
On June 17 2008 08:16 mmmf[r]ogs wrote: That wouldn't work, perfectly microed probes/drones > perfectly microed scvs damn their range and rechargable hp/shields SCV's can repair faster than shields/hp recharge. Two or three SCV's work to repair each other and kill the enemy's nexus/hatchery/CC while whatever other SCV's there are work to force probes/drones to fight back, run, or be destroyed. | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
Mostly it's the defilers that do it | ||
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InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
Because If all units microed perfect, then it's still even I guess O_O | ||
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Ra.Xor.2
United States1784 Posts
On June 17 2008 09:01 InfesTeD]i[ wrote: Once again, SC would be perfect. Because If all units microed perfect, then it's still even I guess O_O You said it. But observers>all :p | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
terran has the most potential, its just extremely hard to get to that level | ||
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G5
United States2921 Posts
there is a reason P and Z need more expos then the T its because there units kill at a much higher ratio then P and Z. if it wern't for there lack of mobility, P and Z would never beat them. | ||
jkillashark
United States5262 Posts
On June 17 2008 08:56 Tropics wrote: Zerg. Flawlessly microed zerglings, lurkers, perfect swarms, perfect plagues, every overlord constantly picking up weak units and redropping them etc. Mostly it's the defilers that do it The thing is, flawlessly microed marines own flawlessly microed zerglings and lurkers. Flawlessly microed marines will run away from flawlessly cast swarms and plagues will be kept to a minimum. | ||
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HamerD
United Kingdom1922 Posts
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G5
United States2921 Posts
terran is the best race in raw form without a doubt. just the fact that they r so versatile on maps too make them even more deadly. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 17 2008 08:24 Conquest101 wrote: Protoss, every game. Perfectly microed probes, 0 deceleration > all This is it for normal maps I think. At least terran is out of the question. Probe/drone rush and perfect simultaneous devil probe will kill all scvs immediately. And even if T managed to rush to get out a marine, the drone/probes would just move-shoot them to death before they cuold get many shots of. scvs trying to build bunkers would be deviled quickly as well. But since the probes would never slow down to a standstill the acceleration wouldnt come into play. Shields recharge quicker than drones heal, but the drones can hunt down probes by perfect move-shoot micro, so once in range of each other, the one getting the upper hand will kill the other worker quite fast. So all in all i dont htink the porbe rush would work vs zerg. I claim that 4 probes cannot beat 6-9 drones, or however many you have by that time, since the probes can be killed by perfect move-shoot. I think a perfectly microed 9 pool speedlings (all building will die quickly by just staying out of lot/probe range and approaching from all directions) can kill a toss that open with gates. Some sort of forge-first with a wallin and probe block if needed would probably defend this though, so imo, ZVP would at least go beyond lings/lots even with perfect micro. Possibly a 2 hatch upped hydras would kill everything. cannons would probably not be enough (or would they?), and lots would die without getting a single hit in. I dont really know what toss can do to counter a 2 hatch hydra build actually. Remember that zerg will cycle damaged hydras perfectly, while cannons stays where they are. And some fast zealot thingy to intercept hte hydra build will not work since drones are faster and will quickly devil-drone and/or move-shoot them to death without taking a single hit from the lots. Maybe if the cannons are up a ramp... If it'd go to endgame, zerg would probably win since with a few defilers (and no cooldown consume) you can advance and lay out a carpet of swarm/plauge as quick as a defiler can move. Then you can easily corner the toss army somewhere and kill it with crack/ultra/lurk. Storm is an issue, but with queens and spawn broodling that shouldnt be too big a problem. Dont know if DAs could be a problem with mind control and/or feedback... Same thing with endgame ZvT i think. carpet of swarm/plauge > terran. you would need a few hydras and scourges to defend from irradiate, but that should be ok. Just keep OLs exactly above the defiler to make it impossible for the terran to target them.  Or pick them up just before vessels are in range in worst case. Im fairly sure that the outer part of a plauge will outrange irradiate, so the defiler should be able to get a plague of before getti gpicked up by the OL. so vessels shouldnt be a problem. And lurks > bats+medics, so you cant do anything with those. Same goes for mines. And tht is moreor less everything terran has that does damamge unders warm, so.... gg.  omg, that was a long post... well, that's the answer anyways. Z > all (in theory) | ||
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FragKrag
United States11556 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
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Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
perfect multiple moving-shot probes would rape the shit out of scvs. Drones have a slight range advantage, though, so a 4-drone rush would theoretically win every game. | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On June 17 2008 09:50 Last Romantic wrote: Haven't y'all read the X comic? perfect multiple moving-shot probes would rape the shit out of scvs. Drones have a slight range advantage, though, so a 4-drone rush would theoretically win every game. eh? dont probes outrange drones? | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 17 2008 09:50 Last Romantic wrote: Drones have a slight range advantagegame. They do?? Ok, that settles that then. Z > all | ||
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On June 17 2008 08:24 Conquest101 wrote: Protoss, every game. Perfectly microed probes, 0 deceleration > all LOL guy is right! Terran is weak lol 4 probe rush ur screwed. | ||
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