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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#3601
We want the bracket !
We want the bracket !
We want the bracket !
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
September 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#3602

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


On September 23 2012 06:37 Hassybaby wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

Not that I do it every day or anything



On September 23 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

EDIT: Naturally i'm just guessing. Naturally.


Either you have a skype convo or something like that going on or you both have a pretty weird hobby I've never heard of before
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
September 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#3603
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.


It's a joke, dood. Calm down.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
VyingsP
Profile Joined December 2011
France174 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3604
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.


You can turn your joke detector back on now
Corrections of my bad english are much welcome
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3605
On September 23 2012 06:41 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:37 Hassybaby wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

Not that I do it every day or anything



Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

EDIT: Naturally i'm just guessing. Naturally.


Either you have a skype convo or something like that going on or you both have a pretty weird hobby I've never heard of before


Or option 3

We get it
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3606
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.


He was joking, obviously.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3607
On September 23 2012 06:41 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:37 Hassybaby wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

Not that I do it every day or anything



Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

EDIT: Naturally i'm just guessing. Naturally.


Either you have a skype convo or something like that going on or you both have a pretty weird hobby I've never heard of before


Well i've never seen this dude before in my life ever so naturally we just both like nuts.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3608
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.

but if we assume apples are tastier than both oranges and pears for example, then clearly Nightend is #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3609
On September 23 2012 06:37 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:34 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


Effective and strangely satisfying?

Not that I do it every day or anything

pics plz
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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3610
On September 23 2012 06:41 ssxsilver wrote:
I don't think Metropolis is Terran favored, I just think it's stupid.
It encourages turtling, either deathballs(P), BL/Infestor/Bank (Z), or mass orbitals (T).

Zerg does BLfestor turtle and Protoss does deathball pretty much every game on every map though.

Metropolis is dumb but there are serious problems with racial design anyway.
from_under
Profile Joined September 2012
21 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3611
On September 23 2012 06:41 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.


It's a joke, dood. Calm down.


you're not him, you don't know if he is actually joking or not... it's pretty difficult to tell if someone is being sarcastic over the internet.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3612
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.


Transitive property. Mathematitcally infallible.
MMA: The true King of Wings
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3613
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.


he's kidding
are you sure you're not romanian
can i get my estro logo back pls
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3614
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.


what about acknowleding ravens, the islands, and buildings (ie a wall at the 5th base or strategic planetaries)?
The stats definitely favour zerg, but are those mostly split-map games? I would highly doubt it.
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3615
On September 23 2012 06:39 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:22 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:20 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:17 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:16 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:14 ssxsilver wrote:
-.-... Metropolis with mass Orbital Commands...

Yeah, Zerg has such a hard time on Metropolis.

Totally.

If the Terran plays well...

Zergs even whine about maps where they have a 65% win rate. Amazing. Truly amazing.

Guess Terrans just normally play terribly or something.

its a Terran favoured map in Korea/

Crux Metropolis
Crux 대도시

Size: 150x150
Spots: 3, 6, 9, 12
Tileset: Installation
Games played: 311

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 29-56 (34.1%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 25-36 (41%) [ Games ]
PvT: 42-42 (50%) [ Games ]
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis

I know 30% TvZ is standard, but please don't say zerg favored, or it'll become the next standard.

well tbh I was just guessing because every game I watch Terran wins. I think Terrans are learning how to properly abuse the map now and the win rate should go up.
Life: The New Champion!!
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
September 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#3616
On September 23 2012 06:37 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:34 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


Effective and strangely satisfying?

Not that I do it every day or anything




You post this after
On September 23 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:34 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


Effective and strangely satisfying?

EDIT: Naturally i'm just guessing. Naturally.

Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 22 2012 21:43 GMT
#3617
On September 23 2012 06:42 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:41 Yello wrote:

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


On September 23 2012 06:37 Hassybaby wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

Not that I do it every day or anything



On September 23 2012 06:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Effective and strangely satisfying?

EDIT: Naturally i'm just guessing. Naturally.


Either you have a skype convo or something like that going on or you both have a pretty weird hobby I've never heard of before


Or option 3

We get it
LR thread illuminati skype group.

I KNOW YOUR SECRET.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 22 2012 21:43 GMT
#3618
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.

Check your troll detector, he was joking.
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Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
September 22 2012 21:43 GMT
#3619
On September 23 2012 06:42 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:39 MrCon wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:22 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:20 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:17 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:16 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:14 ssxsilver wrote:
-.-... Metropolis with mass Orbital Commands...

Yeah, Zerg has such a hard time on Metropolis.

Totally.

If the Terran plays well...

Zergs even whine about maps where they have a 65% win rate. Amazing. Truly amazing.

Guess Terrans just normally play terribly or something.

its a Terran favoured map in Korea/

Crux Metropolis
Crux 대도시

Size: 150x150
Spots: 3, 6, 9, 12
Tileset: Installation
Games played: 311

Race Stats (non-mirrors):
TvZ: 29-56 (34.1%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 25-36 (41%) [ Games ]
PvT: 42-42 (50%) [ Games ]
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis

I know 30% TvZ is standard, but please don't say zerg favored, or it'll become the next standard.

well tbh I was just guessing because every game I watch Terran wins. I think Terrans are learning how to properly abuse the map now and the win rate should go up.

It will be a long way to 50% lol.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
September 22 2012 21:43 GMT
#3620
On September 23 2012 06:42 from_under wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:41 flowSthead wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:40 from_under wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend


that's not necessarily true. pvt is completely different from tvz. you're comparing apples and oranges here. are you proposing that any foreigner that beats a person that beat stephano is the best foreigner in the world? well sorry but you're wrong. remember, taeja lost to rain, first, and seed who are protoss. tvp might just be his weakest match up.


It's a joke, dood. Calm down.


you're not him, you don't know if he is actually joking or not... it's pretty difficult to tell if someone is being sarcastic over the internet.


His name is SarcasmMonster.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
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