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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3561
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3562
On September 23 2012 06:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:31 Ysellian wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Instigata wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:29 Xoronius wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:27 Instigata wrote:
Forgg and Moon both getting DQs for match fixing them both to advance. When will they learn lol?


Do you have a source for this? Or is it just an assumption?

An assumption. I thought others would obviously think the same. American saying assume makes an ASS out of U and ME.


-_- So you just trolled everyone. Ugh

yeah and I can't believe people just randomly believed it because some random claimed so on the internet with no source
They didn't, they asked for a source.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3563
More like I can't believe people actually fell for that trap. Moon and forGG aren't close to begin with -.-
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3564
with better maps I predict a Stephano win of they meet again
Life: The New Champion!!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 21:33:55
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3565
On September 23 2012 06:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:31 Ysellian wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Instigata wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:29 Xoronius wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:27 Instigata wrote:
Forgg and Moon both getting DQs for match fixing them both to advance. When will they learn lol?


Do you have a source for this? Or is it just an assumption?

An assumption. I thought others would obviously think the same. American saying assume makes an ASS out of U and ME.


-_- So you just trolled everyone. Ugh

yeah and I can't believe people just randomly believed it because some random claimed so on the internet with no source


Yeah, yeah. Do you know what time it is? My troll-detection has been off for quite some time now. Besides I did ask for a source.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3566
On September 23 2012 06:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:31 Ysellian wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Instigata wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:29 Xoronius wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:27 Instigata wrote:
Forgg and Moon both getting DQs for match fixing them both to advance. When will they learn lol?


Do you have a source for this? Or is it just an assumption?

An assumption. I thought others would obviously think the same. American saying assume makes an ASS out of U and ME.


-_- So you just trolled everyone. Ugh

yeah and I can't believe people just randomly believed it because some random claimed so on the internet with no source


Yeah it is a bit surprising, but in their defense TL.net is not the place you see that kind of trolling often.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3567
On September 23 2012 06:32 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:31 Ysellian wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Instigata wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:29 Xoronius wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:27 Instigata wrote:
Forgg and Moon both getting DQs for match fixing them both to advance. When will they learn lol?


Do you have a source for this? Or is it just an assumption?

An assumption. I thought others would obviously think the same. American saying assume makes an ASS out of U and ME.


-_- So you just trolled everyone. Ugh

yeah and I can't believe people just randomly believed it because some random claimed so on the internet with no source


actually most people were asking for source
(me included)
can i get my estro logo back pls
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
September 22 2012 21:33 GMT
#3568
On September 23 2012 06:30 glzElectromaster wrote:
Taeja wasn't at his best today (and people started to realize his flaw in mid to late game economy protection), I wouldn't blame it because of what he had to go through the past few days, but I hope he can step it up tomorrow.

Terrans fighting!

Lol that reminds me of MarineKing playing amazing games but with "wtf moments" always losing economy because of no-wall or stuff like that.
He will be even more deadly in GSL type games because he'll be able to work on his flaws.
WriterMaru
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#3569
On September 23 2012 06:30 Aerisky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:28 Rulker wrote:
fuck i love moon
i dont like forgg
but moon, why map fix?

What? Ohhhh crap didn't know of this O_O

Matchfixing? ;__;

Wouldn't be the first time 2 koreans do that. But Moon hid a expansion in the last game against ForGG so I am puzzled by that accusation. Especially coming from DH which doesn't make teammates play the first match in the group (and thus a bunch of match-fixing shit happened)
DuckNuked
Profile Joined June 2012
France60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 21:36:52
September 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#3570
For people thinking i'm French biaised. I'm hungarian and live in france for studies. So stop that, you're out of the point. And i won't go pro, i have not the level, but against masters players, i simply don't lose on these maps coz i know how and when to be defensive.

And i'm part of these terrans who started using lots of ravens even before the snipe nerf. So i'm not kidding, metropolis is just T favored if your opponnent don't try to kill you early.
What makes wins for zergs on this map is ling/bling/muta 2/2 timings, or roach/bling busts. Never seen anything else makes zerg win in pro level matches on this map.

Check GSL, check anything you want, you'll never seen anything else than this huge timing push makes zerg win on metropolis. And if you defend it, you've won. If your opponnent don't does it, you've won too.
Terran Forum "TvP HELP", Protoss Forum "PvZ HELP!", Zerg Forum: "What use for Hydra???"
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#3571
Why the fuck would you do that?

Was that supposed to illustrate that making assumptions are bad? If so that was a terrible, terrible attempt at that and in no way resembled anything like a lesson.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 22 2012 21:34 GMT
#3572
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis
Life: The New Champion!!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#3573
On September 23 2012 06:34 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis

Brb trying that out.
Glorious SEA doto
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#3574
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend
MMA: The true King of Wings
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
September 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#3575
On September 23 2012 06:34 DuckNuked wrote:
For people thinking i'm French biaised. I'm hungarian and live in france for studies. So stop that, you're out of the point. And i won't go pro, i have not the level, but against masters players, i simply don't loose on these maps coz i know how and when to be defensive.

And i'm part of these terrans who started using lots of ravens even before the snipe nerf. So i'm not kidding, metropolis is just T favored if your opponnent don't try to kill you early.
What makes wins for zergs on this map is ling/bling/muta 2/2 timings, or roach/bling busts. Never seen anything else makes zerg win in pro level matches on this map.

Check GSL, check anything you want, you'll never seen anything else than this huge timing push makes zerg win on metropolis. And if you defend it, you've won. If your opponnent don't does it, you've won too.

what you are saying is smart but can you please spell lose right.

It is driving me insane :p
Life: The New Champion!!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#3576
On September 23 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:34 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis

Brb trying that out.

dont forget to send pics
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#3577
On September 23 2012 06:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Nightend > Taeja > Stephano.

I think it's obvious who the best foreigner is...

+ Show Spoiler +
Nightend

Nightend confirmed next zerg bonjwa.
Glorious SEA doto
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
September 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#3578
On September 23 2012 06:35 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:34 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis

Brb trying that out.


It's really not that hard. It's all about momentum.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 21:37:19
September 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#3579
On September 23 2012 06:34 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2012 06:33 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:31 Doubting wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:26 Fragile51 wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:25 1Dhalism wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:19 Poopi wrote:
On September 23 2012 06:18 DuckNuked wrote:
Terran is my main.

But Taeja wins on the two most T favoured maps of the map pool, but looses on a balanced one. Would like to see more games of these two against each other, i don't think taeja will win a BO5/7/9

Lol are you fucking serious?
Metalopolis is Z favored. I did not see the first map but there isn't really a T favoured map anymore in TvZ.

Every map is always terran favored.


Is basically what you're saying with that, FYI.

No lol. Cloud Kingdom and Daybreak both have neutral bases to fight for on either side. Whirlwind, Tal Darim and Entombed have so many bases that full split map almost never happens. Antiga is diagonal.

If you play turtle Terran on Shakuras and metropolis then you have a big advantage.


Do you somehow not acknowledge the existence of broodlord infestor or something? Or instant ultralisk switches, both combined basically the ultimate turtle-cracker? Calling metropolis, the most terran unfavored map in the tournament pool favored towards terran is quite frankly absurd.

Breaking Terran on Metropolis with Ultralisks is like trying to break a walnut with your penis


Effective and strangely satisfying?

EDIT: Naturally i'm just guessing. Naturally.
bosnia
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada223 Posts
September 22 2012 21:37 GMT
#3580
On September 21 2012 21:17 NoGasfOu wrote:
Now that there's Koreans in this tournament, Stephano will get owned again.



Sounds like you want him to be more than just the best european and one of the best zergs in the world.
TL member since 2002, Protoss ftw!!
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