EPT[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 134
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BlackPaladin
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On June 22 2012 02:45 Requizen wrote: Rumble wrecks a lot of people in lane, he's a dick. Dunno about that specific matchup, though. Specifically, Akali must get into melee range to be most effective, but Rumble's shield + flamespitter dominate melee champions. In addition, all of Rumble's damage spells are non-targeted, meaning they can hit akali through smoke bomb. | ||
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Shiv.
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On June 22 2012 03:07 Flakes wrote: Specifically, Akali must get into melee range to be most effective, but Rumble's shield + flamespitter dominate melee champions. In addition, all of Rumble's damage spells are non-targeted, meaning they can hit akali through smoke bomb. It's a hard lane, but I don't think it's as bad as you guys are making it out to be. If you hit 6 without being too fucked, the matchup takes a turn and you are a bigger threat with 3 charges of R, at least in my opinion. Assuming he doesn't have his Revolver yet, you're able to do a good bit of magic with Q-R-Q-AA combos. You just have to pick your places to engage and disengage by using Smoke Screen as a slow and R as a tool to create distance between you and him. There's a good bunch of melee champions who can hold their ground against him just fine, it's just that you need a good gapcloser and preferably a tool to disengage, too. Wukong is a great pick against him for example, and I still believe Riven and Irelia eventually win that lane. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 22 2012 01:38 Shikyo wrote: Maybe I was too far ahead... From what I can remember from playing vs Udyr I max Q first and it actually goes crushing through his turtle especially if you autoattack cancel properly with Q. That ghoul deals like a million damage. However I agree it's tough if you don't gain a large advantage early on. Still I don't think Udyr can properly 1v1 you esp vs your ult so it turns into farmfest once you get a vamp scepter atleast, with turtle youheal like 50 hp per auto with turtle, at a certain point his shield + regen is just gonna be too much for yorick to even bother with | ||
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Alaric
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Mogwai
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On June 22 2012 03:31 Alaric wrote: How does Wukong do great against Rumble? You can't disengage if you use E to engage, as you'll simply eat the whole flamethrower, even if you use W. Wu just trades really well over a similar time span as Rumble's cycle. I can't fully explain it tbh, but having played the matchup a bunch, I can pretty confidently say that it at least feels like Wu wins very handily. | ||
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Shiv.
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On June 22 2012 03:31 Alaric wrote: How does Wukong do great against Rumble? You can't disengage if you use E to engage, as you'll simply eat the whole flamethrower, even if you use W. Engage right after flamethrower ends, basically. You have to abuse his cooldowns to the max, and also play silly mindgames with your W. Run towards him instead of away, for example. | ||
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Flakes
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Wu stomps on people that don't stack armor with how crushing blow + arpen work. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 22 2012 03:38 Shiv. wrote: Engage right after flamethrower ends, basically. You have to abuse his cooldowns to the max, and also play silly mindgames with your W. Run towards him instead of away, for example. Why would I use my flamethrower if you weren't engaging me. | ||
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Shiv.
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seanisgrand
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:28 seanisgrand wrote: My god Yorick is a stupid champ. I'm going to ride this train as far as it can get me. Most important tip: Max Q first vs Bruisers without a blink. You'll be amazed  | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:24 Shiv. wrote: I wouldn't know, I don't play Rumble at all. I have observed some having the tendency to use it when I go in for CS, so I try to abuse that fact. But his Q pushes the lane. So I personally wouldn't do it unless I am harassing my lane opponent or wish to push the lane. | ||
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Alaric
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Flakes
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overt
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On June 22 2012 01:41 Shikyo wrote: I guess I was too vague whoopsies. So let's say that assuming I want to bring my elo up from 1280 to 1500 and assuming I'm generally better than most people I play vs (If we don't get stomped in lane early because of either hardcounter lane or terrible mistakes by me or support I have like twice the farm of the next-best farmer and generally really nice KDA score) which of these would let me 1. Abuse noobs and 2. Be less reliant on my support to be good? By the way anyone else grin ear to ear every time opposing team picks Ezreal(Happens like every other game now)? They seem to be learning to play it for Pulsefire Ezreal and all these Ezreals are absolutely horrible and I love freewin lanes Kinda late, but, whatever. I'm assuming you already own Corki and Graves since you asked about them last time and now you just wanna pick up your next AD, yeh? If you want to crush kids who are worse than you at this game Ez does it better than all of those champions. Sure, Cait is strong in lane and Varus has utility and Kog is a late game monster but Ez is gonna let you quadra kill people who are worse than you with ease. The only issue with Ez is, as you pointed out, lots of people are playing him because of Pulsefire release imminent so he may get sniped away from you. I'd still say that Graves and then Corki are better for crushing people but Ez is pretty even to Corki's pubstomp strength. edit: Oh, Urgot really good at pubstomp too. And super easy to pubstomp with. | ||
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Shiv.
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On June 22 2012 04:40 Sufficiency wrote: But his Q pushes the lane. So I personally wouldn't do it unless I am harassing my lane opponent or wish to push the lane. Using it when I am going in for CS qualifies as harassing, doesn't it? I know you don't make full use of it, but I guess people are assuming it's not as bad because he's manaless, not taking into account that they basically open up a window for you to engage on them. | ||
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kongoline
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On June 22 2012 04:58 kongoline wrote: are there any good poke ap mids except obvious ones like ziggs and kog? Heimer;p | ||
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