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Improbable
Profile Joined March 2003
United States54 Posts
June 21 2012 12:54 GMT
#2621
Why hasn't anyone mentioned udyr as a yorick counter? He's the only champ I've actually seen picked in pro play to successfully counter yorick. Just spam turtle stance, infinite sustain, push tower and farm/roam/counterjungle all day darien style.
Wetty
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia419 Posts
June 21 2012 12:58 GMT
#2622
Yeah, but he could simply counter by activating the spell shield every time before takeoff, and laugh as he lands on veigar with extra attackspeed? Also, it a large number of cases I cant see teams being coordinated enough for them to be that close up, and if you don't know the direction hes coming from it could be tricky. At a higher level of play where people tend to stick closer, you'd want to hope noc isnt going balls deep without his team anyway. He can always activate his ult and wait a touch, wait for the stun to be down, or just shield it. Would be kinda cool to catch someone out a few times until they realised they needed to shield for every ult though
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
June 21 2012 13:11 GMT
#2623
On June 21 2012 21:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
In conjunction with the above question, after the Veigar changes, if Nocturne ults through Event Horizon, will he be stunned? If you can then you could counter Nocturne ult with Veigar in teamfights pretty hilariously by dropping Event Horizon around your team and laugh as Nocturne lands into your team stunned.


I now that when noct is ulting the ''cannot be disabled'' red text comes up like olaf ult so I would assume that he can't be stunned.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 21 2012 13:22 GMT
#2624
On June 21 2012 22:11 valheru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 21:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
In conjunction with the above question, after the Veigar changes, if Nocturne ults through Event Horizon, will he be stunned? If you can then you could counter Nocturne ult with Veigar in teamfights pretty hilariously by dropping Event Horizon around your team and laugh as Nocturne lands into your team stunned.


I now that when noct is ulting the ''cannot be disabled'' red text comes up like olaf ult so I would assume that he can't be stunned.

yea I just checked/tested it. Nocturne is immune to cc during his ulti similar to how Malphite is immune during his.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
June 21 2012 14:06 GMT
#2625
On June 21 2012 18:30 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 17:03 Chexx wrote:
On June 21 2012 16:10 Shikyo wrote:
On June 21 2012 14:36 samthesaluki wrote:
quick question what champs are good vs warwick in lane?

Yorick vs WW is one of the biggest toplane counters in the game



I never had problems against Yorik. You just need to push aggressive you heal on creeps and push it to his tower.
I had problems against Nidalee and Wukongbut I hate these two heroes. Thats maybe just a mindblock.
Sometimes a good Vladimir is a annoyance too. A good Kennen is hard to kill too
In my opinion there is no hardcounter to Warwick

Its important to adjust your build to your enemy, against an AD harass character -> I go wriggles, ninja(depens how much he harasses), then glacial or wits ends
against AP -> wits end if and one extra cloak.

And I heal on creeps with AA and push a little aggressive.

He denies WW from lvl 2 on (Even at lvl 1 can harrass hard) and gets a huge advantage. Yorick can completely deny WW during the early levels so although WW is fine after some items like lantern and wits end, by that point Yorick should be so far ahead that he can still hold his own against WW

Oh yeah and WW dies vs Yorick in 1v1 really fast especially if the Yorick has the kind of an advantage he is going to be getting

Yorick isn't really an AD harrass character in the purest sense since his skills deal magic damage.



I just run away from the ghouls. Till now it worked perfectly fine for me, but I am not that high on elo.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
June 21 2012 14:30 GMT
#2626
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.
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eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
June 21 2012 14:41 GMT
#2627
i actually seen dark matter hit nocturne mid ult so maybe glitch
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 21 2012 14:43 GMT
#2628
On June 21 2012 23:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.

You think a good yorick will cast ghouls on you if you're standing close to a bush? He's just going to walk in it first and then ghoul you
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
June 21 2012 14:53 GMT
#2629
On June 21 2012 23:41 eagle wrote:
i actually seen dark matter hit nocturne mid ult so maybe glitch

nocturne can still be damaged during his ult; he just can't be cc'd.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 21 2012 14:59 GMT
#2630
On June 21 2012 23:43 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 23:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.

You think a good yorick will cast ghouls on you if you're standing close to a bush? He's just going to walk in it first and then ghoul you


Assuming it's always possible for yorick to harass you while he's in a brush and you're not next to one..
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 21 2012 15:00 GMT
#2631
You guys know the feeling, when you are trying to practice AD carry and then you get 2 people who are like we 2 premade bot we aren't noobs we have good communication

And you're like, oh okay fine, that can't fail too badly... And then the AD carry goes 0-4 and has 19 minions at 7min and ragequits

And then you as solo top and the mid morgana carry the shit out of your team and you win 4v5. Man that's amazing.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 21 2012 15:26 GMT
#2632
On June 22 2012 00:00 Shikyo wrote:
You guys know the feeling, when you are trying to practice AD carry and then you get 2 people who are like we 2 premade bot we aren't noobs we have good communication

And you're like, oh okay fine, that can't fail too badly... And then the AD carry goes 0-4 and has 19 minions at 7min and ragequits

And then you as solo top and the mid morgana carry the shit out of your team and you win 4v5. Man that's amazing.

bot lane duo = always lose
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 15:32:33
June 21 2012 15:27 GMT
#2633
On June 21 2012 23:59 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 23:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.

You think a good yorick will cast ghouls on you if you're standing close to a bush? He's just going to walk in it first and then ghoul you


Assuming it's always possible for yorick to harass you while he's in a brush and you're not next to one..

Tell me a common situation where this would not be possible
If ww is near bush, he goes in bush and ghouls.
If the ww is no longer near the bush, he can just ghoul without running the risk of ww running to a bush. Talking about this is useless, the fact is that dodging yorick's ghouls is in most situations impossible
if you're really adamant about this, we can test once u come online
edit: talking about vs ww
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-21 15:50:26
June 21 2012 15:49 GMT
#2634
On June 21 2012 23:59 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 23:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.

You think a good yorick will cast ghouls on you if you're standing close to a bush? He's just going to walk in it first and then ghoul you


Assuming it's always possible for yorick to harass you while he's in a brush and you're not next to one..

What I do is cast E on them and cast W in the brush for vision. How would you counter that?


Another AD carry quiz:

At 6300 IP, do I get:

1. Ezreal

2. Caitlyn

3. Varus

4. Kog'Maw
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
June 21 2012 15:49 GMT
#2635
On June 21 2012 21:54 Improbable wrote:
Why hasn't anyone mentioned udyr as a yorick counter? He's the only champ I've actually seen picked in pro play to successfully counter yorick. Just spam turtle stance, infinite sustain, push tower and farm/roam/counterjungle all day darien style.

This guys speaks the truth, you just free farm as Udyr vs Yorick and he can't do a single thing
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 21 2012 15:50 GMT
#2636
On June 22 2012 00:49 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 21:54 Improbable wrote:
Why hasn't anyone mentioned udyr as a yorick counter? He's the only champ I've actually seen picked in pro play to successfully counter yorick. Just spam turtle stance, infinite sustain, push tower and farm/roam/counterjungle all day darien style.

This guys speaks the truth, you just free farm as Udyr vs Yorick and he can't do a single thing

You beat Udyr in trades with Q from my experience
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
June 21 2012 15:58 GMT
#2637
On June 22 2012 00:49 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 23:59 Slayer91 wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.

You think a good yorick will cast ghouls on you if you're standing close to a bush? He's just going to walk in it first and then ghoul you


Assuming it's always possible for yorick to harass you while he's in a brush and you're not next to one..

What I do is cast E on them and cast W in the brush for vision. How would you counter that?


Another AD carry quiz:

At 6300 IP, do I get:

1. Ezreal

2. Caitlyn

3. Varus

4. Kog'Maw



So hungry
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 21 2012 16:00 GMT
#2638
On June 22 2012 00:49 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 23:59 Slayer91 wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.

You think a good yorick will cast ghouls on you if you're standing close to a bush? He's just going to walk in it first and then ghoul you


Assuming it's always possible for yorick to harass you while he's in a brush and you're not next to one..

What I do is cast E on them and cast W in the brush for vision. How would you counter that?


Another AD carry quiz:

At 6300 IP, do I get:

1. Ezreal

2. Caitlyn

3. Varus

4. Kog'Maw


iunno wait for w then walk into brush? Like, it's just a little trick that helps situationally, most champions don't worry that much about yoricks harass. The whole Q trade thing just ends up farming at tower, which you always do vs yorick because his harass pushes lanes.
eScapegoat100
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada71 Posts
June 21 2012 16:16 GMT
#2639
Hi guys. Long time lurker.

Whenever I see the other team pick Yorick I pick Lee Sin and max W.

You heal up all his harass easy and if he keeps trying you run him oom. Best thing about lee is that it's not just a farmfest - you can kill him too!
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mcimba42
Profile Joined October 2011
192 Posts
June 21 2012 16:29 GMT
#2640
On June 22 2012 00:49 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 23:59 Slayer91 wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:43 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 21 2012 23:30 ihasaKAROT wrote:
the ghouls dont follow you into the brushes, if you can bait alot of ghouls and 'deny' them like that you will win just by having him run OOM without gaining anything.

You think a good yorick will cast ghouls on you if you're standing close to a bush? He's just going to walk in it first and then ghoul you


Assuming it's always possible for yorick to harass you while he's in a brush and you're not next to one..

What I do is cast E on them and cast W in the brush for vision. How would you counter that?


Another AD carry quiz:

At 6300 IP, do I get:

1. Ezreal

2. Caitlyn

3. Varus

4. Kog'Maw

kog is the strongest, ez is the most fun, cait is the best in lane overall, varus is still largely unknown because no one really bothered playing him
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