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happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 19 2011 18:53 GMT
#241
On April 16 2011 17:27 happy1 wrote:
Also, some math/notes I've put together while idly waiting for more people to start posting.

D1 9:2
D2 7:2
D3 5:2
D4 3:2 - LYLO

N2 looks best; that way we can check if we are going into LYLO the next day. If we lynch a town on D3, but have 1 scum left, 2 people is a small enough pool to do reasonable analysis on. Best-case scenario is actually lynching the scum the day we use our 1 shot team ability.

Using our ability tonight, we will know if we will be entering LYLO D4

##Vote: Activate Night Ability
grumpy1
Profile Joined April 2011
31 Posts
April 19 2011 19:40 GMT
#242
##Vote: Activate Night Ability
doc1
Profile Joined April 2011
30 Posts
April 19 2011 22:38 GMT
#243
WAIT WTF ITS NIGHT?
doc1
Profile Joined April 2011
30 Posts
April 19 2011 22:40 GMT
#244
##Vote: Activate Night Ability before i forget.
happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 19 2011 23:15 GMT
#245
On April 20 2011 07:38 doc1 wrote:
WAIT WTF ITS NIGHT?

My thoughts to; D2 was arguably worse than D1.
Current level of Mad: Nuklear

Also, anyone who doesn't vote Yea or Nay on whether to use the Night Ability will die by my hand.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 05:06:31
April 20 2011 05:03 GMT
#246
[image loading]
Day 3


The darkness in the experiment chamber was all consuming. Meapak had turned the lights out what seemed like an eternity ago. In the midst of the darkness a scuffle could be heard, then a loud crack. Meapak and RoL watched from their observation room with a keen interest. When the rustling subsided one of the subjects shouted to the rest “Uhh, is everyone okay…?” He was answered by a momentary silence. Then loudspeaker came on overhead and the familiar voice of Meapak_ziphh reverberated off the walls “One minute until lights on.” As the lights turned back on it blinded the room, but as everything came back into focus everyone looked around as their eyes came to rest on what spot. The body of Doc1 lay on the ground with a pool of blood underneath where he head now lie.

Doc1 had died.


The reveal power has been activated. There are currently two mafia remaining.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 05:09:52
April 20 2011 05:09 GMT
#247
Just a reminder. I do have an activity requirement in this game. It is not my responsibility to send out PM's reminding people either. Post game this will be enforced. I recommend posting more, especially to those who have been less active then required.
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sleepy1
Profile Joined April 2011
37 Posts
April 20 2011 05:49 GMT
#248
hmm...I have a lynch target

Grumpy1

On April 16 2011 15:33 grumpy1 wrote:
Since it looks like the idea is being thought about, I think a mass roleclaim, at least for the time being, would be a pretty bad idea. There are enough potential roles out there that the mafia would be able to claim and get away with it without much trouble.

In fact, I'm going to go ahead and say that believing any claim in this game is likely a poor idea. With the no-flip mechanic, we've got no way of safely confirming anything aside from looking at the mafia count. We don't know if a role that's claimed is even in the game at all. With 9 townies and 2 mafia (one of which could be the godfather), it's definitely pretty unlikely that the whole role list is out there -- there's too many places to hide.

In other words, behavior analysis is super important this time around.


Trying to help, or completely worthless contribution? He basically says "Don't mass role claim or believe claims from people since this is a no-flip." Duh.

He then argues with tiberius1 a bit but look at how weak the arguments are. Then immediately he goes from argumentative with tiberius to agreeing with tiberius. He justifies voting for sneezy due to inactivity and then they both stay on him for the whole day even when he later says that augustus was a bad lynch even though he was someone who (1) didn't vote (2) didn't contribute to much of anything. Bascially of the same net worth as sneezy in terms of activity and content. Like I said before, mafia aren't going to be the ones being super inactive, they're going to be the in-betweens that really don't say much of anything when they post. They're also going to be the ones that are most likely to go for the easy targets, the inactives, to push for a lynch on them. He continues to point fingers at everyone around him but never stays for too long on any one person.

He then pretty much follows tiberius in his vote for doc, giving weak reasons.

##vote grumpy1

he'll flip red



augustus1
Profile Joined April 2011
20 Posts
April 20 2011 10:45 GMT
#249
Pfffftttt
grumpy1
Profile Joined April 2011
31 Posts
April 20 2011 15:53 GMT
#250
On April 20 2011 14:49 sleepy1 wrote:
hmm...I have a lynch target

Grumpy1

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 15:33 grumpy1 wrote:
Since it looks like the idea is being thought about, I think a mass roleclaim, at least for the time being, would be a pretty bad idea. There are enough potential roles out there that the mafia would be able to claim and get away with it without much trouble.

In fact, I'm going to go ahead and say that believing any claim in this game is likely a poor idea. With the no-flip mechanic, we've got no way of safely confirming anything aside from looking at the mafia count. We don't know if a role that's claimed is even in the game at all. With 9 townies and 2 mafia (one of which could be the godfather), it's definitely pretty unlikely that the whole role list is out there -- there's too many places to hide.

In other words, behavior analysis is super important this time around.


Trying to help, or completely worthless contribution? He basically says "Don't mass role claim or believe claims from people since this is a no-flip." Duh.


It was the very beginning of the game. I'm not sure what else you could have wanted from me then.


He then argues with tiberius1 a bit but look at how weak the arguments are. Then immediately he goes from argumentative with tiberius to agreeing with tiberius.


I'm not allowed to change my mind? After a post tiberius made, I saw what seemed liked scummy play. Tiberius clarified his intentions and started contributing more. I decided there were better lynches to be made, namely sneezy.


He justifies voting for sneezy due to inactivity and then they both stay on him for the whole day even when he later says that augustus was a bad lynch even though he was someone who (1) didn't vote (2) didn't contribute to much of anything.


I honestly have no idea what's going on in this quote. I tried to lynch an inactive, since there aren't modkills for inactivity? Scum! I thought augustus wasn't the best lynch, so I voted for somebody else? That's so scummy!

-_-

He continues to point fingers at everyone around him but never stays for too long on any one person.


You're blowing it out of proportion. I've pressured tiberius, voted sneezy for inactivity and dopey for the reasons tiberius gave.

He then pretty much follows tiberius in his vote for doc, giving weak reasons.


How were they weak or scummy? Quote me, and tell everyone, otherwise this doesn't mean anything.


##vote grumpy1

he'll flip red


Nope.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 20 2011 19:22 GMT
#251
There is 18 hours remaining in the day.
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happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 20 2011 21:11 GMT
#252
Not seeing the Grumpy case
Also, bloody flaming hell, it seems the days are passing faster and faster. =|
claudius1
Profile Joined April 2011
28 Posts
April 20 2011 21:50 GMT
#253
FoS sleepy1
sleepy, I'm not liking your posting...

You started the game posting, terribly with stuff like:
On April 17 2011 02:56 sleepy1 wrote:
facepalm ON -_-


and

On April 17 2011 03:17 sleepy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 03:13 chaoser wrote:
this is why rol said to use two browsers -_-

EDIT: I AM OBSERVING, SORRY WILL NOT BE POSTING AGAIN


Ok, only smurf accounts should post in this thread, and people, please check your accounts before you post


Then (can look at his other posts around that time... all similar looking) you came out with this gem:

On April 17 2011 05:56 sleepy1 wrote:
Pressure on doc1 for posting gems like:

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 14:46 doc1 wrote:
Yo science dudes were stuck in a windowless room how do we know what time it is?!?!


Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 01:56 doc1 wrote:
If you wanted yourself checked you could be just GF and wanting town confirmation. That seems kinda scummy in my eyes.


and

Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 03:19 doc1 wrote:
On April 17 2011 03:17 sleepy1 wrote:
On April 17 2011 03:13 chaoser wrote:
this is why rol said to use two browsers -_-

EDIT: I AM OBSERVING, SORRY WILL NOT BE POSTING AGAIN


Ok, only smurf accounts should post in this thread, and people, please check your accounts before you post


Another good way is to disable remember me and make sure to log in on your smurf so if you post as you read as SOME PEOPLE obviously do then your at least on the right account.


The last one clearly showing that he is following the thread and yet not saying much about the conversation at hand. What up doc?


You FoS someone for posting like you... this is you trying to look like you contribute more to the thread, but simply are being hypocritical.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 17 2011 10:39 sleepy1 wrote:
-_-

##vote augustus1/b]

I doubt mafia are going to be inactive/post only once in a game of 11 people. Mafia would want to blend in and try to look like they're contributing but not really, not stay quiet and not do anything. augustus1 has been saying either things that are common sense or questions:

On April 16 2011 21:46 augustus1 wrote:
So are you advocating a mass claiming?


On April 16 2011 22:59 augustus1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 22:41 caligula1 wrote:
happy - that looks sound. Unless vig/medic or something else happens I would agree with that

I assume what you mean is that the person being lynched should claim before being lynched. Not that there should be any mass claim.

Are we allowed vote for a no lynch?

How does a medic "happen"? If you read the OP you will see that the medic is not informed if they do a successful protect. Nor is the person they protected.

Actually I'm thinking right now the scum team just outed itself.
Happy and Caligula.


On April 16 2011 23:02 augustus1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 22:52 bashful1 wrote:
On April 16 2011 21:46 augustus1 wrote:
So are you advocating a mass claiming?

No, he was recommending that you claim before you hang. Or at least that's what I think.

I haven't thought through the idea of a mass claim. Early mass claim will lead to everyone claiming townie because, well, mafia won't want to gamble, and blues will want to stay hidden. I would say we should definitely mass claim at LYLO though.

##Vote Grumpy1

Agreed with the post critic, have some pressure.

Claiming at lynch is fine and all but it doesn't really mean anything.
Claiming before that is suicide.


On April 17 2011 00:28 augustus1 wrote:
I understand how the roles work I understand how KP works. I also understand how scum like to create pointless arguments on day 1 to fill a game full of bs.
Role claiming in this setup at this time makes no sense.
Role claiming before being lynched is fine. But it is basically useless information.
Medic gets lynched.
Medic claims before nightpost.
Scum hit vet.
Does that verify the medics claim???
Apply that to vig, medic, vet. Any number of scenarios can arise in night actions to make it appear they were telling the truth. It's all WIFOM.
If you are a vig and claim your shot before the day post you would be confirmed if there are 2 kills and 1 was your claimed target.
If you are cop and post your targeted person before the day post and the day post shows that player you are confirmed. You are also likely dead.
For all we know if we had a medic they died 2 days ago.
Now throw in a role blocker. Night actions and results can in no way shape or form be used to determine if somebody has truthfully made a role claim.

You're scum.
##Vote: Caligula1


On April 17 2011 00:45 augustus1 wrote:
OMGUS.
Nice one too.
I'm aggressive? Before I was dense. Or a troll.
I'm not spamming anything. I'm stating my opinion on role claiming. You are the one pushing an argument.


Quickly defensive and really just all around being aggressive without a real reason (not like it's focused aggression to draw a response in my opinion)


Then you come out and FoS augustus1. You don't follow through with the doc1 pressure, you just switch right to augustus1.

On April 19 2011 09:50 sleepy1 wrote:
Actually, I agree

Aye

if there's a vigi, they shoot him, we vote for flip. If we get 1 in the day post, then either Augustus or Tiberius was mafia. If we get 2 then we have to start suspecting happy for pulling our chains around for hunting fake ghosts.


Then he FoS's happy1 and Tiberius, although this time he keeps the Augustus FoS... somewhat.

^^^ btw, 4 of his posts are this exact thing, except worded differently such as:

On April 19 2011 10:16 sleepy1 wrote:
On April 19 2011 10:07 grumpy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2011 10:03 grumpy1 wrote:
On April 19 2011 09:50 sleepy1 wrote:
Actually, I agree

Aye

if there's a vigi, they shoot him, we vote for flip. If we get 1 in the day post, then either Augustus or Tiberius was mafia. If we get 2 then we have to start suspecting happy for pulling our chains around for hunting fake ghosts.


Why would Tiberius be mafia?


That is, why would he be dead?


aren't we shooting him? happy thinks there's a vigi and he wants him to use his 1 shot on Tiberius? Well I guess it won't just be between tiberius and augustus but against augustus, tiberius and whomever we lynch today.


and

On April 19 2011 10:20 sleepy1 wrote:
I still think lynching him after using our night ability is the best since we can 100% be sure of his alignment but a vigi shot on him would be ok with me too. I'd rather lynch doc, he's posted a whole lot of nothings in his posts.


Then we come to his final gem of a post

+ Show Spoiler +
[B]On April 21 2011 00:53 grumpy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 14:49 sleepy1 wrote:
hmm...I have a lynch target

Grumpy1

On April 16 2011 15:33 grumpy1 wrote:
Since it looks like the idea is being thought about, I think a mass roleclaim, at least for the time being, would be a pretty bad idea. There are enough potential roles out there that the mafia would be able to claim and get away with it without much trouble.

In fact, I'm going to go ahead and say that believing any claim in this game is likely a poor idea. With the no-flip mechanic, we've got no way of safely confirming anything aside from looking at the mafia count. We don't know if a role that's claimed is even in the game at all. With 9 townies and 2 mafia (one of which could be the godfather), it's definitely pretty unlikely that the whole role list is out there -- there's too many places to hide.

In other words, behavior analysis is super important this time around.


Trying to help, or completely worthless contribution? He basically says "Don't mass role claim or believe claims from people since this is a no-flip." Duh.


It was the very beginning of the game. I'm not sure what else you could have wanted from me then.

Show nested quote +

He then argues with tiberius1 a bit but look at how weak the arguments are. Then immediately he goes from argumentative with tiberius to agreeing with tiberius.


I'm not allowed to change my mind? After a post tiberius made, I saw what seemed liked scummy play. Tiberius clarified his intentions and started contributing more. I decided there were better lynches to be made, namely sneezy.

Show nested quote +

He justifies voting for sneezy due to inactivity and then they both stay on him for the whole day even when he later says that augustus was a bad lynch even though he was someone who (1) didn't vote (2) didn't contribute to much of anything.


I honestly have no idea what's going on in this quote. I tried to lynch an inactive, since there aren't modkills for inactivity? Scum! I thought augustus wasn't the best lynch, so I voted for somebody else? That's so scummy!

-_-

Show nested quote +
He continues to point fingers at everyone around him but never stays for too long on any one person.


You're blowing it out of proportion. I've pressured tiberius, voted sneezy for inactivity and dopey for the reasons tiberius gave.

Show nested quote +
He then pretty much follows tiberius in his vote for doc, giving weak reasons.


How were they weak or scummy? Quote me, and tell everyone, otherwise this doesn't mean anything.

Show nested quote +

##vote grumpy1

he'll flip red


Nope.


Another FoS, he drops the ones on Tiberius and on happy1 for this.

sleepy1 is just FoS'ing every single player, without actually following through with a single thing. He is trying to act like he is contributing, but he FoS's a player, then never posts about them again. He is making it seem like he is helping the town, while still staying at arms length. Even if you look, most of his FoS's have been soft FoS's like "I don't like the way you post" instead of calling them scum.

Only now, when its pretty much lylo does sleepy1 actually post that someone is scum, I'm betting that grumpy is town and sleepy1 is trying to get us to lynch him to help his team win. To me this is a slip, but others might not see it this way...

- - - - -

Btw, the other mafia player is either Tiberius1 or happy1 simply because no self respecting mafia team would let the most active posters (Tiberius1 and happy1) survive until the end game without being part of the most active players, while trying to get the town to lynch the other active players. This is just my opinion, but if you look at who the mafia has killed, they have both been less than active players, which is surprising for a mafia game. Would be surprised if one of them wasn't mafia...
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 22:30:37
April 20 2011 22:30 GMT
#254
sleepy1
Profile Joined April 2011
37 Posts
April 20 2011 22:46 GMT
#255
@claudius1

Thanks for taking my posts completely out of context.

Firstly, in regards to the doc1 post, it wasn't an FoS. It was pressure for him to post more. Just like how after wards I posted substantial posts too. Once he starts posting real posts with information and he starts taking stances, my post had served it purpose and so I started looking at others. What's there to follow through with if my goal was to pressure him to post more and...by gosh, he posted more! Yayyyy.

I didn't FoS Tiberius and Happy together, I FoS-ed Tiberius and I still FoS Tiberius till now. My read on grumpy is that he is tied to tiberius and they are both mafia. I'm sure if one of them flips red, the other will as well.

On April 19 2011 09:50 sleepy1 wrote:
Actually, I agree

Aye

if there's a vigi, they shoot him, we vote for flip. If we get 1 in the day post, then either Augustus or Tiberius was mafia. If we get 2 then we have to start suspecting happy for pulling our chains around for hunting fake ghosts.


And to go back to the tiberius and happy FoSing, I said I would be suspicious (aka guys be sure to look at!) happy if tiberius flipped green. I think that's a valid point to have.

The two posts after that are because I was trying to clarify my position on the vigi shot and my post previously where I said Aye. At the time I had thought happy's post about using the 1shot meant to use a vigi shot. I have previously thought that I was saying Aye, if there's a vigi, they should shoot tiberius. But I later realized that when happy said should we use our 1shot ability he meant the flip and not an actual vigi shot.

I have followed through with every FoS that I actually had except for the very last one against doc and that was because tiberius said he'd analyze doc and I thought, if tiberius is mafia, then he wouldn't analyze his own partner and so doc can't be mafia.

Pressure and FoS isn't the same. I stand by my stance that Grumpy and tiberius are mafia together. If one flips red, the other will as well.
happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 20 2011 23:47 GMT
#256
On April 21 2011 07:46 sleepy1 wrote:
Pressure and FoS isn't the same.

Why would you pressure someone you don't have suspicions about?

Dopey1 - lynched day 2
Doc1 - killed night 2
Bashful1 - killed night 1
Augustus1 - lynched day 1



Sleepy1 - Scum
Grumpy1 - Town
Sneezy1 - Leaning Scum
Tiberius1 - Neutral
Caligula1 - Leaning Town
Claudius1 - Neutral

Rereading each person, this is my evaluation.
If I get enough time I'll expand on things I will, but reread the thread keeping in mind the fact Dopey, Doc, Bashful, and Augustus are town. Also, look at Sneezy's list+reasonings (near the end of D2 I think it was)- I thought it was interesting.

Vote## Sleepy1
sleepy1
Profile Joined April 2011
37 Posts
April 21 2011 00:02 GMT
#257
Why would you pressure someone you don't have suspicions about?


Have you never played a mafia game before? wtf kind of question is this...Day 1 pressure on lurkers is common and totally normal? Go read a game where there is pressure and then is dropped as soon as someone posts. Here, I'll even find some for you.


On February 25 2011 05:49 Foolishness wrote:
Vote: annul

Got to make him squirm a little more. Not to mention icemac is obviously town....at the very least you guys could vote Jackal so we get better confirmation on him, but I sure as heck ain't voting on a new player who clearly has no fear of posting in the thread.


after annul posts a bit

On February 25 2011 10:12 Foolishness wrote:
Taking vote off of annul; purposed served.

##unvote annul
##vote seraph


On April 16 2011 05:19 VarpuliS wrote:
Alright, just got back! Read through the thread, and from what I can gather, everybody either wants to

a) Lynch an inactive player because he might be lurking scum/ because he won't be helpful later on.

b) Wait to see how things play out.

I think we should pressure lurkers, but put the votes towards suspicious characters once we get the lurkers talking.


On February 24 2011 00:27 OriginalName wrote:
We still have people who havent posted as well I think we need to start pressureing them.

The following need to post:

icemac
JBright
astroorion
ICanFlyLow
Gofarman

:/


Later on he drops the issue after a few of them post. He continues to pressure those that don't.

GM in particular loves to do this.

On February 24 2011 11:39 GMarshal wrote:
I would agree to pressure an inactive, does astroorion sound good to people?


Pressures a player, astroorion posts a bit. GM moves on to other players.

You're fucking kidding me if you think pressure and FoS are the exact same thing. If the only thing you're going on is "why would you pressure someone but not FoS them?" then you are failing horribly.
sleepy1
Profile Joined April 2011
37 Posts
April 21 2011 00:12 GMT
#258
You're going to go after something retarded like that and not see the tiberius-grumpy connection? The amount of wishy-washy ness there is ridiculous. Look at this:

On April 17 2011 02:47 grumpy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 01:53 tiberius1 wrote:
..actually, thinking this through, I'm absolutely wrong. There is no reason for BOTH mafia to come out into the light of day DAY 1. That's just asking for one of them to be lynched, and since theres no reveal theres no reason to do that for cred. Its a free scum lynch for us.

Therefore, we can probably assume that there will be no bussing from scum until we decide on a night to reveal mafia count.

However, if we were to assume that no mafia has put themselves forward yet this game as a major power player, we'd be idiots. So I think that one of the two of cal/aug (include me to make 3 if you're REALLY unsure) is probably mafia.

I guess we got some targets for checks tonight. me/cal/aug


Why are you a check target? You seem determined to make yourself a suspect in this, which seems... unnecessarily defensive to me. Nobody's suspicious of you.

Or, at least, nobody was suspicious of you.


On April 17 2011 04:32 grumpy1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2011 02:58 tiberius1 wrote:
Ok, lets pretend that my posted that exact post except I didn't say to check myself. Are you still suspicious?

personally, I would be because a plan that relies on judging people's relative force of personality in a group that doesn't take into effect your own effect on that group is fucking stupid.

A surveying example:
If we were measuring the tallest mountains in the world, wouldn't you want to know what elevation you're measuring from? Perhaps you're at sea level, or maybe you're at -1000 sea level. Things like that can seriously screw up surveying. Unless you can actually climb the mountain and measure it yourself (ie rolecheck/killing in a reveal flip game) you need to know precicely where you stand with regards to your target.

Same thing goes for this game. If I were to come up with a plan that basically says "Everyone who has tried to post an idea so far is possibly mafia," wouldn't you be suspicious if I didn't acknowledge that I could be the mafia trying to fit in? I'm posting an idea after all. My own plan implicates me by ommission.

You should be suspicious of me, since my theory demands that you do so. Now that i've come up with a solid plan and idea this early in the game, the chances of me being mafia have risen dramatically. I'm not, of course, but you have no way of knowing that. By drawing attention to myself in this way I'm forcing you to play it safe, which is the way that you should be playing anyway. I'm not going to let this game devolve into xxxviii.


What the hell is all this? You've got an entire essay here that could exist in two sentences. Overreaction much?

It's common sense that scum have something to be guilty about. Thus, they tend to feel a need to defend / implicate themselves even when all eyes aren't necessarily scrutinizing their posts. Would I be as suspicious of your post if you didn't implicate yourself? No. Does that matter? No.


On April 17 2011 05:30 grumpy1 wrote:
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On April 17 2011 04:55 tiberius1 wrote:
On April 17 2011 04:32 grumpy1 wrote:
On April 17 2011 02:58 tiberius1 wrote:
Ok, lets pretend that my posted that exact post except I didn't say to check myself. Are you still suspicious?

personally, I would be because a plan that relies on judging people's relative force of personality in a group that doesn't take into effect your own effect on that group is fucking stupid.

A surveying example:
If we were measuring the tallest mountains in the world, wouldn't you want to know what elevation you're measuring from? Perhaps you're at sea level, or maybe you're at -1000 sea level. Things like that can seriously screw up surveying. Unless you can actually climb the mountain and measure it yourself (ie rolecheck/killing in a reveal flip game) you need to know precicely where you stand with regards to your target.

Same thing goes for this game. If I were to come up with a plan that basically says "Everyone who has tried to post an idea so far is possibly mafia," wouldn't you be suspicious if I didn't acknowledge that I could be the mafia trying to fit in? I'm posting an idea after all. My own plan implicates me by ommission.

You should be suspicious of me, since my theory demands that you do so. Now that i've come up with a solid plan and idea this early in the game, the chances of me being mafia have risen dramatically. I'm not, of course, but you have no way of knowing that. By drawing attention to myself in this way I'm forcing you to play it safe, which is the way that you should be playing anyway. I'm not going to let this game devolve into xxxviii.


What the hell is all this? You've got an entire essay here that could exist in two sentences. Overreaction much?

It's common sense that scum have something to be guilty about. Thus, they tend to feel a need to defend / implicate themselves even when all eyes aren't necessarily scrutinizing their posts. Would I be as suspicious of your post if you didn't implicate yourself? No. Does that matter? No.


Just because your playstyle dictates that players that come up with good plans are automatically green doesnt mean that mine does, especially for a plan like mine which is recursive and logically demands that I include myself in it. But whatever, you're acting the most scummy this game.


Why am I most scummy? Come at me, bro. All that's been brought against me in particular is that in my first post of the game happy "felt the tone was off". (for the record, I think happy is most likely to be town out of everybody)

Your "plan" came down to "here's two players having an argument, we should have a DT (never mind that there might not be a DT, and it'll be hell confirming one) check one of them". Offering yourself up for a check doesn't add anything to your plan and only further confused the issue.

Basically, it didn't feel like a plan, it felt like you were suggesting that you should be checked because you strongly suspected two other people, which made no sense at all.


This goes on for a few pages and right after the "come at me bro" post and with lines like

What the hell is all this? You've got an entire essay here that could exist in two sentences. Overreaction much?


which is 100% an FoS saying tiberius is contributing but not by being overtly wordy, grumpy 180 degrees changes his FoS and goes

On April 17 2011 05:43 grumpy1 wrote:
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On April 17 2011 05:06 tiberius1 wrote:
Oh shit. I should probably get a vote in then.

#vote sneezy1 because he literally hasn't posted yet and I want to apply a little pressure.


This I can agree with.

##Vote sneezy1
sleepy1
Profile Joined April 2011
37 Posts
April 21 2011 00:24 GMT
#259
On April 17 2011 14:39 grumpy1 wrote:
Doc, could your vote possibly be more OMGUS in nature? I highly doubt either of you are scum -- your argument is silly. There are much better places to put votes right now.


He continues with the wishy-washiness, saying doc's vote is OMGUS and thus devoid of any real substance and then stops JUST short of FoS, saying both doc and happy aren't scum.

He goes on to FoS sneezy but doesn't commit:

On April 19 2011 09:59 grumpy1 wrote:
Aye

I don't feel that there are any especially good lynches right now. I still heavily dislike how sneezy has been playing this game.

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On April 19 2011 09:37 happy1 wrote:
Augustus1 & Claudius1 your thoughts on the current situation? How do you feel about Bashful's death? Stance on Tiberius? What is in a wonder ball?


Augustus is dead. It would be nice to hear from Claudius, but as long as he gets in before the lynch his activity level would be consistent. But even during his brief period of activity he didn't contribute much aside from defending himself. If he shows up, he'd better have something good to say.


This aspect is shown by tiberius as well, as was pointed out by bashful. Both of them are playing similar "wishy-washy, I don't want to commit" styles and are clearly tied to one another, just look at their voting patterns, popping in to push someone over the top of getting lynched. Tiberius was being pushed by happy to be lynched but all of a sudden a weak analysis of dopey pops up late in the day and all of a sudden it gets the support of both? Yeah ok

Lynch grumpy and when he flips red, lynch tiberius
happy1
Profile Joined April 2011
83 Posts
April 21 2011 00:27 GMT
#260
On April 21 2011 09:02 sleepy1 wrote:
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Why would you pressure someone you don't have suspicions about?


Have you never played a mafia game before? wtf kind of question is this...Day 1 pressure on lurkers is common and totally normal? Go read a game where there is pressure and then is dropped as soon as someone posts. Here, I'll even find some for you.

Actually the question was to see how you would respond to it.

Also, not seeing a Grumpy+Tiberius connection. Mostly because Grumpy looks pretty town to me from his posts. The only point is that I could see it looking like Grumpy is coaching Tiberius...but I'm not getting that feeling.

So I'm comfortable on my vote.
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