On May 08 2011 07:56 wzzit wrote: Hilarious. Clearly, you have no idea what a dictatorship is.
If you're going to mince words, yes, it would be an Oligarchy.
If you're going to point out someone being incorrect, don't hinge it on a word. Its just silly.
On May 08 2011 08:00 Moonling wrote: He will still be streaming and listed on TL, As TL moderatino has pointed out the only reason he is not streaming is he is being stubborn trying to cause drama
Its also been pointed out its a bit of a bugger (due to how banned acounts work) to set a listed stream as going Live.
On to of that, I don't believe any PM IdrA would be sending to a moderator would be very nicely worded, given the current circumstances.
You can argue that he can spread when his stream goes live via other avenues like twitter, but I'm going to go out on a limb and propose IdrAs twitter doesn't get as much traffic as Teamliquid. IdrA has also stated on numerous occasions he's mostly streaming for the $$$ which I honestly don't hold it agaisnt him; its not like Pro Gamers are rolling in the benjamins.
Addendum: Huh, seems I snag first posts of next pages here too...
On May 08 2011 07:59 integrity wrote: wait so now we have to go 90days without streaming from idra?
(not really interesting in side taking)
He will still be streaming and listed on TL, As TL moderatino has pointed out the only reason he is not streaming is he is being stubborn trying to cause drama
He probably attracts 7-8K of his 15K viewers to the site just to watch his stream. Why would he do this for them?
There are plenty of games from IDra to talk about, but no FANCLUB... I think keeping it locked only makes it worse for you guys. Everyone has forget about this already
On May 08 2011 07:59 integrity wrote: wait so now we have to go 90days without streaming from idra?
(not really interesting in side taking)
He will still be streaming and listed on TL, As TL moderatino has pointed out the only reason he is not streaming is he is being stubborn trying to cause drama
But he is doing this with very good reason. Its like going on a hunger strike to prove a point. His stream has nothing to do with TL, so thousands of ppl are asking why does anything he says on his stream all of a sudden result in punishment?
And when the community wishes to talk about their favoriate player (the most popular player in SC2 America) we arent allowed anymore? 20,000 viewers is just a small portion of Idras support. It wouldnt surprise me if Idra has 50,000+ supporters. Once the rest of them find out whats going on here I can garuntee there is going to be a problem.
On May 08 2011 07:59 integrity wrote: wait so now we have to go 90days without streaming from idra?
(not really interesting in side taking)
He will still be streaming and listed on TL, As TL moderatino has pointed out the only reason he is not streaming is he is being stubborn trying to cause drama
But he is doing this with very good reason. Its like going on a hunger strike to prove a point. His stream has nothing to do with TL, so thousands of ppl are asking why does anything he says on his stream all of a sudden result in punishment?
And when the community wishes to talk about their favoriate player (the most popular player in SC2 America) we arent allowed anymore? 20,000 viewers is just a small portion of Idras support. It wouldnt surprise me if Idra has 50,000+ supporters. Once the rest of them find out whats going on here I can garuntee there is going to be a problem.
He wasn't banned for what he said on his stream, he was banned for what he posted in one of the IdrA threads on TL (calling CrunCher a waste of life).
On May 08 2011 08:19 Lightwish01 wrote: The SC2 News report I just saw broadcasted news coverage on this 'drama' and said that it was over something Idra said on his stream.
He was 2-day temp banned for calling CrunCher a "waste of life," then later 90-day banned after posting on his twitter that his fans should harass Chill about the ban (and later not apologizing, I assume).
On May 08 2011 07:13 Elpy wrote: Sigh. Idra's a great player but he's causing this himself and TL moderation have more than enough reason to ban him. Being a SC2 pro player doesnt mean he can say whatever he pleases.
No he isn't who the hell cares about a bit of swearing, trolling, it's what the internet is about.
If you're going to cry about someone calling you a faggot on the internet you need to man the fuck up and care a lot less.
On May 08 2011 07:39 Mactator wrote: Idra was banned for 90 days for encouraging harass and spam on TL on twitter. Oh well, who cares. Idra will get his opinions out in the air no matter what anyways. I guess TL is just defending Chill and using whatever means they have to annoy Idra, pretty much saying - we don't want you and your opinions here. Sad, since I actually liked TL before that ban but now you are just a bunch of arrogant people.
So he was banned for promoting people to effectively protest against the dictatorship. The Police don't stop people for promoting people to protest because it's a freedom you're given...
Hilarious. Clearly, you have no idea what a dictatorship is.
1 Person telling everyone what to do.
It's just which ever mod gets there first thinks he is the boss and if anyone disagrees with them then he they are all wrong
I can't tell if you're serious or not. No, a dictatorship does not consist of "a person telling everyone what to do." People in dictatorships don't have the option to leave. Nobody is forcing you to stay at TL.
If you're going to mince words, yes, it would be an Oligarchy.
If you're going to point out someone being incorrect, don't hinge it on a word. Its just silly.
This is even funnier. This is probably the first time in the history of the Internet that a website was described as an "oligarchy."
On May 08 2011 07:13 Elpy wrote: Sigh. Idra's a great player but he's causing this himself and TL moderation have more than enough reason to ban him. Being a SC2 pro player doesnt mean he can say whatever he pleases.
No he isn't who the hell cares about a bit of swearing, trolling, it's what the internet is about.
If you're going to cry about someone calling you a faggot on the internet you need to man the fuck up and care a lot less.
teamliquid cares about a bit of swearing and trolling i dont think this is the place for that
On May 08 2011 07:39 Mactator wrote: Idra was banned for 90 days for encouraging harass and spam on TL on twitter. Oh well, who cares. Idra will get his opinions out in the air no matter what anyways. I guess TL is just defending Chill and using whatever means they have to annoy Idra, pretty much saying - we don't want you and your opinions here. Sad, since I actually liked TL before that ban but now you are just a bunch of arrogant people.
So he was banned for promoting people to effectively protest against the dictatorship. The Police don't stop people for promoting people to protest because it's a freedom you're given...
On May 08 2011 07:44 Pwnographics wrote: I think Chill should just suck up his pride and give the community 20K Starcraft viewers what they want even if he's right.
Chill's pride is hurting the Starcraft community as a whole, and he needs to realise that. Do you want your pride to punish 20K viewers? Think about that Chill.
just because hes idra doesnt mean hes right
this isnt chill vs idra this is Team Liquid (staff) vs IdrA they talk over their decisions why would you think it was just chill
On May 08 2011 08:42 Jotoco wrote: I would like to ask Idra, Incontrol, DJWheat, JP, please, DO NOT discuss this ban on next weeks casts.
Let's all forget this and not fuel the fires, please?
Look at 14:55 - it has screencaps, proof etc. Get the real story.
There is only a screencap of the tweet, aside from that it is a bunch of random idra pictures from his fanclub. The voiceover is a "newscaster" spreading false information such as "was banned for saying something on his own stream".
If this is what people use for SC2 news, I guess we know where all the uninformed nonsense is coming from.
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