[TSL] Ro32 Day 4 Recap and Interviews - Page 10

On March 29 2011 14:38 xbankx wrote:


So disrespecting a "nobody" who is using the strength of their race is fair game? When idra was dominating with 1 supply 2 armor roaches was he bming himself "oh I am abusive 1 supply 2 armor roaches, I dont derserve all those wins"? I mean are all the zergs going mutas 3-4 month ago abusive? I seen Idra kill a lot of toss with mutas when it seemed op. Did he bm himself? Was he like "man I don't deserve this win because Im winning with this abusive build".

On March 29 2011 14:38 xbankx wrote:


So disrespecting a "nobody" who is using the strength of their race is fair game? When idra was dominating with 1 supply 2 armor roaches was he bming himself "oh I am abusive 1 supply 2 armor roaches, I dont derserve all those wins"? I mean are all the zergs going mutas 3-4 month ago abusive? I seen Idra kill a lot of toss with mutas when it seemed op. Did he bm himself? Was he like "man I don't deserve this win because Im winning with this abusive build".

On March 29 2011 14:41 tangwhat wrote:


I edited my post to clarify that I didn't think IdrA's disrespect was fair game, don't put words in my mouth please. How was going mutas abusive? People were beating it back then even when it first came out, that was an instance of bad diamond players not knowing how to play the game. Also if I recall IdrA has made reference to how easy it was to with 1 supply 2 armor roaches, not to mention that when he used to play protoss in beta he jokingly said that he lost all his BW skill because he had been playing too much protoss.

On March 29 2011 14:45 xbankx wrote:



Mutas 3-4 month ago dominated protoss before 6 gate timing was discovered. B.net forums/Teamliquid forums had a lot of threads of toss asking for help versus mutas play. GSL during that time(think it was GSL 2 or 3), toss had a 20-30% win percentage versus zerg. Litterally every zerg was going 2 base mutaling into 3-4 base ultra/ling or just mass mutas.

On March 29 2011 14:05 DyEnasTy wrote:
CrunCher's interview might just be my favorite from a foreigner ever...

On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
A hearty LOL at all of the IdrA fans coming in here to express their righteous outrage that CrunCher would dare take his well-deserved winners interview to call out his opponent for treating him like a speed bump in the run-up their series. All of the people dropping by to say "I hoped that CrunCher would've taken the opportunity to say what an honor it was to play IdrA and to then allocate a question of his interview to allow IdrA to plug his stream" need to remove the goggles and rejoin the real world. The world in which calling your opponent "a walkover" is an absurd insult, where telling your opponent he has no skill is ridiculous gamesmanship, and where predicting two four gate all-ins looks embarrassing when your opponent does nothing of the sort.

It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt.

On March 29 2011 14:49 tangwhat wrote:


Are you kidding me, a lot of those toss players were also diamond(or lower) players. Not to mention that that win percentage is really skewed when you had players like FD/NesTea/Check playing against random protosses who have disappeared off the face of the map after that GSL. There were clear skill differences in those games rather than "oh man these flying units are really imbalanced, I don't know how to get blink or make cannons or what a HT even is". 5/6 gate timing was the straw that broke the camel's back, it didn't single handedly make mutas unviable, before that timing was found players were handling just fine.

On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
A hearty LOL at all of the IdrA fans coming in here to express their righteous outrage that CrunCher would dare take his well-deserved winners interview to call out his opponent for treating him like a speed bump in the run-up their series. All of the people dropping by to say "I hoped that CrunCher would've taken the opportunity to say what an honor it was to play IdrA and to then allocate a question of his interview to allow IdrA to plug his stream" need to remove the goggles and rejoin the real world. The world in which calling your opponent "a walkover" is an absurd insult, where telling your opponent he has no skill is ridiculous gamesmanship, and where predicting two four gate all-ins looks embarrassing when your opponent does nothing of the sort.

It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt.

On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
A hearty LOL at all of the IdrA fans coming in here to express their righteous outrage that CrunCher would dare take his well-deserved winners interview to call out his opponent for treating him like a speed bump in the run-up their series. All of the people dropping by to say "I hoped that CrunCher would've taken the opportunity to say what an honor it was to play IdrA and to then allocate a question of his interview to allow IdrA to plug his stream" need to remove the goggles and rejoin the real world. The world in which calling your opponent "a walkover" is an absurd insult, where telling your opponent he has no skill is ridiculous gamesmanship, and where predicting two four gate all-ins looks embarrassing when your opponent does nothing of the sort.

It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt.

On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt.

On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:
You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2.