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shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
March 29 2011 05:08 GMT
#141
I am an IdrA fan.

I am upset he was knocked out of TSL3 by CrunCher.

I am not a fan of CrunCher's choice of strategy.

I am not a fan of his interview.

I hope I've expressed my discontent with this Protoss player in a calm straightforward manner.
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 05:10:17
March 29 2011 05:09 GMT
#142
Mondragon - Worst ZvT in Europe; beat top progamers (sea).

Although Idra had it coming, I would've liked Cruncher better had he not resorted to SS's before the matches and taking so many shots at Idra at every possible chance.

Oh and wth @ testie.
tangwhat
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand446 Posts
March 29 2011 05:09 GMT
#143
On March 29 2011 14:05 LesPhoques wrote:
Cruncher won me as a fan for being straight up honest dude without rage and having respect.
His words about IdrA cannot be said better lol


This doesn't even make any sense. CrunCher showed no respect whatsoever and his words about IdrA aren't even true? He's calling one of the foreigners with a lot of consistent success in both BW and SC2 as overrated while he himself is a random nobody with no achievements in WC3? I don't get how people are so in love with CrunCher or the kids who just want to see IdrA rage.
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 29 2011 05:10 GMT
#144
Any screenshots of Idra talkin trash between games?
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
March 29 2011 05:12 GMT
#145
I like Idra, but I also love Cruncher's interview.
I hate all people who complain about it as BM. Hey, guess what? No gg and "he'll be a walkover" is BM. I enjoy it all the same. ^_^ I think it's about time SC2 had some epic rivalries. After all, Idra left Korea, so no more Idra/Zenio.
darkness overpowering
(Spiff)
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada82 Posts
March 29 2011 05:12 GMT
#146
If it is not known already, in the kas vs Haypro recap, at the bottom it says NaDa 2-1 TLO instead of Kas 2-1 Haypro.
Great writeup tho!!!
Now, everyone in my house watches GSL. GO eSports :D
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
March 29 2011 05:13 GMT
#147
On March 29 2011 14:10 DyEnasTy wrote:
Any screenshots of Idra talkin trash between games?


From Cruncher himself. Here

LOL! He even changed his avatar on wcreplay forum.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
March 29 2011 05:15 GMT
#148
On March 29 2011 14:13 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 14:10 DyEnasTy wrote:
Any screenshots of Idra talkin trash between games?


From Cruncher himself. Here

LOL! He even changed his avatar on wcreplay forum.



Holy shit thats hilarious!
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
FanaTiker
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany27 Posts
March 29 2011 05:15 GMT
#149
stop trolling about idra and cruncher.
i just read that mondragon trained with testie, would love to see him too in some tounament.hopefully mondi gets into the nasl aswell cause his style was so refreshing.and that is say as protoss.
mondi hwaiting
Blondinbengt
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden578 Posts
March 29 2011 05:15 GMT
#150
On March 29 2011 14:07 syllogism wrote:
"Idra is extremely overrated and arrogant. If he isn't practicing 24/7, he is nowhere near being a good player"

Incredibly disrespectful coming from a nobody. Considering he has a final fantasy x signature on that wc replay forum, I guess he is just a child still


I think he has a point though, one of the problems with being a 100% mechanically focused player is that you need to keep your mechanics near a perfect level to win and that takes a lot of practice (though not as much in sc2 as in scbw, but still). A more strategically focused player (like Goody) can get away with less practice while still getting good results.
BuzzKerbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia46 Posts
March 29 2011 05:16 GMT
#151
On March 29 2011 14:00 GeorgeForeman wrote:
I don't get why everyone is hating on Cruncher. Idra said he would be a walkover, said he was a cheese-only player, and then proceeded to talk shit between games in the lobby. (There's screen shot evidence in the Live Report thread for those who don't want to believe.) If you beat a player who talked that much shit and then lost to you, all the while not showing you any respect, I think you're entitled to a good, hearty laugh when it's over. For chrissake, haven't you guys ever beaten BMers who talk shit on ladder? It's SUCH a great feeling!

If his worst crime is a little "", I think that's perfectly understandable. If Idra would just act like a professional and treat other people with a little respect, this kind of shit wouldn't happen to him.


Yeah and who knows how far this all goes back as well from ladder games, the interview is a bit cocky but it seems fully justified.

People are blowing it way out of proportion as if it sums up Cruncher's who character, we know what Idra is like based over a long period of time, this is just one interview under certain circumstances; I am sure this is the one and only occasion he would disrespect anyone like this.

Totally doubt he would do it to any other player or it will become a pattern, if it does he loses me as a fan.
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
March 29 2011 05:17 GMT
#152
All the Cruncher/Idra drama was quite funny and this interview was pretty entertaining, but I seriously hope that Mondragon will crunch Cruncher and show the power of the swarm.
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Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
March 29 2011 05:18 GMT
#153
IdrA earned his medicine there. He's got to eat his words and that's that.

However, Cruncher would do well to not let his mouth run too much, IdrA has beat him in tournaments and on ladder before and will probably do it again. What Goes around comes around, it came back to IdrA and will eventually make its way back to Cruncher.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
carbon_based
Profile Joined December 2010
United States46 Posts
March 29 2011 05:19 GMT
#154
cruncher really could've dug into idra more, he is overrated, he is arrogant, and he really does nothing that demands someone like cruncher's respect AT ALL. me and almost everyone reading this post should respect idra because he can beat you - bad - at something you care a lot about. the difference is that cruncher is on or at least near his level and can beat him - bad - at something he cares a lot about, and for idra to talk the kind of trash he did was extremely presumptuous and as it turns out, just laughable bravado because he got publicly SMASHED while wailing like a petulant little 12 year old.
http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/1830689/zugzwang
[Atomic]Peace
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States451 Posts
March 29 2011 05:20 GMT
#155
Mondragon is going to keep insisting on how bad he is all the way to the finals.... I really like his manner haha.
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MeatlessTaco
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States302 Posts
March 29 2011 05:20 GMT
#156
I think the whole Crucher-Idra thing shows a serious problem with SC2 and I have to agree with all the people defending Idra.

Clearly, Idra should have won. What we need is a different system. They still play three games, but a panel of judges should decide who the better player is, kind of like figure skating. That will prevent things like this in the future because if judges decide who won the match it will avoid travesties like this in the future and Idra will probably never lose ever again because he is so awesome. Having the result be dependent on who actually wins the game is unfair and I feel bad for Idra for having to lose to people so beneath him.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 05:21:48
March 29 2011 05:20 GMT
#157
On March 29 2011 14:15 Blondinbengt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 14:07 syllogism wrote:
"Idra is extremely overrated and arrogant. If he isn't practicing 24/7, he is nowhere near being a good player"

Incredibly disrespectful coming from a nobody. Considering he has a final fantasy x signature on that wc replay forum, I guess he is just a child still


I think he has a point though, one of the problems with being a 100% mechanically focused player is that you need to keep your mechanics near a perfect level to win and that takes a lot of practice (though not as much in sc2 as in scbw, but still). A more strategically focused player (like Goody) can get away with less practice while still getting good results.

He has to be, and indeed anyone else, completely clueless to say that, which isn't exactly surprising because he is just a nobody and didn't play BW. You flat out don't understand the game and zerg if you think he isn't "strategically focused". Goody is a terrible example as you might have a point if strategically focused meant all-innin randomly, which Goody particularly doesn't do and generally does the same builds every game. Terran is also the most flexible race.

Note that I'm a Goody fan, so not hating or him or anything
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
March 29 2011 05:20 GMT
#158
Cruncher isn't BM. He's putting someone who is EXTREMELY BM in their place. If anything he is a hero.


At the risk of going off topic that is horrendous logic. If someone steals my car it's ok for me to go and steal their car as it's not actually stealing I'm just putting them in their place?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
March 29 2011 05:21 GMT
#159
On March 29 2011 14:20 MeatlessTaco wrote:
I think the whole Crucher-Idra thing shows a serious problem with SC2 and I have to agree with all the people defending Idra.

Clearly, Idra should have won. What we need is a different system. They still play three games, but a panel of judges should decide who the better player is, kind of like figure skating. That will prevent things like this in the future because if judges decide who won the match it will avoid travesties like this in the future and Idra will probably never lose ever again because he is so awesome. Having the result be dependent on who actually wins the game is unfair and I feel bad for Idra for having to lose to people so beneath him.


*stands and claps*
xbankx
Profile Joined July 2010
703 Posts
March 29 2011 05:22 GMT
#160
On March 29 2011 14:02 tangwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 13:42 hitman133 wrote:
Cruncher is not a dick, IdrA was, is, and will always be a dick. I think I like Cruncher's interview here.


Yeah Cruncher isn't a massive douche for this interview, okay. It was amazingly disrespectful from a guy who popped up around the same time protosses figured out how to abuse the game. He's Silver 2.0 and if you can't tell the difference between IdrA's disrespect and CrunCher's disrespect then you are probably lacking in mental faculties.

To the people who somehow think what CrunCher said was warranted please realise that IdrA has proved over many years how good/consistent of a player he is. CrunCher in a nobody in WC3 and appeared out of nowhere here and is super cheesy on ladder as well, IdrA was extremely rude with how he put it yes I agree but CrunCher is being just ridiculous with this interview and all of you are letting your anti-IdrA emotions get in the way of appraising CrunCher.



I am intrigued on how Idra's BM is different from Cruncher's BM?
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