EPTOn March 29 2011 14:07 syllogism wrote: Considering he has a final fantasy x signature on that wc replay forum, I guess he is just a child still
What the fuck?
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
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kethers
United States719 Posts
I can understand the feeling of beating someone you don't like, but he makes the interview look like he's just trying to lord his e-penis over Idra, which I don't think he has any right to over a single BO3 game, and it makes him look like a gigantic douchebag. | ||
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WrentheFaceless
United States33 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
I don't know, judge it yourself http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/CrunCher1991/yunacruncher.jpg | ||
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ploy
United States416 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:22 xbankx wrote: I am intrigued on how Idra's BM is different from Cruncher's BM? Agreed. Saying that playing a particular person is the same as getting a walkover is pretty much as dirty as you can get when it comes to trash talk. I am sure it is our 'anti-IdRA emotions' getting in the way of our appraisal of the situation, and not your 'hot-for-IdRa emotions'. | ||
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:19 carbon_based wrote: cruncher really could've dug into idra more, he is overrated, he is arrogant, and he really does nothing that demands someone like cruncher's respect AT ALL. me and almost everyone reading this post should respect idra because he can beat you - bad - at something you care a lot about. the difference is that cruncher is on or at least near his level and can beat him - bad - at something he cares a lot about, and for idra to talk the kind of trash he did was extremely presumptuous and as it turns out, just laughable bravado because he got publicly SMASHED while wailing like a petulant little 12 year old. Ah yes IdrA with his long list of achievements is overrated versus someone like CrunCher(read: no achievements). People who like IdrA because of his BM/rage are children, the rest of us admire IdrA because when you watch him play and you watch the timings it's absolutely beautiful. Then we see someone like CrunCher who plays flavour of the month abuse and then thinks he's a legitimate player, the hypocrisy is overwhelming and the people who are defending CrunCher are delusional. IdrA's bm is different because he disrespects people like Silver/CrunCher(random nobodies who only achieve success based on how strong their race was at the time), he disrespects the way those guys play because it's abusive and comparatively easier to do than the way talented people play(read: Tyler). CrunCher's disrespect reeks of being a petulant child towards someone who has earned/proved his worth as a player over a long period of time. There's a subtle difference. I'm sorry that IdrA makes you so angry ploy, but some of us don't let our (probably rational) dislikes of people blind us to the flaws of others. I never said IdrA's BM is acceptable in any way, it's also rude and unacceptable but CrunCher really went above and beyond for being a massive douchebag. | ||
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cutler
Germany609 Posts
Kas is such a baller! btw Cruncher showing zero respect...sounds like someone wants to get known by bming like idra...hopefully he will be good mannered against his next opponent...and this will be mighty Mondragon :D | ||
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CatharsisUT
United States487 Posts
1. Idra seemed to go out of his way, even for idra, to talk about how terrible Cruncher was before they played. The TL interview, SoTG, he made it clear in no uncertain terms that he thinks Cruncher is terrible. The implication, obviously, is that idra is so great that they shouldn't even need to play the games. Idra continues his BM throughout their series, including in the lobbies between games. At this point, how would you react once you won? Wouldn't you want to put that punk in his place? I'm pretty sure I would. It's self-evident that Idra's bravado was ridiculous and misplaced; why shouldn't Cruncher defend himself and say as much? 2. This trolling is 100% a smart strategy to use against idra. You see this in all sports. If a center in a basketball game gets angry when he thinks he's getting fouled, you bang him all night. If he's whining to the refs, he's off his game. In the same way, idra has shown us that he has the emotional maturity of a second grader (and not one of the calm ones). If you were likely going to play him in the future, wouldn't you want to throw him off his game? I think cheesing him on the ladder is great. It's almost better if the cheese doesn't work, it still elicits a reaction. When the games started, idra was clearly devoting some of his brainpower to being angry at his cheesy noob opponent. That mental energy could have been better spent on preventing him from getting a 200/200 deathball. | ||
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:25 syllogism wrote: I don't know, judge it yourself http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb165/CrunCher1991/yunacruncher.jpg Ok, it seems you just don't get it. What the fuck has Final Fantasy X with being a child? | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:24 kethers wrote: Is it just me, or does Cruncher's interview come off as showing him as a huge troll? I can understand the feeling of beating someone you don't like, but he makes the interview look like he's just trying to lord his e-penis over Idra, which I don't think he has any right to over a single BO3 game, and it makes him look like a gigantic douchebag. He was basically speaking directly to Idra in that interview. So yes, he was being a troll since Idra was a huge douche to him up to and throughout the matches. And while it was "ONLY" a BO3 it was a pretty freaking important BO3 and in a tournament everyone wants to win. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:27 syllogism wrote: The ironic thing is Cruncher was doing the same thing in games 1&2, did the same voidray colossu builds against idra on justin.tv invitational (and lost, while playing terribly), and seems to do it all the time on ladder. What an extremely predictable player, wouldn't you say The irony is that Idra predicted two 4gates all in  | ||
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
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Proko
United States1022 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:25 WrentheFaceless wrote: Idra kinda had that one comming TBH, he showed Cruncher no respect in his pregame interview and BM'd him the whole match. He was a good player back in the day, but these days, his talk doesnt match his game. At the risk of looking like an IdrA fanboy let me just remind you that in the last year IdrA, won an MLG and went to GSL Ro8 (in addition to other respectable finishes). Since returning to America he beat Jinro in ace Match of the GCPL Bronze match and has like a 75% win ratio on ladder. I think IdrA is still doing fine. He was cocky and he lost to Cruncher and now he has to eat his words. IdrA deserves to be made fun of for that, but to say that IdrA is not performing well because he lost to Cruncher (after he won a single Bo3) doesn't compute. Especially since Idra 2:1'd Cruncher in a different league that same week. I'll say it again, congrats to Cruncher, he won, but he should be careful about how much he runs his mouth because what goes around comes around. It came back to IdrA and it will come back to him. | ||
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Blondinbengt
Sweden578 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:20 syllogism wrote: He has to be, and indeed anyone else, completely clueless to say that, which isn't exactly surprising because he is just a nobody and didn't play BW. You flat out don't understand the game and zerg if you think he isn't "strategically focused". Goody is a terrible example as you might have a point if strategically focused meant all-innin randomly, which Goody particularly doesn't do and generally does the same builds every game. Terran is also the most flexible race. Note that I'm a Goody fan, so not hating or him or anything Look at game 1, if you think Idra was playing strategically correct, then I have no clue what you are thinking. Sitting back and waiting while protoss gets a deathball going and then engaging said death on your own side of the map is just weird. I don't think anyone would deny that zergs have been having an extremely tough time dealing with protoss lately, but that doesn't make Idras decisions any better. When did I say that strategy was about randomly all-inning? The reason I picked Goody is because he is a low-apm, not-so-mechanical player who plays a style that is heavily focused on strategy and tactics, you don't need 300 apm to micro when you play a tank-based style, you need positioning and decision making. You can easily play the same opening every game and still be a strategical player, it comes down to what decisions you make, my gripe with Idras style from a strategical standpoint isn't that he does the same openings every game, it's that you can always predict what he is going to do. You can assume he is going to play the way that makes him the most safe while establishing an economy which makes it easy to do things like the 3 fast base build used by Jinro and Thorzain, what happened when Jinro did it against another zerg? He got baneling busted twice and lost, I just can't see Idra ever doing that. | ||
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PITN
New Zealand158 Posts
be interesting to see a rematch after this patch. | ||
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
Basically proves that you guys aren't quite the "thick-skinned" individuals you're always telling Idra's anti-fans to be. The best part is if you guys knew anything about Idra's progaming history you'd know that this kind of drama is going to keep happening over and over again. Get used to it. Oh and thanks to Idra and Cruncher for the entertainment, GG to both. Honestly Idra doesn't annoy me half as much as his 12 year old fanboys do. | ||
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
1) winning a bo3 means nothing 2) CrunCher has not a single achievement in SC2 compared to IdrA 3) CrunCher looked like a bronze leaguer in game 2 even though he said he was prepared 4) He won game 3 by abusing the lamest strat of the game BMing IdrA back is great and all that but it's very likely that IdrA will make him look like a bronze leaguer next time. | ||
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tangwhat
New Zealand446 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:35 Slow Motion wrote: I love how all of Idra's new SC2 fans are so quick to downplay his BM and immaturity and call it funny, but when someone does it back to him they cry so hard. Basically proves that you guys aren't quite the "thick-skinned" individuals you're always telling Idra's anti-fans to be. The best part is if you guys knew anything about Idra's progaming history you'd know that this kind of drama is going to keep happening over and over again. Get used to it. Oh and thanks to Idra and Cruncher for the entertainment, GG to both. Honestly Idra doesn't annoy me half as much as his 12 year old fanboys do. Don't generalise. Some of us don't enjoy it when IdrA talks shit - it detracts from the games and it attracts too many idiot children. | ||
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xbankx
703 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:25 tangwhat wrote: Ah yes IdrA with his long list of achievements is overrated versus someone like CrunCher(read: no achievements). People who like IdrA because of his BM/rage are children, the rest of us admire IdrA because when you watch him play and you watch the timings it's absolutely beautiful. Then we see someone like CrunCher who plays flavour of the month abuse and then thinks he's a legitimate player, the hypocrisy is overwhelming and the people who are defending CrunCher are delusional. IdrA's bm is different because he disrespects people like Silver/CrunCher(random nobodies who only achieve success based on how strong their race was at the time), he disrespects the way those guys play because it's abusive and comparatively easier to do than the way talented people play(read: Tyler). CrunCher's disrespect reeks of being a petulant child towards someone who has earned/proved his worth as a player over a long period of time. There's a subtle difference. So disrespecting a "nobody" who is using the strength of their race is fair game? When idra was dominating with 1 supply 2 armor roaches was he bming himself "oh I am abusive 1 supply 2 armor roaches, I dont derserve all those wins"? I mean are all the zergs going mutas 3-4 month ago abusive? I seen Idra kill a lot of toss with mutas when it seemed op. Did he bm himself? Was he like "man I don't deserve this win because Im winning with this abusive build". | ||
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