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On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2.
Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM.
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On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM.
Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it
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On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it
SO according you to, nobodies like us on forum and Cruncher deserves no respect from pro players because we haven't accomplished anything? So if Idra goes up to you and "spit on your face and call your mom a whore"(exaggeration) you would be like "oh yea sry I was in your way"?
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On March 29 2011 15:16 shinarit wrote:semi-balanceQQ: i hate protoss even more than before. WhiteRa made me hate it, and Cruncher pushes it even further. IdrA showed he is much better than his opponent, and still lost. (this is my opinion, no intention to arguing as i am a noob myself) Now who will stop MC? I dont like him, he is very good, protoss and has a big mouth  Also to tree-hugger: you dont understand the whole stuff, right? The post above me tells everything, i wont write it down. Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:
You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. So thats why i dont understand, how ppl can say it was OK wins. Crunchers voids and phenixes did literally nothing, in game1 idra had more army, more expansions, even good composition (corruptor + roach/hydra) and still lost. Now thats what i call wtf.
win is win, nothing wrong with that. Cruncher didn't cheat, IdrA let the protoss army get bigger, that's his fault.
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Cruncher interview and the Testie mention are the highlights of this post. Greatness.
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On March 29 2011 15:31 xbankx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it SO according you to, nobodies like us and Cruncher on forum deserves no respect from pro players because we haven't accomplished anything? So if Idra goes up to you and spit on your face and call your mom a whore you would be like "oh yea sry I was in your way"?
I also didn't say that and it's worth noting Cruncher did his pregame interview before he saw idra's. Nothing particularly wrong with Cruncher talking some trash after winning, but there's a line between outright lying (saying Idra is "nowhere near a good player when not practicing"), and just laughing at him for saying Cruncher would be a walkover
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On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it
What's the difference?
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On March 29 2011 15:34 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:31 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it SO according you to, nobodies like us and Cruncher on forum deserves no respect from pro players because we haven't accomplished anything? So if Idra goes up to you and spit on your face and call your mom a whore you would be like "oh yea sry I was in your way"? I also didn't say that and it's worth noting Cruncher did his pregame interview before he saw idra's. Nothing particularly wrong with Cruncher talking some trash after winning, but there's a line between outright lying (saying Idra is "nowhere near a good player when not practicing"), and just laughing at him for saying Cruncher would be a walkover
You think Idra would be considered a top player if he barely would practise?
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On March 29 2011 15:36 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:34 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 15:31 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it SO according you to, nobodies like us and Cruncher on forum deserves no respect from pro players because we haven't accomplished anything? So if Idra goes up to you and spit on your face and call your mom a whore you would be like "oh yea sry I was in your way"? I also didn't say that and it's worth noting Cruncher did his pregame interview before he saw idra's. Nothing particularly wrong with Cruncher talking some trash after winning, but there's a line between outright lying (saying Idra is "nowhere near a good player when not practicing"), and just laughing at him for saying Cruncher would be a walkover You think Idra would be considered a top player if he barely would practise?
He barely practiced at all during his last few months in korea and he was still doing well in GSL, so apparently so.
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Hahaha Love Cruncher's interview and I basically agree with everything he said regarding IdrA 
But I hope Mondragon beats him.
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cruncher is trying to get as much e-fame of this as possible.He reminds me of a poor version of zenio after he won zvz vs idra and showed 0 results afterwards
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On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it
Nobody? He just beat IdrA in a Bo3 in an important tournament, i think he has earned the right to at least talk back when shit on then, if you noticed he was really humble before the match.
As for game 1, yeah IdrA looked like the mechanicly better player, but Cruncher made better tactical decisions. The game is not just about mechanics, "probes and pylons" and building units and A1A2A3 into the opponent. Mechanincs are probably the most important part but not the only one.
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On March 29 2011 15:39 DND_Enkil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it Nobody? He just beat IdrA in a Bo3 in an important tournament, i think he has earned the right to at least talk back when shit on then, if you noticed he was really humble before the match. As for game 1, yeah IdrA looked like the mechanicly better player, but Cruncher made better tactical decisions. The game is not just about mechanics, "probes and pylons" and building units and A1A2A3 into the opponent. Mechanincs are probably the most important part but not the only one.
That's pretty arguable because it looked to me like he did an opening that didn't work and then moved his ball around until he hit 200/200 and then a-moved
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On March 29 2011 15:39 DND_Enkil wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 15:27 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 15:26 xbankx wrote:On March 29 2011 15:15 syllogism wrote:On March 29 2011 14:51 tree.hugger wrote:
It's clear that IdrA didn't do any research on CrunCher besides his ladder games, which explains why he was convinced in his interview that CrunCher four gates constantly when any follower of CrunCher knows that he favors exactly the opposite. It's clear that IdrA has learned nothing from any of his plethora of embarrassing losses over his career. This happens again and again and yet IdrA keeps treating his peers like dirt and keeps reaping the rewards for his callousness. If you're going to be an IdrA fan, you better take your head out of the sand and start noticing this trend so you can anticipate it when it happens and stop mucking up Team Liquid when you go on tilt. You realize Idra didn't play in any of the games like someone who was expecting a 4gate? That was just pregame trashtalking. Moreover, Cruncher did the same build against him in justin.tv invitational , though it's not quite clear which games were played first. Cruncher's builds were incredibly standard protoss builds and his air openings did literally zero damage, putting idra way ahead in games 1 and 2. Oh wow, I guess we can also say that Cruncher is just doing "post-game" trashtalking. Trashtalking is the same as BM. Sure, I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't bad mannered, and I've no idea why you would think I did, though there's a difference when a nobody does it and when a someone who has established himself as a good player does it Nobody? He just beat IdrA in a Bo3 in an important tournament, i think he has earned the right to at least talk back when shit on then, if you noticed he was really humble before the match. As for game 1, yeah IdrA looked like the mechanicly better player, but Cruncher made better tactical decisions. The game is not just about mechanics, "probes and pylons" and building units and A1A2A3 into the opponent. Mechanincs are probably the most important part but not the only one.
Like what?
Idra was completely out macroing him the entire game. Cruncher just sat passively until he got his deathball and rolled over everything zerg had. Going void ray and collosi...Cruncher's a genius. Cant wait till he runs into a terran, I'm not surprised he says he wants to face zerg players.
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I've been quite a fan of CrunCher for awhile now... I'm not sure why he wasn't noticed before. He was actually the North American representative at BlizzCon this year for War3. He tower rushed both his games and said he was practicing SC2 now. Im glad he's doing well
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Nobody? He just beat IdrA in a Bo3 in an important tournament, i think he has earned the right to at least talk back when shit on then, if you noticed he was really humble before the match.
So in other words he is just like one of those sad battle.net ppl who spam trash at u after they've won or insta ignore you if they dont.
Btw its actually quite pathetic that he is trying to leech as much fame from Idra as possible, very transparent. Acting like a true noname, using every little opportunity to promote himself
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I would like to get losers interviews aswell! Especially idrA's : )
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hmmm so according to idra fans outmacroing your oponent the entire game and not winning is anything but your fault. just because his opening didn't exactly cause dmg it made idra spend money preparing for air..crunchers opening was therefore BETTER. And props for giving idra a little bit of rage back at him an pissed he would be is deliciously evild the thought of owning idra knowing how
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On March 29 2011 15:54 slip. wrote:
hmmm so according to idra fans outmacroing your oponent the entire game and not winning is anything but your fault. just because his opening didn't exactly cause dmg it made idra spend money preparing for air..crunchers opening was therefore BETTER. And props for giving idra a little bit of rage back at him an pissed he would be is deliciously evild the thought of owning idra knowing how
But if you actually watched the game, idra was way ahead after the opening as he only had to make a few spores and queens to be completely safe and then just drone up and expand freely
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