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JunC
Canada80 Posts
thanks for the resources in the thread, OP, i will definitely have a look at them | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
On January 10 2012 19:00 Escoffier wrote: can anyone tell me why you pronounce the first of the final double consonants in 몫대, making it pronounced like "목데", but normally, in other final double consonants, you generally pronounce the second consonant, making 닭대 sound like it's pronounced "닥대" ? is there some rule or do I have to memorize all the exceptions There's no rule (that I've found). It's case-by-case and annoying. | ||
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Kokujin
United States456 Posts
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mblaq_si
Great Britain19 Posts
Best thing is to get a phrase book. This is how Im learnt korean: First I watched korean dramas, this is good for conversation and pronounciation. Iv picked up the language and can understand some korean without subtitles. Secondly,I suggest learning the hangul characters, downloading the hangul keyboard app was extremely helpful. . Also frequently use rosseta stone (it teaches the language using picture association). Lastly, but if you want to increase your vocab-listen to kpop and learn it. | ||
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stablol
United States82 Posts
On January 11 2012 09:54 taemin_jjang wrote: Yh i know ! Google translate gives you the wrong translation! Best thing is to get a phrase book. This is how Im learnt korean: First I watched korean dramas, this is good for conversation and pronounciation. Iv picked up the language and can understand some korean without subtitles. Secondly,I suggest learning the hangul characters, downloading the hangul keyboard app was extremely helpful. . Also frequently use rosseta stone (it teaches the language using picture association). Lastly, but if you want to increase your vocab-listen to kpop and learn it. jonghyun is better than taemin lolol | ||
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B.I.G.
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mblaq_si
Great Britain19 Posts
My korean freinds teach me informal korean( and they help me with my pronounciation, which is so much better than any internet or book resources. =D P.s dont use skype, seriously there are alot of freaky weirdos I.e pedo's. If you want to practise your korean just ask your korean friends at school/uni...Good luck. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
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520
United States2822 Posts
On January 11 2012 10:11 B.I.G. wrote: just a quick (noob) question, but what would be the informal form of 합니다 ? for some reason i cant find it :/ I think it would just be 해. | ||
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[Agony]x90
United States853 Posts
Yup. Also, I wanted to add that in general, you should avoid learning vocabulary conjugated in honorific (습니다). It's a lot more useful to learn the dictionary form (다) and to learn the proper way to conjugate it from there. As a rule of thumb, to figure out what the informal form is, take the dictionary form, conjugate it to formal (어요/아요) form and then just drop the 요. I suggest learning/thinking this way because then you learn the two most commonly used conjugation forms at once. | ||
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SoraLimit
Canada747 Posts
On January 11 2012 09:26 Kokujin wrote: One thing ive come to realize is google translate is actually terrible for translations. Only use it for pronunciations! And memorize the korean keyboard layout ASAP, by doing this you learn how to type and how to read at the same time. Much more efficient than learning from a book. Here's the keyboard layout. I agree with this. Both my French and Japanese teacher have said that google translate, as well as any other translator like it should only used for words and very small sentences, not full on sentences. | ||
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Escoffier
United States120 Posts
On January 10 2012 20:36 kestry wrote: TL Name: kestry What you know: Konglish  (Pororo level vocab. Korean speaking level is not very good. And writing is 똥. Recently leveled up reading speed to be a bit faster than a 5 year old. Goals: Fluency! Increase vocabulary.... Want to be able to have natural conversations with my boyfriend and his Korean friends.  And understand TV shows and SC2 commentators and would be nice to use Naver for my questions and recipe needs. Hi, learnkorean.com has a nice and quick breakdown of the pronunciation rules on Lesson 1-3. (complex final consonant excerpt): NB) Final consonant clusters: ㄳ, ㄵ, ㄶ, ㄺ, ㄻ, ㄼ, ㄽ, ㄾ, ㄿ, ㅀ, ㅄ Except for ㄺ, ㄻ, ㄼ, ㄽ, ㄾ, ㄿ, ㅀ (ones with ㄹ placed befre another consonant), when followed by another consonant or nothing, the second consonant of the cluster becomes silent. This second consonant will come alive when there is a vowel after it. 값 = kap "price" 값 + 과 = kap kwa "price and" 값 + 이 = kapsi "price (with a subject particle)" No, I was told by a native speaker that there are some exceptions to that rule. re-read my post for an example | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On January 11 2012 09:54 taemin_jjang wrote: Yh i know ! Google translate gives you the wrong translation! Best thing is to get a phrase book. This is how Im learnt korean: First I watched korean dramas, this is good for conversation and pronounciation. Iv picked up the language and can understand some korean without subtitles. Secondly,I suggest learning the hangul characters, downloading the hangul keyboard app was extremely helpful. . Also frequently use rosseta stone (it teaches the language using picture association). Lastly, but if you want to increase your vocab-listen to kpop and learn it. You can only imagine how frustrated I get when my wife tries to use google translator for long Korean paragraphs because she doesn't want to tell me in English. I'm gradually learning more and more Korean, but mainly I do it on my own because my wife doesn't like teaching me. Every now and then I ask her to explain some words or help me with pronunciation, but most of my learning is self taught. | ||
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Baobab
Korea (South)153 Posts
On January 11 2012 09:54 taemin_jjang wrote: Yh i know ! Google translate gives you the wrong translation! Best thing is to get a phrase book. This is how Im learnt korean: First I watched korean dramas, this is good for conversation and pronounciation. Iv picked up the language and can understand some korean without subtitles. Secondly,I suggest learning the hangul characters, downloading the hangul keyboard app was extremely helpful. . Also frequently use rosseta stone (it teaches the language using picture association). Lastly, but if you want to increase your vocab-listen to kpop and learn it. Can you (or anyone else) recommend a good Korean drama? I'd like to start watching, but have no idea what's good, and I'd rather not watch some soap opera-type thing :/ | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
http://www.learnlangs.com/RWP/Korean/Korean - Lesson 1.htm it has exercises for each character it introduces, so you can build on what you know. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
On January 11 2012 10:48 [Agony]x90 wrote: Yup. Also, I wanted to add that in general, you should avoid learning vocabulary conjugated in honorific (습니다). It's a lot more useful to learn the dictionary form (다) and to learn the proper way to conjugate it from there. As a rule of thumb, to figure out what the informal form is, take the dictionary form, conjugate it to formal (어요/아요) form and then just drop the 요. I suggest learning/thinking this way because then you learn the two most commonly used conjugation forms at once. good tip, thank you very much. as i understand the honorific form is not uused when speaking? | ||
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mblaq_si
Great Britain19 Posts
On January 11 2012 19:54 Baobab wrote: . Can you (or anyone else) recommend a good Korean drama? I'd like to start watching, but have no idea what's good, and I'd rather not watch some soap opera-type thing :/[/QUOTE] okay, let me think......the ones iv watched in the summer were secret garden. I insist you watch city hunter ...so daebak!!! its got action, spy, crime etc. your gonna love it! And its not a soap/opera drama. (p.s this post isnt off topic since i learnt quite a lot of conversational korean phrases from that drama =D. example: oppa, beh go-pah-yo= oppa im hungry omo ottokae'' = omg, what do i do ''oppa joahe= i like you bollayo= i dont know chongmal= really ? | ||
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Left4Cookies
Denmark803 Posts
I learned to read/write Korean on www.BusyAtom.com. There's also a lot of grammar stuff on that site, but I only used it for Hangul. Highly recommended since he's extremely methodical and repeats himself a lot, which is really the only way you can learn it. I would love to get the chance to talk with others in Korean, since my main (current) main motivation is that I'm going to Korea this summer, and I can only imagine that even though you spend hours and hours on learning the language, you'll still need training actually using it before it turns out good.. TL Name: Left4Cookies Real name (optional): Thomas Skype: khaine775 How are you fluent: I can read/write Hangul and speak minimal Korean. My main problem is a total lack of a vocabulary. What help are you willing to offer: A few hours a day. | ||
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Baobab
Korea (South)153 Posts
On January 12 2012 03:05 taemin_jjang wrote: Can you (or anyone else) recommend a good Korean drama? I'd like to start watching, but have no idea what's good, and I'd rather not watch some soap opera-type thing :/ okay, let me think......the ones iv watched in the summer were secret garden. I insist you watch city hunter ...so daebak!!! its got action, spy, crime etc. your gonna love it! And its not a soap/opera drama. (p.s this post isnt off topic since i learnt quite a lot of conversational korean phrases from that drama =D. example: oppa, beh go-pah-yo= oppa im hungry omo ottokae'' = omg, what do i do ''oppa joahe= i like you bollayo= i dont know chongmal= really ? [/QUOTE] Thanks, that sounds great actually, I'll check it out | ||
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
One of the most annoying things about Korean are the different kinds of romanization. The official Korean one, the McCune-Reischauer, the Yale one. Sometimes I read a romanized word and don't know what the heck it's supposed to mean or how it's supposed to be pronounced without knowing which romanization is being used. They should really come up with a spelling that makes sense. ex. 부산 is pronounced Pusan yet spelt Busan in the official Korean transcription. It's a system made for foreigners to be able to pronounce Korean terms so why not make it easy for them? <.< | ||
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