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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 09 2012 23:57 GMT
#121
what u said would be completely wrong and would sound weird to them but they would still get what u meant

좋아요 means 'i like' more than it means 'good'
why so 진지해?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#122
On January 10 2012 07:11 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 13:55 Froadac wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:21 Seeker wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:06 Froadac wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:53 Seeker wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:31 Froadac wrote:
Would anybody be up for skype chat sometime in next few weeks?

The Korean coaches? Or the ppl who want to learn?

Haha. Figuring both.

I can probably make it. What time are we looking at?

Availability based. I'm out of town this weekend, was thinking sometime next week(end)

Any update on when this thing's gonna happen Froadac?

Waiting on more responses.

tt
Kaladin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States88 Posts
January 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#123
This might be a stupid question but is there anywhere I could buy korean keycaps for a mechanical keyboard? I have a Razer Blackwidow (cherry blue) if that matters. I would get stickers but the blackwidow has huge font on the keys so i don't think the stickers would work very well as the letters would overlap.
Me all in. Him drone drone drone. Me win. -MC
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 01:20:52
January 10 2012 01:16 GMT
#124
On January 10 2012 09:42 Kaladin wrote:
This might be a stupid question but is there anywhere I could buy korean keycaps for a mechanical keyboard? I have a Razer Blackwidow (cherry blue) if that matters. I would get stickers but the blackwidow has huge font on the keys so i don't think the stickers would work very well as the letters would overlap.

dont bother dude, srsly. I printed out an image of korean keyboard layout, used for about 2 hours and then i knew it by heart. Ofc with some trial and error but the lay-out is actually really logical and easy to remember after you used it a couple of times..

on another note, does anyone know this site: http://www.koreanclass101.com/? Ive heard some good things about it, like that it has apps and audio lessons to use on the go, as well as some dialog videos for intermediate learners to pracctice listening to korean as it is spoken IRL, rather then the way the teachers would speak to you (slow, extra pronounciation etc.). However, I dont know if its any good and worth signing up for? (they say its free but i can imagine they have some pay to use content).

Edit: If noone knows about the site i'll be the guinea pig and report back here
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
January 10 2012 02:46 GMT
#125
hi!!!!!!
TL Name: theNessman
Skype: xmungam
What you know: i took a korean class over the summer but ended up forgetting a lot ;_; . so i know how to read and basic grammar, but my vocab is near 0
Goals: I want to increase my vocabulary and try to engage in some real conversations!

Feel free to message me on skype!
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
Tanner
Profile Joined October 2010
United States38 Posts
January 10 2012 03:37 GMT
#126
TL Name: Tanner
Real name (optional): Tanner
Skype: tanner-peterson
What you know: Very little. I'm currently in korean 102. I know 아요/어요 conjugation of verbs and a bunch of random verbs/adjectives.
Goals: Become fluent!
Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
January 10 2012 04:04 GMT
#127
On January 10 2012 10:16 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 09:42 Kaladin wrote:
This might be a stupid question but is there anywhere I could buy korean keycaps for a mechanical keyboard? I have a Razer Blackwidow (cherry blue) if that matters. I would get stickers but the blackwidow has huge font on the keys so i don't think the stickers would work very well as the letters would overlap.

dont bother dude, srsly. I printed out an image of korean keyboard layout, used for about 2 hours and then i knew it by heart. Ofc with some trial and error but the lay-out is actually really logical and easy to remember after you used it a couple of times..

on another note, does anyone know this site: http://www.koreanclass101.com/? Ive heard some good things about it, like that it has apps and audio lessons to use on the go, as well as some dialog videos for intermediate learners to pracctice listening to korean as it is spoken IRL, rather then the way the teachers would speak to you (slow, extra pronounciation etc.). However, I dont know if its any good and worth signing up for? (they say its free but i can imagine they have some pay to use content).

Edit: If noone knows about the site i'll be the guinea pig and report back here


I like it actually. Podcasts are nice to listen to on the bus/train or just whenever. The hosts are entertaining. You can also just sign up for an account and download everything in the first 7 days, so you don't have to pay/subscribe if you don't want to.
No one ever remembers second place, eh? eh? GIVE ME COMMAND
stablol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 04:51:01
January 10 2012 04:38 GMT
#128
On January 10 2012 08:57 Rekrul wrote:
what u said would be completely wrong and would sound weird to them but they would still get what u meant

좋아요 means 'i like' more than it means 'good'

yep.
thats ok to start
its like when people speak broken english, still understand. thats ok to start out with to me, but i'd still like to know the correct way ofc.
and ye just like "sounds good" - 좋아~
On January 10 2012 10:16 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 09:42 Kaladin wrote:
This might be a stupid question but is there anywhere I could buy korean keycaps for a mechanical keyboard? I have a Razer Blackwidow (cherry blue) if that matters. I would get stickers but the blackwidow has huge font on the keys so i don't think the stickers would work very well as the letters would overlap.

dont bother dude, srsly. I printed out an image of korean keyboard layout, used for about 2 hours and then i knew it by heart. Ofc with some trial and error but the lay-out is actually really logical and easy to remember after you used it a couple of times..

on another note, does anyone know this site: http://www.koreanclass101.com/? Ive heard some good things about it, like that it has apps and audio lessons to use on the go, as well as some dialog videos for intermediate learners to pracctice listening to korean as it is spoken IRL, rather then the way the teachers would speak to you (slow, extra pronounciation etc.). However, I dont know if its any good and worth signing up for? (they say its free but i can imagine they have some pay to use content).

Edit: If noone knows about the site i'll be the guinea pig and report back here

ive seen it before, it seems like www.talktomeinkorean.com but less friendly and easy to use. i would recommend ttmik over any other similar site
보아 사랑해요 짱
RGnt
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Finland100 Posts
January 10 2012 06:41 GMT
#129
Dunno if you ever finished Rosetta stone discussion. Main reason someone disses Rosetta stone is their earlier version, and 2nd most common is that they don't know from where to find resources that helps you read hangeul words (there is word list under help.) Also you can turn haengul off for beginning parts.

Over all the approach rosetta stone takes it is possibly best software for studying language from ground up. But then again it doesn't fit for people who can't use certain organ of theirs or don't actually buy the software and doesn't bother to look around the software for information (which is usually found from the manual no one reads either).
Nhatn: my guide names » i just think about what i want to do to ur children » np
mtvacuum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States979 Posts
January 10 2012 08:33 GMT
#130
On January 10 2012 10:16 B.I.G. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 09:42 Kaladin wrote:
This might be a stupid question but is there anywhere I could buy korean keycaps for a mechanical keyboard? I have a Razer Blackwidow (cherry blue) if that matters. I would get stickers but the blackwidow has huge font on the keys so i don't think the stickers would work very well as the letters would overlap.

dont bother dude, srsly. I printed out an image of korean keyboard layout, used for about 2 hours and then i knew it by heart. Ofc with some trial and error but the lay-out is actually really logical and easy to remember after you used it a couple of times..

on another note, does anyone know this site: http://www.koreanclass101.com/? Ive heard some good things about it, like that it has apps and audio lessons to use on the go, as well as some dialog videos for intermediate learners to pracctice listening to korean as it is spoken IRL, rather then the way the teachers would speak to you (slow, extra pronounciation etc.). However, I dont know if its any good and worth signing up for? (they say its free but i can imagine they have some pay to use content).

Edit: If noone knows about the site i'll be the guinea pig and report back here


I use both koreanclass101 and TTMIK and suggest you use both as well. TTMIK is great for learning common grammar points while koreanclass101 provides a realistic dialogue to study in each lesson and helps develop vocabulary related to certain situations, while TTMIK kinda just introduces new vocab randomly.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
January 10 2012 09:11 GMT
#131
TL Name: Silentness
Real name: Matt
What you know: I know basic Korean and I can hold small conversations with strangers.
Goals: Become fluent in Korean so I can understand my wife when she curses at me in Korean. Also her mom loves me to death so it would be great to actually have a deep conversation with her one day. Also how many black people do you know that are fluent in Korean haha?

I'm always down for answering any questions if it's basic Korean or any culture related questions. Learning Korean would be a really rewarding experience. I always feel happy when I have a conversation in Korean to Korean people and I don't have to say it two or three times because I either pronounced it wrong or my western accent flooded my speech.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
Escoffier
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
January 10 2012 10:00 GMT
#132
can anyone tell me why you pronounce the first of the final double consonants in 몫대, making it pronounced like "목데", but normally, in other final double consonants, you generally pronounce the second consonant, making 닭대 sound like it's pronounced "닥대" ?

is there some rule or do I have to memorize all the exceptions
kestry
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4 Posts
January 10 2012 11:36 GMT
#133
TL Name: kestry
What you know: Konglish (Pororo level vocab. Korean speaking level is not very good. And writing is 똥. Recently leveled up reading speed to be a bit faster than a 5 year old.
Goals: Fluency! Increase vocabulary.... Want to be able to have natural conversations with my boyfriend and his Korean friends. And understand TV shows and SC2 commentators and would be nice to use Naver for my questions and recipe needs.

Hi, learnkorean.com has a nice and quick breakdown of the pronunciation rules on Lesson 1-3.

(complex final consonant excerpt):
NB) Final consonant clusters: ㄳ, ㄵ, ㄶ, ㄺ, ㄻ, ㄼ, ㄽ, ㄾ, ㄿ, ㅀ, ㅄ

Except for ㄺ, ㄻ, ㄼ, ㄽ, ㄾ, ㄿ, ㅀ (ones with ㄹ placed befre another consonant), when followed by another consonant or nothing, the second consonant of the cluster becomes silent. This second consonant will come alive when there is a vowel after it.

값 = kap "price"

값 + 과 = kap kwa "price and"

값 + 이 = kapsi "price (with a subject particle)"

dearyuna
Profile Joined December 2011
United States322 Posts
January 10 2012 20:52 GMT
#134
TL Name - dearyuna
Real name (optional) - yuna
Skype - yunafishy
How are you fluent - pretty fluent. Korean background.
What help are you willing to offer - I'm not very proactive in the sense to design lessons or give formal grammar lessons, but can answer general questions.
@dearyuna Team SCV Life <3
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
January 10 2012 22:59 GMT
#135
i have seen Destiny and ToD on the korean realm.

why is it written 데스티니 instead of 뎃티니
and why is it 토드 instead of 톧 ?

How do you decide if you need the second consonant with ㅡ or just write it in the single syllable?

thanks
Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
January 10 2012 23:01 GMT
#136
On January 11 2012 07:59 ZwuckeL wrote:
i have seen Destiny and ToD on the korean realm.

why is it written 데스티니 instead of 뎃티니
and why is it 토드 instead of 톧 ?

How do you decide if you need the second consonant with ㅡ or just write it in the single syllable?

thanks


wow,im korean and i never thought of things like this before
hi
ZwuckeL
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany563 Posts
January 10 2012 23:05 GMT
#137
On January 11 2012 08:01 Benga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 07:59 ZwuckeL wrote:
i have seen Destiny and ToD on the korean realm.

why is it written 데스티니 instead of 뎃티니
and why is it 토드 instead of 톧 ?

How do you decide if you need the second consonant with ㅡ or just write it in the single syllable?

thanks


wow,im korean and i never thought of things like this before


but there must be some kind of rule right? i ve often seen the single syllable with ㅡ where it could be added to the character before
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 10 2012 23:32 GMT
#138
On January 11 2012 08:05 ZwuckeL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 08:01 Benga wrote:
On January 11 2012 07:59 ZwuckeL wrote:
i have seen Destiny and ToD on the korean realm.

why is it written 데스티니 instead of 뎃티니
and why is it 토드 instead of 톧 ?

How do you decide if you need the second consonant with ㅡ or just write it in the single syllable?

thanks


wow,im korean and i never thought of things like this before


but there must be some kind of rule right? i ve often seen the single syllable with ㅡ where it could be added to the character before

Yeah, I see it a lot too... I guess it's because the ending consonants are more emphasized in english than korean? not sure..
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Tanner
Profile Joined October 2010
United States38 Posts
January 10 2012 23:33 GMT
#139
On January 11 2012 07:59 ZwuckeL wrote:
i have seen Destiny and ToD on the korean realm.

why is it written 데스티니 instead of 뎃티니
and why is it 토드 instead of 톧 ?

How do you decide if you need the second consonant with ㅡ or just write it in the single syllable?

thanks


When a consonant comes last (batchim 받침) it makes a different sound. Like how you put 뎃 that would be said the same as 뎃, 뎆 , and so on ('det' romanized) so it would be dettini instead of desutini or tot instead of todu.
ㄱ, ㅋ, ㄲ Batchims have the ㄱ sound value
ㄴ has ㄴsound value
ㄷ, ㅅ, ㅈ, ㅊ, ㅌ, ㅎ, ㅆ have ㄷsound value
ㄹ has ㄹ sound value
ㅁ has ㅁ sound value
ㅂ and ㅍ have ㅂsound value
ㅇ has ㅇ sound value (ng when batchim)
They have a slight pronunciation difference they are batchims.
SoraLimit
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada747 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-11 02:29:08
January 10 2012 23:44 GMT
#140
On January 11 2012 07:59 ZwuckeL wrote:
i have seen Destiny and ToD on the korean realm.

why is it written 데스티니 instead of 뎃티니
and why is it 토드 instead of 톧 ?

How do you decide if you need the second consonant with ㅡ or just write it in the single syllable?

thanks


I'm not sure if this is correct, but with the second option for both, the ㅅand ㄷ would have a "t" sound, which is different to what it sounds like if it was in the beginning of the syllable, which would sound even less like the original. (De-seu-ti-ni vs Det-ti-ni).
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