EPTOn July 07 2011 06:54 SanDokaN_X wrote:
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We're aware. Some identifers can still be found like 0 scouting and 30 second lapses where the hacker just stares at his cc, but it does make confirmation much harder. Thank you.
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
We're aware. Some identifers can still be found like 0 scouting and 30 second lapses where the hacker just stares at his cc, but it does make confirmation much harder. Thank you. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On July 07 2011 06:54 SanDokaN_X wrote: Can I make slight offtopic? New maphacks have an integrated camera lock system, so this gives the hacker an opportunity to look at his opponents base without his camera being saved in the replay. Even selecting a building in fog of war is not visible in the replay. There are also observer tabs which show everything from income to APM, and this makes even more difficult to track the hacker. Man, I wonder how many hackers I've already played with. :/ So, with hacks getting more and more undetectable, its likely that now there are a sh*tload of douchebags hacking freely without being detected. It's only up to the hacker if he makes something dumb like countering you perfectly or looking at your army at fog of war. Just saying. Hope that Blizzard improves their Warden system and catch these motherf*ckin lamers. It's kinda tempting to know your a google search away from getting a hack, so thats the reason there is a surprising amount of hackers. Blizzard should also sue the multiple hacking forums, which so far, as I can see, are left untouched. There are a lot of videos in Youtube, but I'm not going to post the link. Hope I don't get banned for this though.  We've got our methods.  You won't get banned for being informational. You'd likely get a slap on the wrist if you did post anything that would link to a hack or something, but as long as youre note like LOOK GUYS AT THIS SWEET DROPHACK _LINK_ Then you're okay. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
I hope some of them are FOW and production hacks instead of all drophacks. Not that I condone hacking in any way, but at least there's something we can do about the others. It feels like drophackers will be a 95% blizzard issue. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On July 07 2011 12:14 mkfuba07 wrote: I was away from the interwebs for about 7 days, and there are 8 more pages to go through o.O I hope some of them are FOW and production hacks instead of all drophacks. Not that I condone hacking in any way, but at least there's something we can do about the others. It feels like drophackers will be a 95% blizzard issue. don't get your hopes up. | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:30 wolfhead wrote: Server: NA My name: wolfhead Hacker name: pingon Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/7429 Description: During the FFA called out my fast expansion without actually scouting... frequently scans over the players' bases. I came here just to see if someone else mentioned Pingon. This guy is one of the most blatant hackers I've ever seen. You can be on a 6-person map and he will worker rush cross-position straight to your base without scouting. He doesn't even try to hide the fact that he can see everything you do. | ||
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Adam4167
Australia1426 Posts
On July 07 2011 04:19 gogatorsfoster wrote: This guy is an obvious hacker he reacted to every army movement without even scouting the terran main base. He blind countered your early aggression which doesn't prove anything but with all of the other things he did blindly throughout the game make it pretty obvious. The drops and the muta`s are what make it most obvious to me. He blindly resets his rally points to where the drop is taking place, and the 20:52 muta intercept is pretty ridiculous. I would say its just a coincidence if it happened once but this guy did stuff over and over again blindly Agreed. Watching him play in the early game i couldnt help but ask.. why would you open roaches on shakuras plateau against a terran? the only thing thats going to work against is hellions. Then theres the many drop intercepts which pretty much sells me on it, this guy is a hacker. | ||
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B4_WheeL
Lithuania47 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On July 03 2011 15:38 Sif_ wrote: yea, what made me post this is that i read on the LagHack thread on general sc2 forums is that these new hacks have a feature that locks camera, so on the replay he is staring at his base but in reality he could be staring at mine..that would explain the banshee blind reaction and the ninja drop right as i leave... I don't feel like he was hacking. A few things that I noticed: + Show Spoiler + 1) You both scouted at almost the exact same time. After the initial scouts, neither of you knows anything about the enemy until about 6:30, when you scan, and he moves his reaper into your base. 2) His reaper sees a few marines, and a single hellion. I'm no pro, so correct me if I'm wrong, but that's strong indication of banshees. Also, throughout almost the entire game he has sight of your ground path to his base (because of the reaper). If he has nothing to fear from the ground, and he has reason to suspect banshees, I see no problem with him moving his marines to the back of his base. 3) Just as a thing to note - while it is possible to lock the screen while scouting the map through FOW, you can usually tell if someone is doing this because they'll idle on some section of their base for an abnormally long time, and their APM will greatly fluctuate. Of course, a good hacker would be aware of this and account for it, but actual attention to one's base is somewhat difficult to replicate while focusing on something else. | ||
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Phamut
36 Posts
let me know if replay upload didnt work, never uploaded a replay to anything before, map hacker, admitted to it, told me what i was doing without scout and replay shows him looking at my base through fog of war. name : Imbagay server : EU map hacker | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On July 09 2011 02:22 Phamut wrote: [url blocked] let me know if replay upload didnt work, never uploaded a replay to anything before, map hacker, admitted to it, told me what i was doing without scout and replay shows him looking at my base through fog of war. name : Imbagay server : EU map hacker Despite the fact this is obvious proof, please follow the format. It's even there in the OP "Will be ignored unless following the format" | ||
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Phamut
36 Posts
On July 09 2011 02:28 arb wrote: It's even there in the OP "Will be ignored unless following the format" apologies, Server: Eu Your Name: Phamut Hacker Name:ImbaGay Replay: [url blocked] Description: admits to hacking at start of game, tells me what im doing and where i spawn without scouting, looks through fog of war during replay. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
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esReveR
United States566 Posts
My name: esReveR Hacker name: anGryBiRD Replay: I apologize I didn't save the replay of him dropping me, but his match history is pretty blatant proof. Description: Dropped me 9 seconds into the game about 2 weeks ago. I've been watching his match history and he has recent wins such as a 30 second win over TT1, and a 2:30 minute win over JF in which he mined a grand total of 75 minerals. All of his wins are a similar story. He's been losing on purpose trying to hide it a little, but many of his losses are him leaving about a minute in; until the last few days where he has been losing actual games (not surprising considering his MMR is GM level now). His match history speaks for itself. | ||
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SlimeBagly
356 Posts
My Name: SlimeBagly Hacker Name: Elevaded Replay: [url blocked] Constant looking through fog of war at key targets. When confronted with evidence, he admitted and called it his "smurf" account. | ||
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morethentom
United States20 Posts
Your Name: Morethentom 771 Hacker Name: Krazel Replay: http://www.2shared.com/file/88-lg1Er/2011-07-10The_Shattered_Temple.html Description: Cannon rushes me on Shattered Temple without scouting and repeatedly moving camera over my base while there was no game information to suggest where I might be. This strange camera movement continues throughout the game. Also at around 4:25 game time he tries to preemptively hide an incoming probe by the gold base from my zealot with no knowledge it was coming. Edit: Iccup.Diamond is over at my place at the moment and agrees this is a map hacker. | ||
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TL AntiHack
39 Posts
On June 24 2011 02:30 PowerDes wrote: Reporting on a guy who posted on the bnet forums behalf. Server: NA Hacker Name: dEaSUnG Replay: http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=details&id=216943 Description:+ Show Spoiler + Very very very consistent panning, no scouting at start, blind counters spire, etc. Very blatant. He blind counters spire tech and constantly has a positional advantage without prerequisite scouting information. His version of a normal scouting routine is attack moving his entire army right into an unscouted base//enemy force and being repeatedly lucky over and over. He spies his opponents army through the fog of war multiple times, notably at 18 minutes and 20:30 countering incoming mutalisks with perfect and unorthodox hydra placement. A map hacker could only be so good so frequently without scouting. On June 22 2011 11:04 RedTerror wrote: Server: North America Your Name: RedTerror [random - zerg] Hacker Name: Bstallion [zerg] Replay: http://drop.sc/15712 Description: + Show Spoiler + Very obvious map hack 0:10 changes overlord direction towards my base, it stops at the edge of his base in a strange location, (he doesn't scout all game) 1:50 my pool goes down 2:15 his pool goes down 2:33 he moves his overlord out of the way of my overlord even though its in the Fog of War so far just strange behavior 2:47 pans down to my base through FoW(note he hasn't encountered a single unit of my yet, he doesn't even know what race I am) 3:08 another pan to my base 3:20 my overlord arrives at his base, now he knows what race I am and where I spawned 4:14 pan to my base 5:00 starts spine crawlers in his natural, note this is his first combat units - 5 game mins in and with no idea what I have 6:00 masses spine crawlers (5) he eventually gets 12 - I am going for a 2 base roach ling all in 6:08 glances at my roaches through FoW, even though they were misrallied and were in a weird location 6:44 FoW glance at main 7:59 FoW glance at my base 9:49 FoW glance at my army moving at him 11:00 FoW glance at my natural 11:58 glance at a group of overlords in the middle of map I attack and of course it gets stopped as he has 12 spinecrawlers + lings and queens 14:30 he pushes out with roaches, note this is the first time ANYof his units has left his corner of the map later on he finds my hidden expo after attack moving to another one first. It's as the man says. Lots of looking at his base through the fog of war without moving any units to the location and lots of blind counters. Towards the end he sends all his roaches to the top left base first so it isn't as blatant when he discovers the hidden expo. But you can't hide looking through the fog of war more than half a dozen times. Map hack. mjwShyK(Multiple entries, confirmed) + Show Spoiler [BEVRzrBlader's report] + On June 25 2011 04:34 BEVRazerBlader wrote: I played an opponent in a high level game today, he played extremely suspiciously. Server: Europe Your Name: BEVRzrBlader Hacker Name: mjwShyK Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replay-videos/6779 Description: + Show Spoiler + He is clearly map-hacking to have vision. Firstly he does a fairly risky build, 1rax (fe) without scouting at all. He does not make any turrets, or scan at all. He does a very good counter to my build. He never gets any of the xel-nagas at this point. He is frequently looking at my base through the fog and my army just out side, again through the fog. He responds well to every banshee and drop I do, as soon as i get ready to land a CC, he stims marines to snipe it. He has no vision of the map at all until 17minutes in. Where without seeing an expo there, he sets tanks up and stims marines at one at one of my expansions. Throughout the game, he does many other suspicious things such as perfectly timed scans in tank wars (when i leap my tanks foward as I have a superior Viking count). Thank you I'm including RedJustices excellent summary. It coincides perfectly. + Show Spoiler + On June 25 2011 15:26 RedJustice wrote: Watched from mjwShyK's perspective and made notes: + Show Spoiler + 0:22 - Looks through fow for a moment at your base. Weird, but not a very long look. 2:25 - Another quick look through fow, this time at the barracks building. 2:50 - Strange he looks very quickly right at the top of his ramp as the scv comes up it. Again maybe just suspicious. 5:19 - Takes a peek at what you are building at the top of your ramp. 5:23 - Looks at your factory/starport. 6:18 - Looks at the ramp in your natural, where one marine is coming out to scout. 6:50 - Takes a look at the push coming across the middle of the map. 8:20 - Has a look through your whole base again. 8:32 - Another look at the natural, where he sees vikings and immediately throws up some missile turrets. 9:10 - Scans your army perfectly as it moves across the middle of the map. No reason in the world to scan there without knowing units were there. 9:34 - Moves his marines down to the bottom of his natural, away from the ramp, to intercept your army. 13:00 - As soon as your army pulling back, he unsieges to reposition his tanks, transfers his svcs back, and sends one to build a third, without ever actually seeing your army leave. 13:19 - Checks the ramp of your natural. 13:47 - Checks your army moving across the middle of the map. 14:00 - Checks army again through fow. 14:14 - Checks army again... 14:27 - Looks at your natural. 14:31 - Army... 16:05 - Army... 17:33 - Army... 17:42 - Looks at the banshee headed towards his third, and sends marines to intercept it. 19:22 - Army... 21:19 - Looks at banshee headed towards his main. 21:50 - Army... 22:13 - Takes a look at the CC headed out of your base, and send units to intercept it. 24:09 - Army... 25:18 - Sends the remaining two tanks to your third without having scouted the expansion there. 25:22 - Looks at your main. 27:23 - Army... 27:35 - Takes a look at the small force in your natural. 27:43 - Looks at the units below your third. 29:03 - Army... 30:00 - Looks at the two CCs building in your fourth. ... 30 more minutes that I don't feel are really necessary to watch. I'd say pretty blatant FOW map hax. + Show Spoiler [Saafen's report] + On June 26 2011 00:33 Saafen wrote: Server: Europe Your Name: Saafen Hacker Name: mjwShyk Replay: http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/4e05fd77e40f9_mjwShyKVsSaafen(MapHack).SC2Replay Description:+ Show Spoiler + Hes clearly maphacking. I even asked him -> "How did you know, maphacking?" He then response with -"no I scouted" -"burrow?" -"yes". Watched the rep, no burrow. When watching in First Person, its clearly hes MapHacking. Again, as RedJustice diligently details: + Show Spoiler + On June 26 2011 05:29 RedJustice wrote: From mjwShyk's POV: + Show Spoiler + 1:47 - Peek at your base. 3:32 - Has another look in your base. 5:25 - Has a kind of suspicious look at the reaper which is right off the edge of his vision. 6:50 - Looks at your base and the bunker building at the natural. 7:12 - Sends lings straight to the two reapers in his third. Suspicious. 7:29 - Checks your CC floating to the natural, and army moving out. 7:35 - Checks natural again. 7:50 - Checks natural... 8:22 - Sends lings to intercept the reaper headed to the third. Suspicious. 8:28 - Checks natural... 8:36 - Natural... 8:48 - Natural... 9:05 - Natural... 9:46 - Natural... 10:07 - Natural... 10:21 - Checks base and then a missile turret building on the left side of the main. 10:54 - Checks your army moving out. 11:15 - Sends army to third, and checks army again. 11:26 - Moves army down ramp into units he can't see. Very well timed when you are out of position, no reason to attack that position without knowing army was there. 13:04 - Checks natural. 13:46 - Checks army moving out. Map haxxxxx. :D Two very obvious reports. Dead on the money RedJustice. Obvious map hacking. On June 25 2011 05:35 Hummingb1rd wrote: Suspicious... Server: North America Your Name: Hummingbird.656 Hacker Name: iCarly Replay(s): http://drop.sc/16076 http://drop.sc/16077 http://drop.sc/16078 Description:+ Show Spoiler + Game 1, somehow finds my only proxy, on a map where you usually wouldn't scout there? Still dies to DTs however... (shows a mismatch between starsense and gamesense?) Game 2, finds proxy again, while scouting no other proxy locations. Senses contain and rushes medivacs without seeing it (?) idk. Other actions were suspicious. Game 3, scouts cross instead of close air first. Drops bunker as soon as I get second rax, recycles as soon as my natural CC goes down. Other stuff too... I'm sure there's many stuff I missed, but take a look at the three replays because it felt highly suspicious. Also, note that I'm a random player, and his sim citying vs randoms without scouting... *Please ignore the BM traded btw, he was trolling me in a chat channel forever so I told him a BO5 to settle it haha. + Show Spoiler + Thanks! Game 1: He doesn't look at your base through the FOW and scouts you last. Then he takes his reaper on the most circuitous route possible and finds your proxied shrine. He builds an ebay around the same time your shrine goes up. It's unlikely but possible. (Even if it's on TDA) Game 2: He takes a pretty big risk not walling against random. At 6:50 he looks through the FOW at your base but he's not seeing anything that wasn't there before. As far as the pylon scout goes, it was in an extremely common place, part of a routinely scouted area. He proceeds to get his ass kicked for making blind viking and not ghosts. Game 3: Again, nothing that isn't implausible. After being cheesed the first game he built a bunker against you in case of an all in then recycled it when it wasn't coming. I'm afraid there just isn't enough to need more review. On June 25 2011 08:06 holyvenom wrote: Server: NA Your Name: holyvenom Hacker Name: toolegit Replay: http://drop.sc/16085 Description: + Show Spoiler + First off, I haven't played a 1v1 in ages, and I barely have played 2v2 recently, so that's why I played so terribly in this game. I figured I was so close to victory I just kept plugging away. Anyway, I became suspicious after the match when I was thinking about it - around 6 minutes in I decide to send in one quick non-cloaked banshee to maybe do some damage and force some spores. I scan just before going in and he has 5 spores making. In his vision he's looking through the FOW and hasn't seen anything in my base yet other than my CC - he looks into my base and sees the Starport finishing with the Tech Lab and immediately builds an Evo. There are plenty of other moments when he's looking through the FOW (like at 25 mins), but there's nothing really obvious until about 29 minutes, where I send in a massive drop and he sends a bunch of lings back to his base once I move out. Finally, at the end, I move my main CC down to theexpo defended by 2 pairs of rocks and he looks there through the FOW and immediately sends his lings to break down the rocks. What it lacks in the multitude of fog of war looks, it makes up for in effectiveness. He never scouts the starport but he builds 10 blind spores. Hmm. There were way too many FOW looks without any possible justification and he reacts to what he cannot see. Confirmed map hacking. On June 26 2011 06:06 imareaver3 wrote: Server: NA Your Name: Retep Hacker Name: Apples Replay: http://drop.sc/16175 Description:+ Show Spoiler + This guy didn't look like he was hacking to win (Although he gets a really odd BO win; who 10-pools on TDA blindly?), but still--look at what he says a few seconds into the game. It's my sc2ranks profile--wins/losses, and points, accurate to when the game was played. He had APM while saying it; the message was somehow automatically generated. Weird. SC2ranks:http://sc2ranks.com/us/463388/Retep This goes under "Your opponent does something that seems to not make sense." from the list of Not evidence for hacks. There isn't any evidence of hacking. It's strange that he pulled up your profile information but that isn't a hack as far as I know. This is a replay showing a build order win with no evidence of any illicit software involved. No evidence. On June 26 2011 18:18 Maetl wrote: Server: NA Your Name: Maetl Hacker Name: Wsuppp Replay: http://drop.sc/16360 & http://drop.sc/16361 Description: + Show Spoiler + First replay: Constant FoW looking, perfect counter builds, suspicious spotting of a hidden expo. Second replay: more FoW looking. Previously confirmed hacker. I'll post this now, have a quick break and keep plowing through. More updates to come tonight! | ||
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PaPoolee
United Arab Emirates660 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Don't request bans, just file reports please. There is no problem with mentioning there is a person on TeamLiquid with the same tag. Will edit this post with writeup. 6:45 he salvages his bunker in the low ground a builds two more on the high ground while building turrets. He didn't just blind counter DTs, He blind countered a 4 gate or any other early aggression too. Logical explanation? No expansion. 9:50 intercepts blink stalkers with gosu timing. I don't see enough evidence. He is surprised by warp prisms twice and at the end push, isn't moving his army in synch with yours when it's out of vision. When I say I don't see enough evidence, I mean I only see one non subjective moment, when he intercepts the blink stalkers before they appear. I don't know if there could have been a que that I missed, I welcome everyone to look at this replay. But at the time I would ask that additional replays be submitted for it to be reconsidered. | ||
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
On July 13 2011 06:02 PaPoolee wrote: Server:EU Your Name: PaPoolee Hacker Name:JediGamer Replay: http://drop.sc/19318 Description: He cancels bunker after opponent goes twilight council tech route and builds several turrets without scouting the twilight council/shrine and pre-emptively moves to the edge of the base to stop blink stalker aggression! my friend sent me this replay and told me about him as he played him on ladder and I thought I should post it here! oh and he also has a TL account that should be banned too! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=JediGamer Are you INSANE? I was streaming that game....watch other games of mine. First off, I've lost to that build from Krolu not once but 2x b4. He can't beat me in a macro game so he does that. 2nd off, WHEN I SCAN -HIS WARP GATES WERE LATE. WARP GATES ARE ONLY LATE DURING DTS WHEN U TAKE 2 FAST GAS UNLESS IT IS STARGATE WHICH DIDNT HIT ME SO I SALVAGE BUNKER. edit: Thanks probe... and the blink stalkers surprised me, didnt expect that. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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