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Hello, all! It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully. Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil. Thanks, Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST. | ||
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Huckleuro
United Kingdom294 Posts
If i came on here telling someone they were a waste of life, I'd be banned. Idra came on here and was abusive... he was banned. I'm not sure what their is to argue about? He was approached regarding his inciting of people to message Chill and he showed 0 (and was probably obnoxious, though i don't know) remorse. Well played TL. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On May 09 2011 05:47 Scriptix wrote: Chill posted himself that people were sending them to him...so... seriously? did chill post some pms somewhere? are people really that retarded`? hope evryone got banned for life... | ||
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Zerkaszhan
Canada120 Posts
On May 09 2011 05:46 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: tbh i have no problem with how players act. sometimes i like it, sometimes i dont. in the end its entertaining and brings "flavor". believe me you dont want old korean like " i will work harder to beat my amazingly skilled opponent" comments all the time. but i also think evrything was dealt with perfectly fine by TL staff here. imo players should be honest and outspoken.but if that violates rules of a 3rd party then deal with the punishment. thats all there is to it for me. Exactly it adds flavor but this isn't about a match this is about how players are acting outside of a game | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
On May 09 2011 05:41 Roffles wrote: Pretty sure you can still manage stream stuff while you're banned. Set it live, set it offline, change all that other stuff that's stream related. I've done this numerous times before. Ok, thank you.  | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
Now, with that said, consider all the times IdrA has been banned with the justification that "he's not stupid, he knew what he was saying/doing". For example, during the WeRRa scandal, IdrA posted something like "Oh, that's too bad. Seeing the WeRRa tag was a good way to know you were getting all-inned". People could have easily given him the benefit of doubt that he meant that literally, but many went on to accuse him of hiding inappropriate sexual innuendos in that statement, since "IdrA's not dumb, he knew what he was implying". Another example would be right now, when mods are saying that even though IdrA didn't explicitly say on his twitter, "Hey guys, I got banned, PM and harass the shit out of Chill to get revenge for me!", his actual twitter post implied exactly that, since IdrA isn't stupid; he knew exactly what he was trying to accomplish. Now let's look at CrunCher. He's not stupid either - he knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he was messing around on IdrA's stream. He knew it would generate controversy, and he knew it would piss off IdrA. Essentially, he was consciously trolling. Why do we always assume the worst for IdrA, and not CrunCher, who we all know doesn't exactly have the best relationship with IdrA? Even though CrunCher didn't explicitly break any rules, just as we assumed IdrA "isn't dumb, and knew what he was doing" as part of the justification (note that I don't say that it's the ENTIRE justification - obviously, part of the punishment is motivated on how IdrA isn't willing to apologize and shows no regret after he was asked directly if he'd change his etiquette) for a good deal of his bans, why don't we assume that CrunCher "isn't dumb, and knew what he was doing" (deliberately trolling)? As far as I know, trolling is also punishable bad etiquette. If you hit IdrA with something as big as 90 days, it feels like CrunCher should get a bit of a punishment too, even if as a mere symbolic gesture. | ||
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
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Nazarid
United States445 Posts
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GertHeart
United States631 Posts
It's a community League, and Nazgul is the owner, check what country the guy is from. He's NOT from the US. No need to bring up "Freedom of Speech" and all this nonsense. I enjoy Idra's stream, and the mods did what they had to do, he's been warned so many times, look at the list. He's been banned for 30days before o.o; During the "great depression" I'm sure =P He'll live, he'll be back, and you'll all survive. Don't just be a blind fanboy. If Idra doesn't stream he doesn't. Finally, I've lurked here a while and finally got myself an account. I have to say something about the mods here. These are probably the BEST mods available here compared to any forum out there. They are FAR more fair than any other place, yeah they make some calls that might be "Meh" sometimes, but much less than any judicial system in the world. Gj mods, much appreciate you guys. And read the rules guys =/ saying "I'm going to get banned for this" or even the middle ground for it Is grounds for banning 'Martyr'ing' isn't acceptable. | ||
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dogabutila
United States1437 Posts
On May 09 2011 04:44 mr.reee wrote: A lot of bold, honorable assumptions about cruncher formed out of thin air. Exactly. Why minimize instead of close? Why not keep the archive of the stream? Esp given cruncher is like 2-40 against idra? Why does cruncher say "lol so obvious what he would do" when its quite obvious that he can't normally keep up? For everybody saying all the evidence points to cruncher NOT cheating.....there IS no evidence pointing to cruncher not cheating. All of the evidence points to him cheating, but none of it shows conclusively. Still, if you take everything into account it's quite obvious what was going on. | ||
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FinBenton
Finland870 Posts
On May 09 2011 05:53 vasculaR wrote: I like Idra from a spectator point of view. He is a solid player and he adds excitement (can't wait to watch the next drama unfold, lol) to the game. However, he really should grow up and act less immature. To each his own, I guess. Mayby he just cant do that? MANY genious people are really bad in social stuff and you have to understand that they cant do nothing about it. | ||
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HadeCiaoAminakoyum
Germany80 Posts
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aquanda
United States477 Posts
Although I wish he would, I seriously doubt he will continue to stream nearly as much as he did before. If I had just gotten banned for 90 days for insulting someone who trolls me 24/7, the last thing I would want to do is support the website. Unfortunate that TL was put into such a tough position, but I guess you can only deal with so much for so long. | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
On May 09 2011 05:58 dogabutila wrote: Exactly. Why minimize instead of close? Why not keep the archive of the stream? Esp given cruncher is like 2-40 against idra? Why does cruncher say "lol so obvious what he would do" when its quite obvious that he can't normally keep up? For everybody saying all the evidence points to cruncher NOT cheating.....there IS no evidence pointing to cruncher not cheating. All of the evidence points to him cheating, but none of it shows conclusively. Still, if you take everything into account it's quite obvious what was going on. innocent until proven guilty seems most applicable here | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
Overboard IMO. | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
He may be famous, but it's like this thread publicly exploits the humility or something. Maybe it's because someone was bound to make a thread about it anyway, lol.. I do like IdrA, but wish he would tone it down a notch. XD | ||
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0001001000
8 Posts
stop giving him attention. hes a waste of life the more you talk about him the longer it takes for him to go away. " It really shouldn't be very difficult for me to compile an extensive list of posts worst than these on TL. Worse things are routinely said on this site on practically a daily basis. Heck, I'm sure even mods have said worse things than calling someone a "waste of life" at one point or another. Idra was banned because he is Idra. And that's really all there is too it. User was warned for this post | ||
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taLbuk
Madagascar1879 Posts
On May 09 2011 06:00 HadeCiaoAminakoyum wrote: idras days are over, he does not play good enough simply Eh? he's pretty much been destroying lately. doubt this ban will effect his actual play, but we'll see soon enough | ||
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ShootingStars
1475 Posts
On May 09 2011 06:00 zeru wrote: How does the replay show that he was cheating in even a tiny little way? Please do explain. Listening to random hearsay isnt exactly any evidence.... Does a replay have to show evidence that he was cheating in the replay? Sometimes people cheat and lose, you know... because knowing Cruncher, he does not have as much experience as Idra, so Idra's mechanics can be said to be superior. If you look at the other evidence, it says something, but it's not conclusive. | ||
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Scriptix
United States145 Posts
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