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Hello, all!
It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.
Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.
Thanks,
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On May 09 2011 05:34 RyanRushia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I posted this in the fanclub, but since it seems that a lot of the mods are reading this thread, I thought I'd ask here.
If he chooses to continue streaming his games, how will IdrA's stream work for the next three months? Can he still set his channel to live by himself, or would he need someone to do it for him? Someone else said there's an option to have TL scan if your stream is live and then set your TL channel live. Is this option a reality?
And before someone jumps on me for not reading the OP, I'm not asking if he can stream or not, I'm asking the specifics of how his channel will appear in the sidebar, and how the channel will be set to live.
Thanks. :p chill quoted before that pro players are still allowed to straem, and that his stream will remain Featured, so i'm under the impression that there will be zero difference as to how he streamed last week and how he will now that he's been banned for three months. therefore it should remain on the sidebar as featued under Live user streams: as it has been
If that's true, I am satisfied. Thank you TL!
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On May 09 2011 05:27 Zerkaszhan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:19 Vindicate wrote:On May 09 2011 05:14 zeru wrote:On May 09 2011 05:13 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Personally i think cruncher should fo been punished as well as he is intentionally aiming after idra like a 14 year old kid i think he should be punished for actively trying to make idra rage knowing full well how he reacts i dont think idra would of said anything if cruncher wasnt after him about everything to me it looks like idra is the kid that works hard and has some outbursts and cruncher being the kid that doesnt get punished for doing bad things and gets the other kid in trouble all the time but overall i agree with the ban idra has received since it did go overboard i don't always agree with the moderation on this site but it seems to work Stream sniping is nothing new, and nothing bad. No, but but stream sniping so you can cheat your opponent for the sole purpose of riling him up and causing trouble is immature and a needless generator of grief. I might have been able to accept that Cruncher just wanted to play IdrA if he had used IdrA's stream to get into the game, then turned it off. Instead Cruncher left the stream on and used it against his opponent. That's low, unethical even. Sure it's just the ladder but I personally think Cruncher's attitude is deplorable. IdrA's too, for that matter, for making such a deal out of this. thats the point i was trying to make Cruncher is at much at fault as idra since he started this it takes two to tango and the fact that idra wouldn't of said anything unless cruncher was being a dick on purpose ever since "  " he has been trying to get idra in more trouble.
You forget that Idra called him a "Walkover" before the game, then thrash talked him in the pre-game chat as well... Hell i would have done ALOT more than "" if i was Cruncher.
I really like IdrA as a player, but i just can't stand his immature bullshit all the time. Good move C
hill <3!
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The rules are the rules. This is 100% justified.
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On May 09 2011 05:21 Drowsy wrote:
That banlog is downright impressive. I really don't like Chill tbh, but Idra's complete lack of professionalism is an embarrassment to starcraft 2 progaming. The western scene needs to understand: You are not a bunch of teenagers playing games anymore, this is your job and you need to behave like adults.
If sponsorships from big entities like MLG and IGN are to continue, the scene needs to be mature and civil. As of now, it's barely a step up from wow-nerds. Bashing somebody's play is fine, but insulting them personally over work/a game is unacceptable.
Agreed 100%. The lack of social skills of some of the current SC2 players is downright embarrassing.
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On May 09 2011 05:38 Rabbitmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:27 Zerkaszhan wrote:On May 09 2011 05:19 Vindicate wrote:On May 09 2011 05:14 zeru wrote:On May 09 2011 05:13 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Personally i think cruncher should fo been punished as well as he is intentionally aiming after idra like a 14 year old kid i think he should be punished for actively trying to make idra rage knowing full well how he reacts i dont think idra would of said anything if cruncher wasnt after him about everything to me it looks like idra is the kid that works hard and has some outbursts and cruncher being the kid that doesnt get punished for doing bad things and gets the other kid in trouble all the time but overall i agree with the ban idra has received since it did go overboard i don't always agree with the moderation on this site but it seems to work Stream sniping is nothing new, and nothing bad. No, but but stream sniping so you can cheat your opponent for the sole purpose of riling him up and causing trouble is immature and a needless generator of grief. I might have been able to accept that Cruncher just wanted to play IdrA if he had used IdrA's stream to get into the game, then turned it off. Instead Cruncher left the stream on and used it against his opponent. That's low, unethical even. Sure it's just the ladder but I personally think Cruncher's attitude is deplorable. IdrA's too, for that matter, for making such a deal out of this. thats the point i was trying to make Cruncher is at much at fault as idra since he started this it takes two to tango and the fact that idra wouldn't of said anything unless cruncher was being a dick on purpose ever since " " he has been trying to get idra in more trouble. You forget that Idra called him a "Walkover" before the game, then thrash talked him in the pre-game chat as well... Hell i would have done ALOT more than " " if i was Cruncher. I really like IdrA as a player, but i just can't stand his immature bullshit all the time. Good move C hill <3!
True but cruncher gets basically no flak while idra gets all of it i dont think thats fair to Idra even if he does say things. i dont think Cruncher Should get off scott free without even a warning
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On May 09 2011 05:39 Gokey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:21 Drowsy wrote:
That banlog is downright impressive. I really don't like Chill tbh, but Idra's complete lack of professionalism is an embarrassment to starcraft 2 progaming. The western scene needs to understand: You are not a bunch of teenagers playing games anymore, this is your job and you need to behave like adults.
If sponsorships from big entities like MLG and IGN are to continue, the scene needs to be mature and civil. As of now, it's barely a step up from wow-nerds. Bashing somebody's play is fine, but insulting them personally over work/a game is unacceptable. Agreed 100%. The lack of social skills of some of the current SC2 players is downright embarrassing.
They are hardcore computer nerds what did you expect of them?
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On May 09 2011 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I posted this in the fanclub, but since it seems that a lot of the mods are reading this thread, I thought I'd ask here.
If he chooses to continue streaming his games, how will IdrA's stream work for the next three months? Can he still set his channel to live by himself, or would he need someone to do it for him? Someone else said there's an option to have TL scan if your stream is live and then set your TL channel live. Is this option a reality?
And before someone jumps on me for not reading the OP, I'm not asking if he can stream or not, I'm asking the specifics of how his channel will appear in the sidebar, and how the channel will be set to live.
Thanks. :p
Pretty sure you can still manage stream stuff while you're banned. Set it live, set it offline, change all that other stuff that's stream related. I've done this numerous times before.
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jesus fuckin christ! tl mods are such crybabies, why would u ban idra??! when cruncher was the one who cheated, THIS IS ***ING BS!!
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 09 2011 05:40 Zerkaszhan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:39 Gokey wrote:On May 09 2011 05:21 Drowsy wrote:
That banlog is downright impressive. I really don't like Chill tbh, but Idra's complete lack of professionalism is an embarrassment to starcraft 2 progaming. The western scene needs to understand: You are not a bunch of teenagers playing games anymore, this is your job and you need to behave like adults.
If sponsorships from big entities like MLG and IGN are to continue, the scene needs to be mature and civil. As of now, it's barely a step up from wow-nerds. Bashing somebody's play is fine, but insulting them personally over work/a game is unacceptable. Agreed 100%. The lack of social skills of some of the current SC2 players is downright embarrassing. They are hardcore computer nerds what did you expect of them?
manner,
this is SC afterall....
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On May 09 2011 05:41 DjSweetBazz wrote:
jesus fuckin christ! tl mods are such crybabies, why would u ban idra??! when cruncher was the one who cheated, THIS IS ***ING BS!!
except that theres zero proof cruncher cheated?
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On May 08 2011 06:51 diverzee wrote:
Ridiculous way of enforcing something bad just out of spite. This is not national law, it's just a forum. Would be way better to actually think of the fans and at least stick to the original 2 days.
User was warned for this post
So it's ok to send death threats/harass over a video game forum? Because that's basically what happened. I think TL took the appropriate actions, and they shouldn't regret it. Idra has many times been told about his behavior and chooses to not change it. Hopefully one day he will learn. I just want the drama to end >.<
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On May 09 2011 05:41 DjSweetBazz wrote:
jesus fuckin christ! tl mods are such crybabies, why would u ban idra??! when cruncher was the one who cheated, THIS IS ***ING BS!!
Sigh. dude your gonna get banned now
keep the convo civil and also they banned him for saying inappropriate things and telling people to PM chill
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On May 09 2011 05:01 iokke wrote:Not sure about current ban situation, but judging from this history... http://i.imgur.com/cULBN.jpgif he keeps breaking the rules I would remove his stream from the list for a couple of weeks. He benefits directly (monetarily) from TL but keeps disrespecting the rules and admins. Without a feature on TL he would have less viewers and maybe reconsider his posting a bit. On the other hand, this would also hurt the viewers which I guess is unfair.. Imho couple of weeks to serve as a warning wouldnt hurt TL viewers a lot, but I may be wrong and I guess it's nice to see that TL cares enough about viewers not to remove the stream list (especially when he uses this stream to encourage spamming etc). In the end, in my opinion Idra should be a lot more respectful given how much TL gives him
Holy crap. The OP should have a link to this one picture, and by itself that picture will say enough about this whole situation.
Then again this is the internet and I'm pretty sure there will still be people out there who will cry foul.
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On May 09 2011 05:42 Scriptix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2011 06:51 diverzee wrote:
Ridiculous way of enforcing something bad just out of spite. This is not national law, it's just a forum. Would be way better to actually think of the fans and at least stick to the original 2 days.
User was warned for this post So it's ok to send death threats/harass over a video game forum? Because that's basically what happened. I think TL took the appropriate actions, and they shouldn't regret it. Idra has many times been told about his behavior and chooses to not change it. Hopefully one day he will learn. I just want the drama to end >.<
Saying someone is a waste of life isnt a death threat he is basically saying that CrunCher wasnt worth it
its jsut it comes off as really heinous
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On May 09 2011 05:39 Gokey wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:21 Drowsy wrote:
That banlog is downright impressive. I really don't like Chill tbh, but Idra's complete lack of professionalism is an embarrassment to starcraft 2 progaming. The western scene needs to understand: You are not a bunch of teenagers playing games anymore, this is your job and you need to behave like adults.
If sponsorships from big entities like MLG and IGN are to continue, the scene needs to be mature and civil. As of now, it's barely a step up from wow-nerds. Bashing somebody's play is fine, but insulting them personally over work/a game is unacceptable. Agreed 100%. The lack of social skills of some of the current SC2 players is downright embarrassing.
tbh i have no problem with how players act. sometimes i like it, sometimes i dont. in the end its entertaining and brings "flavor". believe me you dont want old korean like " i will work harder to beat my amazingly skilled opponent" comments all the time.
but i also think evrything was dealt with perfectly fine by TL staff here.
imo players should be honest and outspoken.but if that violates rules of a 3rd party then deal with the punishment. thats all there is to it for me.
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On May 09 2011 05:45 Zerkaszhan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:42 Scriptix wrote:On May 08 2011 06:51 diverzee wrote:
Ridiculous way of enforcing something bad just out of spite. This is not national law, it's just a forum. Would be way better to actually think of the fans and at least stick to the original 2 days.
User was warned for this post So it's ok to send death threats/harass over a video game forum? Because that's basically what happened. I think TL took the appropriate actions, and they shouldn't regret it. Idra has many times been told about his behavior and chooses to not change it. Hopefully one day he will learn. I just want the drama to end >.< Saying someone is a waste of life isnt a death threat he is basically saying that CrunCher wasnt worth it its jsut it comes off as really heinous
Chill posted himself that people were sending them to him...so...
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On May 09 2011 05:26 Aim Here wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2011 05:07 nemo14 wrote:
What would someone have to do to get their stream banned? Well BigT got his stream banned for something similar to Idra, in that (as I recall) he was asking people to PM mods in order to get his stream featured, among other things. Show nested quote +Even if IdrA can't BM the community with his posts, he can still just talk about the situation on his stream, which probably reaches far more people than most of his posts do. How is a 90-day ban at all productive if everyone can still come to TL, click on IdrA's stream, and listen as he talks about whatever he wants to? The point of the ban wasn't to stop Idra saying things offsite - that's clearly impossible. What it does do is deter him from trying to use twitter or his stream to incite his fans to harass Teamliquid mods to overturn moderator decisions, since instead of having his paltry 2-day slap-on-the-wrist ban lifted, he gets it extended by a large amount. Sure, he can try again, if he wants to, but it's unlikely to have any more effect than the last time, and nerd-fatigue is going to kick in pretty quickly when it comes to this sort of activism.
My point was that everyone who wants to can still come here, on-site, and listen to IdrA talk after he's been banned. The staff certainly can't restrict his speech anywhere other than TL, but leaving him the ability to stream here seems like it really weakens the concept of a site-wide ban. Also, if BigT gets stream-banned for telling his viewers to PM the mods, why not IdrA?
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After this I'm sure IdrA has lost all or what was left of the respect he had for Team Liquid's staff.
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