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Hello, all!

It's become quite apparent that many of you are not reading the first post carefully.

Failure to do so in the future will be met with swift punishment. And as always, remember to be civil.

Thanks,

Empyrean. Time stamp: 03:59 KST.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 20:23:30
May 08 2011 20:21 GMT
#1901
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Captcha
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden22 Posts
May 08 2011 20:22 GMT
#1902
Lol, drama.

I like it. We need antiheroes too!
404
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
May 08 2011 20:22 GMT
#1903
I'm pleased to see that the hammer is brought down fairly and indiscriminately. Just because Idra is a Pro-gamer and a frequent poster does not give him the privilege of encouraging harassment of a moderator, or breaking the forum rules repeatedly, the very rules he agreed to when he signed up on TL.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 20:23:05
May 08 2011 20:22 GMT
#1904
On May 09 2011 05:21 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 05:19 Vindicate wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:14 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:13 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Personally i think cruncher should fo been punished as well as he is intentionally aiming after idra like a 14 year old kid i think he should be punished for actively trying to make idra rage knowing full well how he reacts i dont think idra would of said anything if cruncher wasnt after him about everything to me it looks like idra is the kid that works hard and has some outbursts and cruncher being the kid that doesnt get punished for doing bad things and gets the other kid in trouble all the time but overall i agree with the ban idra has received since it did go overboard i don't always agree with the moderation on this site but it seems to work

Stream sniping is nothing new, and nothing bad.



No, but but stream sniping so you can cheat your opponent for the sole purpose of riling him up and causing trouble is immature and a needless generator of grief. I might have been able to accept that Cruncher just wanted to play IdrA if he had used IdrA's stream to get into the game, then turned it off. Instead Cruncher left the stream on and used it against his opponent. That's low, unethical even. Sure it's just the ladder but I personally think Cruncher's attitude is deplorable. IdrA's too, for that matter, for making such a deal out of this.

Accusing a pro gamer of cheating when everything points in the other direction is pretty bad you shouldn't do that. There is nothing wrong with wanting to play a rival.

one of the jtv mods already said he thought cruncher cheated as well and he was in both streams
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 20:24:29
May 08 2011 20:23 GMT
#1905
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TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
May 08 2011 20:24 GMT
#1906
On May 09 2011 05:22 Grimmyman123 wrote:
I'm pleased to see that the hammer is brought down fairly and indiscriminately. Just because Idra is a Pro-gamer and a frequent poster does not give him the privilege of encouraging harassment of a moderator, or breaking the forum rules repeatedly, the very rules he agreed to when he signed up on TL.

Apparently it does, considering he hasn't been perma banned yet.
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
kethers
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States719 Posts
May 08 2011 20:24 GMT
#1907
On May 09 2011 05:22 Serpico wrote:
one of the jtv mods already said he thought cruncher cheated as well and he was in both streams


Please don't post hearsay evidence without some kind of proof.
Vindicate
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
May 08 2011 20:24 GMT
#1908
On May 09 2011 05:21 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 05:19 Vindicate wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:14 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:13 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Personally i think cruncher should fo been punished as well as he is intentionally aiming after idra like a 14 year old kid i think he should be punished for actively trying to make idra rage knowing full well how he reacts i dont think idra would of said anything if cruncher wasnt after him about everything to me it looks like idra is the kid that works hard and has some outbursts and cruncher being the kid that doesnt get punished for doing bad things and gets the other kid in trouble all the time but overall i agree with the ban idra has received since it did go overboard i don't always agree with the moderation on this site but it seems to work

Stream sniping is nothing new, and nothing bad.



No, but but stream sniping so you can cheat your opponent for the sole purpose of riling him up and causing trouble is immature and a needless generator of grief. I might have been able to accept that Cruncher just wanted to play IdrA if he had used IdrA's stream to get into the game, then turned it off. Instead Cruncher left the stream on and used it against his opponent. That's low, unethical even. Sure it's just the ladder but I personally think Cruncher's attitude is deplorable. IdrA's too, for that matter, for making such a deal out of this.

Accusing a pro gamer of cheating when everything points in the other direction is pretty bad, you shouldn't do that. There is nothing wrong with wanting to play a rival.


You are correct, I spoke too harshly. I did not mean to state that Cruncher is a cheater, only that he is intentionally antagonizing a person already known to be volatile. I apologize for my misstatement.
ShootingStars
Profile Joined August 2010
1475 Posts
May 08 2011 20:26 GMT
#1909
I really hate it when there isn't enough evidence to prove someone of an offense like cheating and they get away 100% scotch-free. ._.

Hope the TL mods can find some evidence soon so this can be settled.
Aim Here
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Scotland672 Posts
May 08 2011 20:26 GMT
#1910
On May 09 2011 05:07 nemo14 wrote:
What would someone have to do to get their stream banned?


Well BigT got his stream banned for something similar to Idra, in that (as I recall) he was asking people to PM mods in order to get his stream featured, among other things.

Even if IdrA can't BM the community with his posts, he can still just talk about the situation on his stream, which probably reaches far more people than most of his posts do. How is a 90-day ban at all productive if everyone can still come to TL, click on IdrA's stream, and listen as he talks about whatever he wants to?


The point of the ban wasn't to stop Idra saying things offsite - that's clearly impossible. What it does do is deter him from trying to use twitter or his stream to incite his fans to harass Teamliquid mods to overturn moderator decisions, since instead of having his paltry 2-day slap-on-the-wrist ban lifted, he gets it extended by a large amount. Sure, he can try again, if he wants to, but it's unlikely to have any more effect than the last time, and nerd-fatigue is going to kick in pretty quickly when it comes to this sort of activism.
Zerkaszhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada120 Posts
May 08 2011 20:27 GMT
#1911
On May 09 2011 05:19 Vindicate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 05:14 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:13 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Personally i think cruncher should fo been punished as well as he is intentionally aiming after idra like a 14 year old kid i think he should be punished for actively trying to make idra rage knowing full well how he reacts i dont think idra would of said anything if cruncher wasnt after him about everything to me it looks like idra is the kid that works hard and has some outbursts and cruncher being the kid that doesnt get punished for doing bad things and gets the other kid in trouble all the time but overall i agree with the ban idra has received since it did go overboard i don't always agree with the moderation on this site but it seems to work

Stream sniping is nothing new, and nothing bad.



No, but but stream sniping so you can cheat your opponent for the sole purpose of riling him up and causing trouble is immature and a needless generator of grief. I might have been able to accept that Cruncher just wanted to play IdrA if he had used IdrA's stream to get into the game, then turned it off. Instead Cruncher left the stream on and used it against his opponent. That's low, unethical even. Sure it's just the ladder but I personally think Cruncher's attitude is deplorable. IdrA's too, for that matter, for making such a deal out of this.


thats the point i was trying to make Cruncher is at much at fault as idra since he started this it takes two to tango and the fact that idra wouldn't of said anything unless cruncher was being a dick on purpose ever since "" he has been trying to get idra in more trouble.
here comes the swarm
trew
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden93 Posts
May 08 2011 20:27 GMT
#1912
On May 09 2011 05:24 Vindicate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 05:21 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:19 Vindicate wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:14 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:13 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Personally i think cruncher should fo been punished as well as he is intentionally aiming after idra like a 14 year old kid i think he should be punished for actively trying to make idra rage knowing full well how he reacts i dont think idra would of said anything if cruncher wasnt after him about everything to me it looks like idra is the kid that works hard and has some outbursts and cruncher being the kid that doesnt get punished for doing bad things and gets the other kid in trouble all the time but overall i agree with the ban idra has received since it did go overboard i don't always agree with the moderation on this site but it seems to work

Stream sniping is nothing new, and nothing bad.



No, but but stream sniping so you can cheat your opponent for the sole purpose of riling him up and causing trouble is immature and a needless generator of grief. I might have been able to accept that Cruncher just wanted to play IdrA if he had used IdrA's stream to get into the game, then turned it off. Instead Cruncher left the stream on and used it against his opponent. That's low, unethical even. Sure it's just the ladder but I personally think Cruncher's attitude is deplorable. IdrA's too, for that matter, for making such a deal out of this.

Accusing a pro gamer of cheating when everything points in the other direction is pretty bad, you shouldn't do that. There is nothing wrong with wanting to play a rival.


You are correct, I spoke too harshly. I did not mean to state that Cruncher is a cheater, only that he is intentionally antagonizing a person already known to be volatile. I apologize for my misstatement.


Also Tyler made a post in this thread about why he left it open. The thing was that you leave the stream open, but muted so that when the game is over you can unmute the stream and listen to the commentary. If the stream has to be opened you might miss the commentary due to the initial ads.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
May 08 2011 20:28 GMT
#1913
On May 09 2011 05:24 Vindicate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 05:21 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:19 Vindicate wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:14 zeru wrote:
On May 09 2011 05:13 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Personally i think cruncher should fo been punished as well as he is intentionally aiming after idra like a 14 year old kid i think he should be punished for actively trying to make idra rage knowing full well how he reacts i dont think idra would of said anything if cruncher wasnt after him about everything to me it looks like idra is the kid that works hard and has some outbursts and cruncher being the kid that doesnt get punished for doing bad things and gets the other kid in trouble all the time but overall i agree with the ban idra has received since it did go overboard i don't always agree with the moderation on this site but it seems to work

Stream sniping is nothing new, and nothing bad.



No, but but stream sniping so you can cheat your opponent for the sole purpose of riling him up and causing trouble is immature and a needless generator of grief. I might have been able to accept that Cruncher just wanted to play IdrA if he had used IdrA's stream to get into the game, then turned it off. Instead Cruncher left the stream on and used it against his opponent. That's low, unethical even. Sure it's just the ladder but I personally think Cruncher's attitude is deplorable. IdrA's too, for that matter, for making such a deal out of this.

Accusing a pro gamer of cheating when everything points in the other direction is pretty bad, you shouldn't do that. There is nothing wrong with wanting to play a rival.


You are correct, I spoke too harshly. I did not mean to state that Cruncher is a cheater, only that he is intentionally antagonizing a person already known to be volatile. I apologize for my misstatement.


wont argue that its certainly plausible that cruncher did it with the intention of "riling up" idra... but given their history if he had matched idra anyway the same outcome of dislike from idra wouldnt have likely been any differnet (all speculative thought of course), and as stated neither stream sniping nor intentionally frustrating a player is against TL law
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 20:29:23
May 08 2011 20:28 GMT
#1914
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-08 20:29:23
May 08 2011 20:28 GMT
#1915
I posted this in the fanclub, but since it seems that a lot of the mods are reading this thread, I thought I'd ask here.

If he chooses to continue streaming his games, how will IdrA's stream work for the next three months? Can he still set his channel to live by himself, or would he need someone to do it for him? Someone else said there's an option to have TL scan if your stream is live and then set your TL channel live. Is this option a reality?

And before someone jumps on me for not reading the OP, I'm not asking if he can stream or not, I'm asking the specifics of how his channel will appear in the sidebar, and how the channel will be set to live.

Thanks. :p
you gotta dance
Zerkaszhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada120 Posts
May 08 2011 20:29 GMT
#1916
Notice how i am not saying he cheated im just saying he is trying to riel idra up and should be punished for going as low as idra
here comes the swarm
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
May 08 2011 20:30 GMT
#1917
On May 09 2011 05:29 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Notice how i am not saying he cheated im just saying he is trying to riel idra up and should be punished for going as low as idra


if riling up deserved a ban/warning, there'd be many fewer people allowed on TL
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
May 08 2011 20:32 GMT
#1918
Love IdrA.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
Zerkaszhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada120 Posts
May 08 2011 20:33 GMT
#1919
On May 09 2011 05:30 RyanRushia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 05:29 Zerkaszhan wrote:
Notice how i am not saying he cheated im just saying he is trying to riel idra up and should be punished for going as low as idra


if riling up deserved a ban/warning, there'd be many fewer people allowed on TL

True but it isnt the first time he has been trying to illicit a reaction from him i dont think cruncher coming off scott free is fair to the community either its like watching a bunch of 12-14 year olds fight over who did it first id say punish them both even in the TSL interviews crunchers peen got all throbbing from making idra rage how can that not be an eye opener he Peen is probably throbbing to all the people defending him also im not saying Idra did something that wasnt uncalled for but i dont think cruncher should just not be punished
here comes the swarm
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
May 08 2011 20:34 GMT
#1920
On May 09 2011 05:28 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I posted this in the fanclub, but since it seems that a lot of the mods are reading this thread, I thought I'd ask here.

If he chooses to continue streaming his games, how will IdrA's stream work for the next three months? Can he still set his channel to live by himself, or would he need someone to do it for him? Someone else said there's an option to have TL scan if your stream is live and then set your TL channel live. Is this option a reality?

And before someone jumps on me for not reading the OP, I'm not asking if he can stream or not, I'm asking the specifics of how his channel will appear in the sidebar, and how the channel will be set to live.

Thanks. :p


chill quoted before that pro players are still allowed to straem, and that his stream will remain Featured, so i'm under the impression that there will be zero difference as to how he streamed last week and how he will now that he's been banned for three months. therefore it should remain on the sidebar as featued under Live user streams: as it has been
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
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