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Don't post in this thread to say "gay gamers are like everyone else, why do they have a special thread?" It is something that has been posted numerous times, and this isn't the place for that discussion. For regular posters, don't quote the trolls. | ||
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Axero
United States307 Posts
On March 22 2012 18:16 Zaros wrote: It has some micro just of one single unit all the time, like a hero mission in a campaign. DotA >>> much more interesting game. | ||
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Troxle
United States486 Posts
DotA 2 looks awful from every stream I've watched...I'd rather play LoL but maybe they just play on shit settings... | ||
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adrenaLinG
Canada676 Posts
I've played all three and I think LoL has quite a bit of complexity to it. It has far more variables/complexity than DotA to deal with, the meta game is always really unstable in LoL, especially since they release new heroes all the time. DotA is a lot more mechanics-driven (like SC2) and also more dependent on each individual with feeders still giving substantial gold and many heroes being able to snowball insanely fast and able to solo an entire enemy team without difficulty if fed. In LoL I think teamwork has a much bigger effect on whether you win or lose a fight. Dragon and Baron affect the game way more than Roshan does in DotA. LoL is getting really popular in Korea, they even paid NaDa to do a shill for the game: | ||
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Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On March 23 2012 02:51 adrenaLinG wrote: I've played all three and I think LoL has quite a bit of complexity to it. It has far more variables/complexity than DotA to deal with, the meta game is always really unstable in LoL, especially since they release new heroes all the time. DotA is a lot more mechanics-driven (like SC2) and also more dependent on each individual with feeders still giving substantial gold and many heroes being able to snowball insanely fast and able to solo an entire enemy team without difficulty if fed. In LoL I think teamwork has a much bigger effect on whether you win or lose a fight. Dragon and Baron affect the game way more than Roshan does in DotA. LoL is getting really popular in Korea, they even paid NaDa to do a shill for the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynAOxvJ0580 Based on your description I'd say the opposite. DotA punishes bad play and allows good players to increase their advantages. You aren't going to be carried by your team either, the onus is on you to be good at the game. | ||
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kentriarch
Singapore61 Posts
I am likely to be in Europe in June, so I am considering spending a couple of days in Sweden for DreamHack. | ||
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Zer atai
United States691 Posts
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adrenaLinG
Canada676 Posts
On March 23 2012 07:00 Klondikebar wrote: Based on your description I'd say the opposite. DotA punishes bad play and allows good players to increase their advantages. You aren't going to be carried by your team either, the onus is on you to be good at the game. that's not the opposite. DotA punishes a feeder much harsher than LoL punishes a feeder, and it also rewards mechanics/kills similarly. Deaths also don't make you lose gold in LoL. That's why in DotA victories the top ratios have a tendency to be concentrated among one or two players, whereas in LoL the scores are bit more even -- there is less deviation around the average KDR | ||
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Axero
United States307 Posts
On March 23 2012 16:24 adrenaLinG wrote: that's not the opposite. DotA punishes a feeder much harsher than LoL punishes a feeder, and it also rewards mechanics/kills similarly. Deaths also don't make you lose gold in LoL. That's why in DotA victories the top ratios have a tendency to be concentrated among one or two players, whereas in LoL the scores are bit more even -- there is less deviation around the average KDR First I'm going to say this: DotA makes you work for everything. Items are much harder to get. (Gold loss on dying, no g/5 items, tower denying, creep denying, no dragon gold) They both punish feeders relatively equally... Item builds in LoL are much quicker and easier to finish. Since there is no denying in LoL you can't really keep lanes even after killing a tower, so no matter what someone can always go farm that wave once it gets pushed. Also, like you said, you don't lose gold from dying and you can't deny towers. I will say, DotA is a bit more harsh as far as the laning phase goes, but I think people get a bit carried away with the whole "godly fed carry soloing a team". 90% of the time it's one person in a pub game that it happens. It happens in LoL plenty. Not that I want to start a DotA vs LoL debate in here. I'm going to link this here for the people who just got a key, or are looking to get started when DotA 2 is released. TL DotA Learning Group ^Has links that break down hero roles, items, skill builds, etc etc. A very good resource for people starting out. | ||
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Josketh
United States155 Posts
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Troxle
United States486 Posts
On March 24 2012 14:07 Josketh wrote: I've been using LoL as a warm up and cool down for my hands pre and post SC2 ladder. I just play it when I'm sick and super tired and Call of Duty isn't doin' it for me...though last night when Riot failed 3 times to change my mastery tree (junglin' with my Alistar support mastery tree when I made sure to select my Warwick jungle mastery is damn near impossible and frustratin'!) I had to play Call of Duty...its funish...I guess, I've been playin' it quite a bit, its really easy to solo carry a team in PvP as Ashe/Sivir/Warwick for me, but my playstyle is perfect for them (got to unlock Caitlyn now...my friend has her and she is so broken OP...) Anywho...whose watchin' MLG? I missed most of it yesterday, my friends all wanted me to carry in League so I said fine and played (mostly cause one of my friend's whose never online came on to play! ^.^) For those who were able to attend (QQ people quittin' at work, I still a mad bro for that!), how is the event this year? | ||
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Petra37
United States20 Posts
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drshdwpuppet
United States332 Posts
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FalahNorei
Germany56 Posts
On March 25 2012 02:52 Petra37 wrote: I hope that a half gay female will be allowed into this, cuz I <3 this thread. Is there any form of GLBT FB group or SC2 chat channel that anyone knows of? while I can see why you ask for permission to post here, but I'd honestly be very surprised and disappointed if anybody wouldn't want you here, at least not for being female  so far from me, welcome, but I can't really help you with the FB or SCII group. not that I'd know off, though there certainly are. | ||
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Axero
United States307 Posts
On March 25 2012 02:52 Petra37 wrote: I hope that a half gay female will be allowed into this, cuz I <3 this thread. Is there any form of GLBT FB group or SC2 chat channel that anyone knows of? Everyone is welcome here!! | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I think we all wish a congratz to MKP #1 Terran and cutest player | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
my DRG...I'm not going to sleep well tonight either T_T | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On March 26 2012 09:35 neoghaleon55 wrote: I just said congratz to his fan club... my DRG...I'm not going to sleep well tonight either T_T aww just dream of DRG winning two GSLs in a row and you'll be fine. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On March 26 2012 09:38 Zaros wrote: aww just dream of DRG winning two GSLs in a row and you'll be fine. haha Thanks I really hope I get to meet him again at Anaheim. There's nothing I want more as a starcraft fan this year. | ||
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kentriarch
Singapore61 Posts
On March 26 2012 09:38 Zaros wrote: aww just dream of DRG winning two GSLs in a row and you'll be fine. I am a bad person because I don't want DRG to win 2 GSLs in a row... Haha. I am too much of a MVP and MKP fan to allow that to happen!!! | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On March 26 2012 12:19 kentriarch wrote: I am a bad person because I don't want DRG to win 2 GSLs in a row... Haha. I am too much of a MVP and MKP fan to allow that to happen!!! :O! I see... I'm sorry, ken, it's not going to work out. You and I are destined to be enemies. lol | ||
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