Gay StarCraft Players - Page 168

On December 07 2011 15:39 GDR wrote:
I think, wow, we may need to throw Huk and MKP on the back burner. Slayers_Brown, woah.

On December 07 2011 16:10 Barburas wrote:


He's quite nice indeed :D

But I do get the feeling he won't be to everyone's taste.

On December 07 2011 16:10 Barburas wrote:


He's quite nice indeed :D

But I do get the feeling he won't be to everyone's taste.

On December 07 2011 16:28 Silverfoxx wrote:


This. He just doesn't appeal to me like huk and MKP do. Can't put an EXACT finger to it, but I think it's the pronounced cheek bones...

...wait. Nothing QUITE does it for me in the nicer pictures of him, but for the GSL ones, is it just me or does he look sick? >_>

On December 07 2011 22:46 Roe wrote:
I enjoy looking at Testie(s) more

On December 08 2011 04:56 Klondikebar wrote:
So I finally have time to make a real post that I've needed to make since last night.

So every tuesday my best friend since middle school and I have Wine and Whine Tuesdays where we basically just drink wine and whine about the stuff that has sucked that week. At last night's W&WT she admitted to me that she still thought being gay was a sin and she still didn't know what to do with me. This was actually a HUGE blow for me. She's known for at least 2 years and I thought she had accepted me. She's even done the "gay best friend" stuff like asking for clothes advice and ranting about boys to me. And a huge part of my security as a gay man was tied up in the fact that I had a best friend who accepted me. Now that's gone...

*sigh* I don't know what to do except pull back into my shell. If my friend of 10 years can't come to terms with me, what the fuck kind of hope do I have for other people?

P.S. I'm also slowly discovering that most of the people at my firm are kinda...fundies so I'm feeling less secure at work too.

FML.

On December 08 2011 06:53 Shiragaku wrote:

Play a game of logic with her.

On December 08 2011 06:59 Klondikebar wrote:



I have...the problem is that she will readily admit she's completely divorced from logic. She is currently living with the hypocrisy of "my friend is doing something wrong but my friend is doing nothing wrong."

And logic games often come off as bullying (and won't undo years of propaganda anyway).

Your suggestion is probably the best one but trying to rationally explain something to someone who has completely abandoned reason does not usually end well.

On December 08 2011 07:05 Shiragaku wrote:

Well I am a gay person who is pretty religious (Christian Atheism) and you might as well read her the Bible verse that condemns homosexuality. In Leviticus, you cannot eat shrimp, plant two different seeds in the same row of a farm, and elsewhere int the Bible, a guy was killed by God because he did not cum inside of a woman and withdrew. The Bible also condemns adultery and condoned genocide, slavery, rape, and war. That is the Old Testament.

And the New Testament is better, (but it still has a lot of weird shit and if we took it literally, life would be hell.) So ask her if homosexuality is a sin, then is eating shrimp as sin? In my interpretation as a Christian, times change and it is absolutely okay to pick and choose. Christianity is not suppose to be someone subject to a power that probably does not exist, it is suppose to be a philosophy.

I guess it is best if you avoid the subject of religion, but judging someone worthy of sin, which means damnation to eternal torture, starved, thirst, and pain, forever and ever that is never going to end (the Holocaust is not even this sick) is not something to be taken lightly.

On December 08 2011 07:11 Klondikebar wrote:


I guess I'll have to do that at some point when I can muster up the courage. This is gonna suck. Having to try to reason with your best friend to accept you isn't something I should have to do dammit!

On December 08 2011 07:14 Shiragaku wrote:

Haha, when I got in those debates with people, they often ignore or deny what I say because there is no way God could be this evil. And they do not even consider me to be Christian.

On December 08 2011 04:56 Klondikebar wrote:
So I finally have time to make a real post that I've needed to make since last night.

So every tuesday my best friend since middle school and I have Wine and Whine Tuesdays where we basically just drink wine and whine about the stuff that has sucked that week. At last night's W&WT she admitted to me that she still thought being gay was a sin and she still didn't know what to do with me. This was actually a HUGE blow for me. She's known for at least 2 years and I thought she had accepted me. She's even done the "gay best friend" stuff like asking for clothes advice and ranting about boys to me. And a huge part of my security as a gay man was tied up in the fact that I had a best friend who accepted me. Now that's gone...

*sigh* I don't know what to do except pull back into my shell. If my friend of 10 years can't come to terms with me, what the fuck kind of hope do I have for other people?

P.S. I'm also slowly discovering that most of the people at my firm are kinda...fundies so I'm feeling less secure at work too.

FML.

On December 08 2011 07:30 Kerotan wrote:

Oh man, this is tough.
But I don't think you can do anything, you have been the one quite clearly wronged here. I'm a hot headed guy, and I'm bad at empathising at how meaningful your ten year friendship is to you, but in your position I would livid. You have been best buds for ten years, and its clearly very meaningful to you, and should have been meaningful to her, and now she wants to fuck that up over something she had dealt with 2 years ago?
I'm getting angry about it just typing about it.
I would talk her and be frank, "You either have to get rid of these thoughts (loving the sinner hating the sin isn't good enough for you), or otherwise she is trashing this friendship", really stressing that being gay is something non-negotiable, its not like enjoying Linguine or riding a bike, you will not change, however much she or you wants to.
Also if she dares to maintain that is okay to be gay, just don't act on her urges, really fuck that bitch, any friend that willing endorses a life of mandated loneliness for someone they call a friend can fuck right off.
Now all that being said, clarify think and feel, if she feels that being gay is a sin, but doesn't think it, you should be sensitive and sympathetic, we all know how difficult it is to get rid of baggage, especially if she has spent most of her life being indoctrinated that being gay is a sin.

Anyways I'm well aware that my advice could be wicked bad advice, so take it all with a pinch of salt.

On December 08 2011 07:34 Klondikebar wrote:



Haha, it's wicked bad advice right up until the end where it gets really good. We've both grown up in extremely conservative environments. She's shedding a lot of baggage by still just being my friend. Although that doesn't make it any easier to deal with.

On December 08 2011 07:39 Kerotan wrote:


Its hard for me be empathetic, since I've grown up in an incredibly liberal environment, if someone gets morally conservative on me, I can say deal with it or your cut from life, with little consequence.

Well, maybe its best to play the long game then, since I'm not sure you can do or say anything to her which will help lose her emotional baggage any faster. I think the best thing for you is cathartic venting like this.