EPTIn-Game Standard Hero Builds Project - Page 99
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TheYango
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Rocket-Bear
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And yes his boar and bird might not be the best in lane but they are really good for ganking later on. Which is what mid beastmaster should be doing imo. Plus you don't have to leave the boar in the lane, you can go stack with him. Or you can send him to one rune, and go to the other to 100% being able to deny the rune and stuff. Plus not feeding with them isn't very hard, they definitely shouldn't just be free gold. | ||
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TheYango
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Sure you can do other things with the summons, but given how bottle-crow laning plays out for Beastmaster and how Axes damage vs. creeps is going down by a lot, you can't afford to lose those Axes ranks now, IMO. Lane/rune control contributes more to your ability to gank well than the summons make up for if you can't force your lane up to get runes against a hero that has a stronger nuke than you and you don't have Inner Beast attack speed working for you. | ||
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Buckyman
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Rocket-Bear
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If you skill bird at level 4 you are sitting on a disgustingly useless ability for 4 levels assuming you are going Axes level 4 at level 7. And even if you skill boar at level 7, then you still sat on a useless bird for 3 levels. On September 25 2014 02:23 Buckyman wrote: 3-2-0 is not under consideration for stacking your inner jungle without leaving lane? This is what I do but I prefer 3 in minions cause the bird becomes so massively much better at level 3. With somewhat active micro it can be so amazingly game changing. A lot safer dives because you get flying vision over their trees behind the towers. You can spot incoming ganks and tower pushes etc. 2-3-0-1 3-2-0-1 3-0-2-1 are all fine I think. 3-1-1 is not however and that's what in the guide. 4 levels of a useless bird is a shitty skillbuild. | ||
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TheYango
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On September 25 2014 02:23 Buckyman wrote: 3-2-0 is not under consideration for stacking your inner jungle without leaving lane? Offlane, yes. Mid, no, because the first rank of Inner Beast is hugely impactful toward how you trade/maintain creep control in mid lane. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
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Torte de Lini
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Sn0_Man
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Torte de Lini
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On September 25 2014 06:32 Sn0_Man wrote: I mean u know that a rune is gonna spawn in both spots and it doesn't scout much till level 3 in the ability I assume he's talking about the guide for this patch. I haven't made any changes for next patch yet. | ||
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TheYango
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Rocket-Bear
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On September 25 2014 06:31 Torte de Lini wrote: Bird is for rune and scouting. The lvl 1 bird is actually slower than CM without boots. Dies from 1 autoattack and gives gold. Doesn't have the invis ability it gets at lvl 3. Kinda hard to use it for scouting. Plus you should have a runeward anyway so idk. Lvl 1 bird might actually be the worst lvl 1 spell in the game. So I'm just saying that leaving it at level 1 is a pretty big mistake. Either get the boar or don't get minons at all. | ||
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OmegaPython
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On September 25 2014 19:10 OmegaPython wrote: What is your reasoning for that Riki skill build? It seems that your damage is going to be really mediocre until you get higher levels of Backstab, although I guess you can't make very good use of it until you get Blink Strike now anyway. I guess you just farm in lane for longer? edit | ||
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TheYango
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Torte de Lini
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On September 25 2014 20:19 TheYango wrote: Torte, you need to max Backstab now to maximize your level 6 burst. Permanent Invis is primarily a 1-point engagement skill. The hero's damage-dealing capacity rests heavily on Ulti burst. What's the full skill build order. edit: I see, I understood that Blink Strike had charges and a 30 second cooldown period, I misread. | ||
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