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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:42 Sn0_Man wrote: Mek got a lot WORSE though. AC's never been justifiable whoever implied that it is is silly. Maybe if they have an ET but thats wayyyyyyy too obscure. AC was justifiable when Agha didn't give stat sharing so you literally could only aura stack to buff your Meepo's, but that was AGES ago. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Soul Ring is indeed way not good enough anymore. E: Re NP: Deso SUCKS dude plus its a huge non-bo with maelstrom. Necro 3 is core, midas is situational these days, shadowblade is preeeetty rare. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Clockwerk: Crimson Guard instead of Meka (arcane -> Meka -> blade mail) Dark Seer: Bottle? Ember Spirit (Lane): Bottle? Shadow Shaman (Lane): Bottle? Spirit Breaker: Max Empowering Haste second instead of Charge of Darkness (Bash is maxed first) Pudge: Wand early-game or RoP starting items? Weaver (Mid): Bottle? Maybe remove Aquila? New Phantom Lancer haven't figured out how to do his item build nor items yet Silencer currently he has Mekansm as core, is this still the way to play Silencer? Axe (Lane) Crimson Guard conundrum Axe (Jungle) Crimson Guard conundrum - currently have a support core build as well (Arcane -> Meka) Lone Druid (Lane) no clue yet Lone Druid (Jungle) no clue yet Chen Aghanim's Core? or Extension? Before Meka or? Leshrac core item Build for Carry Leshrac (Bloodstone) should max Lightning instead of Edict - separate build or? Treant Protector remake core item build to fit Aghanim's Scepter Bloodseeker New Item and Skill Build New guides: Ogre Magi (Middle) no clue yet Gyrocopter (Middle) didn't get to start it Earth Spirit (Lane) no clue yet Warlock (Middle) didn't get to start it Bloodseeker (Lane) no clue yet Sniper (Middle) no clue yet Phantom Lancer (Middle)?? worthwhile or not? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:56 Sn0_Man wrote: E: Re NP: Deso SUCKS dude plus its a huge non-bo with maelstrom. Necro 3 is core, midas is situational these days, shadowblade is preeeetty rare. Also change the starting items lol. Naked Basi + 2 Clarities blows in pretty much every situation, lmao. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
U don't have to max bash first since its damage scaling is way different, you now GET to max charge first. Haste is way better now but still easily the last max IMO. There's an argument for 4-4-1-2 but then u can never solo kill. If he turns into a support then 4-4-1-2 would be the build imo. | ||
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OmegaPython
Australia8 Posts
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govie
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:59 Torte de Lini wrote: Pudge: Wand early-game or RoP starting items? As a rule, don't put RoP in unless the hero was already getting Basi. Basi and its upgrades didn't change, and RoP isn't worth it to get if you aren't going to do do anything with it. On September 26 2014 06:59 Torte de Lini wrote: Weaver (Mid): Bottle? Maybe remove Aquila? Weaver mid should already have Bottle, I don't know why it wasn't there before. Whether or not you buy Aquila is entirely independent of whether or not you got Bottle. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 26 2014 07:01 Sn0_Man wrote: Spirit breaker now goes 4-1-1-1 -> 4-1-4-2 U don't have to max bash first since its damage scaling is way different, you now GET to max charge first. Haste is way better now but still easily the last max. I thought you max bash first as when you use Charge of Darkness, you get 1 free Bash in; guaranteeing the damage. On September 26 2014 07:02 TheYango wrote: As a rule, don't put RoP in unless the hero was already getting Basi. Basi and its upgrades didn't change, and RoP isn't worth it to get if you aren't going to do do anything with it. Weaver mid should already have Bottle, I don't know why it wasn't there before. Whether or not you buy Aquila is entirely independent of whether or not you got Bottle. Done Pudge is getting Tranquils | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On September 26 2014 07:02 OmegaPython wrote: Patch is out!! How many new guides do you have ready? All but 10 | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Now the first level of bash is enough damage and the next levels of it read "miniscule damage increase" so u don't get them early. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 26 2014 07:04 Sn0_Man wrote: Thats how it used to work since u had to max bash to get damage. Now the first level of bash is enough damage and the next levels of it read "miniscule damage increase" so u don't get them early. No, 4-1-1-1 was the right way to play SB before as well. Anyone who did otherwise had no clue how to play the hero, lol. 1-1-4-1 was only right if you were getting farmed as a safe lane core or playing mid for whatever reason, which are both shitty ways to play the hero anyway because his ass BAT after the nerf makes it impossible for him to go anywhere lategame. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Silencer currently he has Mekansm as core, is this still the way to play Silencer? Axe (Lane) Crimson Guard conundrum Axe (Jungle) Crimson Guard conundrum - currently have a support core build as well (Arcane -> Meka) Lone Druid (Lane) no clue yet Lone Druid (Jungle) no clue yet Chen Aghanim's Core? or Extension? Before Meka or? Leshrac core item Build for Carry Leshrac (Bloodstone) should max Lightning instead of Edict - separate build or? Treant Protector remake core item build to fit Aghanim's Scepter Bloodseeker New Item and Skill Build New guides: Ogre Magi (Middle) no clue yet Gyrocopter (Middle) didn't get to start it Earth Spirit (Lane) no clue yet Warlock (Middle) didn't get to start it Bloodseeker (Lane) no clue yet Sniper (Middle) no clue yet Phantom Lancer (Middle)?? worthwhile or not? I'm working on publishing what I have and doing these tomorrow. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Just wonky cloud servers, how infuriating. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 26 2014 07:05 TheYango wrote: No, 4-1-1-1 was the right way to play SB before as well. Anyone who did otherwise had no clue how to play the hero, lol. 1-1-4-1 was only right if you were getting farmed as a safe lane core or playing mid for whatever reason, which are both shitty ways to play the hero anyway because his ass BAT after the nerf makes it impossible for him to go anywhere lategame. I mean, 1-1-4-1 at least u did damage. 4-1-1-1 u didn't do anything at all before. Like, u got a 2s stun basically, thats it. There's no way it was any good. This is from an offlane perspective too since it's the only lane the hero had any application in imo. | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
Ever tried to farm an aghs as treant or chen, it isnt that easy and still very expensive. Your old treant and chen guides still seem fine | ||
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