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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 21:18:24
December 15 2014 17:57 GMT
#2541
edit
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 18:20:49
December 15 2014 18:10 GMT
#2542
Alchemist Core Items done (needs to be revised)
Abaddon "done", I don't think anyone is going to agree with my choice to create two item builds
Earthshaker is fixed
Lone Druid will be looked into
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7086 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 18:47:39
December 15 2014 18:45 GMT
#2543
Honestly I would just do 2 builds (2 seperate guides) for Alchemist; Lane build with Treads -> Shadow Blade -> Maelstrom then BKB/Heart/Abyssal/AC/Mjollnir/etc. and a middle build with Phase -> medallion ->blink then bkb/ac/heart/etc.

Lane build gets max stun & acid spray but takes 1 point in greed at level 3; mid build maxes acid spray and stun but doesn't take greed until level 10.

Also, on juggernaut, i would just remove the battlefury/deso build since it's honesly too situational- if you know when you need the battlefury you wouldn't be using the guide. I would also add mjollnir to situational (it's so good on juggernaut since his BAT buffs)
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 21:13:06
December 15 2014 21:10 GMT
#2544
On December 16 2014 03:45 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Honestly I would just do 2 builds (2 seperate guides) for Alchemist; Lane build with Treads -> Shadow Blade -> Maelstrom then BKB/Heart/Abyssal/AC/Mjollnir/etc. and a middle build with Phase -> medallion ->blink then bkb/ac/heart/etc.

Lane build gets max stun & acid spray but takes 1 point in greed at level 3; mid build maxes acid spray and stun but doesn't take greed until level 10.

Also, on juggernaut, i would just remove the battlefury/deso build since it's honesly too situational- if you know when you need the battlefury you wouldn't be using the guide. I would also add mjollnir to situational (it's so good on juggernaut since his BAT buffs)


I honestly can't figure out how to build this hero. He's like Troll Warlord for me where his build either doesn't work out for me at all or simply too fluid to pin down completely.

I think I will make two separate guides.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 08:11:33
December 15 2014 21:19 GMT
#2545
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#2546
There we go. That's a good start to improve on.

Abaddon "done", I don't think anyone is going to agree with my choice to create two item builds
Earthshaker is fixed
Lone Druid will be looked into
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 15 2014 21:50 GMT
#2547
Realistically, 3 is the worst level to get Greed at. Any lane where you couldn't get it at 1 or 2 is likely not to be one where you suddenly want it at level 3.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-15 21:56:18
December 15 2014 21:55 GMT
#2548
On December 16 2014 06:50 TheYango wrote:
Realistically, 3 is the worst level to get Greed at. Any lane where you couldn't get it at 1 or 2 is likely not to be one where you suddenly want it at level 3.


I will put it at 2 and move Acid Spray to 3

edit done.

There, now I feel so much better about Alchemist and will extensively test him out tomorrow.
Abaddon needs confirmation and then Lone Druid will be brutal, ugh.

Stats tomorrow at work!
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7086 Posts
December 16 2014 03:34 GMT
#2549
Well, you've got a bunch of work on your plate now Torte.

Quick things: Remove blademail from Bloodseeker items (no longer works with Bloodrage)
Manta instead of SnY on Drow (illusions benefit from her ult)
Enchant totem at level 4 has been vindicated
Chen's skillbuild probably changes now that it scales from 1/2/3/4 instead of 1/1/2/3
Kunnka probably deserves some revisiting as well since 1 level of x marks the spot is sufficient for combos
QoP might max blink last? Range is 1300 at all levels and only the cooldown scales
You should re-visit Sniper Middle since shrapnel no longer damages towers

Starting items for all heroes may need to be revisited since courier only costs 120 (down from 150); circlet costs 165 (down from 185); salve costs 110 (down from 115)

PL should build HoTD & Skadi now that diffusal isn't an orb effect
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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 16 2014 04:37 GMT
#2550
Value point in Greevils Greed seems prudent now, now?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 08:16:44
December 16 2014 07:38 GMT
#2551
ffs fuck you patch 6.83????

holy shit, all these changes made are literally the changes I made in the guides.

Bane, I reveresed the early points in Q
The Alchemist, thanks to your suggestions, appears right now loool
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 09:15:13
December 16 2014 08:59 GMT
#2552
edit
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 17:09:35
December 16 2014 09:02 GMT
#2553
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 15:57:53
December 16 2014 09:51 GMT
#2554
[image loading]


New Color (light sky blue) for patch 6.83 chosen.

Schedule
- 9 to 11:30: Patch Analysis, Feedback reading (done)
- 11:30 to 12:00: Lunch (done)
- 12:00 to 2:30: Title Changes + Date Updates for initial unchanged heroes (un/mentioned from the patch notes) (done)
- 2:30 to 4:30: Apply initial changes (descriptions, obvious skill builds) (done)
- 4:30 to 6:00: Apply final changes
- 6:00 onward: Feedback + Testing
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 16:02:10
December 16 2014 14:59 GMT
#2555
Patch 6.83 Applied Changes (description changes not indicated)
Earthshaker
Removed 1 Clarity

Chen
New Skill Build: E W E W E R E W W Q R Q Q Q (1. Holy Persuasion 2. Test of Faith 3. Penitence)

Drow Ranger
Added Manta Style to Core Items

Kunkka (Middle)
New Skill Build: Q W E E E R E Q Q Q R W W W (1. X Marks the Spot 2. Torrent 3. Tidebringer)
TO BE VERIFIED AND TESTED

Queen of Pain
New Skill Build: Q W E E E R E Q Q Q R W W W (1. Scream of Pain 2. Shadow Strike 3. Blink)
TO BE VERIFIED AND TESTED

Sniper (Middle)
New Skill Build: E W E Q E R E W W Q R Q Q (1. Take Aim 2. Headshot 3. Shrapnel)

Techies
Removed 1 clarity

Phantom Lancer (Middle)
Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items
Removed Abyssal Blade

Phantom Lancer (Lane)
Added Eye of Skadi to Extension Items
Removed Abyssal Blade


Patch 6.83 Inquiries
Diffusal Core for Ursa?
Alchemist Lane build max Greevil's Greed?
Diffusal Blade for TA? Situational or Core?
Troll Warlord Diffusal Blade?
Anyone to remove/add Medallion of Courage?
Change Legion Commaner (Jungle) to Lane? (pretty much confirmed)
Update Lone Druid to remove Mask of Madness? (pretty much confirmed)
Update Juggernaut?
Blademail still valid on Bloodseeker?
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#2556
Collecting and posting the stats now, stay tune on this post specifically (will be edited).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 17:09:55
December 16 2014 17:03 GMT
#2557
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 16 2014 17:04 GMT
#2558
47,405,560 to 49680381

changing your comma delimitation halfway through a sentence makes it hella hard to read
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 17:10:14
December 16 2014 17:08 GMT
#2559
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 17:09:23
December 16 2014 17:09 GMT
#2560
On December 17 2014 02:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
47,405,560 to 49680381

changing your comma delimitation halfway through a sentence makes it hella hard to read


fixed

okay, I'm reposting everything for clarity's sake
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