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Magnoz
Profile Joined July 2012
Sweden15 Posts
February 17 2014 11:26 GMT
#521
Got venomancer went with dopplewalk, nethertoxin, backstab and omnislash. Game was almost hard
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10823 Posts
February 17 2014 12:15 GMT
#522
Bristle Spinethingy.
Bristle Goo.
Aftershock
Razor-Ult (or Warpath? Not sure anymore).

Yeah.. game lastet 15 mins or something like that :p.
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
February 17 2014 14:24 GMT
#523
On February 17 2014 17:21 Meta wrote:
If it was low priority give him a break, those guys deserved it.


People like him are WHY some people are low priority. I'd quit, eat the abandon and happily take some low priority games if I had to after just five to ten minutes of fountain diving just to stop wasting my time. Let alone nearly half an hour.

This kind of thing is why the "DOTA2 should have a surrender option" is even an argument that is had. Absolutely ridiculous.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 17 2014 17:53 GMT
#524
On February 17 2014 20:21 Fuzzmosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 17:37 SheaR619 wrote:
SNIP:
d if you get lucky and get Juxtopox then your pretty much guaranteed Phantom edge since no one will pick phantom edge for obvious reason.


Huh. Anytime I take Juxtapose, someone always takes Phantom Edge from me, 3/3 times. Why, no idea. Maybe think ult passive is OP, or just deliberately denying it.


Well at least it gives magic resistance.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
February 17 2014 18:05 GMT
#525
I actually got Juxtapose and Phantom Edge in a game yesterday, and combined it with Viper's Corrosive Skin. Was pretty fun since the magic resistance stacks and illusions get the passive too.
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
February 17 2014 19:01 GMT
#526
On February 17 2014 20:21 Fuzzmosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 17:37 SheaR619 wrote:
SNIP:
d if you get lucky and get Juxtopox then your pretty much guaranteed Phantom edge since no one will pick phantom edge for obvious reason.


Huh. Anytime I take Juxtapose, someone always takes Phantom Edge from me, 3/3 times. Why, no idea. Maybe think ult passive is OP, or just deliberately denying it.


Well I hope it not your own team that take it lol. Either way, forcing them to take Phantom edge is pretty good imo if they fear any sort of Jux + phantom combo. I think Jux can still have some usage even though you dont have phantom edge but phantom edge by itself is pretty useless for an ulti. Seems like you just have bad luck
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
evofantasy
Profile Joined December 2010
Malaysia17 Posts
February 17 2014 20:04 GMT
#527
was Sladar the game just now and I made a Naix 2.0

Q = Naix's rage
W = SpiritBreaker's bash
E = Naix's passive heal
R = Omno's guardian angel

it is basically just running in with phase/ drums and smashing stuffs. if needed, pop rage for magic immunity and GA for physical immunity. Sladar have one heck of a good base stat to begin. went 15-0-17 from it alone
GGitsJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand426 Posts
February 18 2014 14:16 GMT
#528
On February 17 2014 13:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
...25 minutes of fountain camping didn't strike you as repetitive?


You never stop having fun in a 5 man

On February 17 2014 14:08 Svetz wrote:
Wouldn't that be reportable?


Report away.
"A reason becomes an excuse if you don't do anything about it."
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
February 18 2014 19:32 GMT
#529
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 19:41:24
February 18 2014 19:40 GMT
#530
On February 19 2014 04:32 jinorazi wrote:
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.

Orbs don't, Split shot and other toggles used to work, but as far as I know all have been fixed. So you basically need spammable cheap skills, like Quillspray/Goo/Arcane bolt/Remnant, etc. Depends on your mana pool as well. It the same with Aftershock.

Enchant Totem can be pretty ridiculous with it.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
February 18 2014 20:36 GMT
#531
On February 17 2014 21:15 Velr wrote:
Bristle Spinethingy.
Bristle Goo.
Aftershock
Razor-Ult (or Warpath? Not sure anymore).

Yeah.. game lastet 15 mins or something like that :p.


I have no idea how you managed to get all of those skills lol
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 18 2014 20:47 GMT
#532
On February 19 2014 05:36 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 21:15 Velr wrote:
Bristle Spinethingy.
Bristle Goo.
Aftershock
Razor-Ult (or Warpath? Not sure anymore).

Yeah.. game lastet 15 mins or something like that :p.


I have no idea how you managed to get all of those skills lol

I got Aftershock, Earthshock (Ursa), Lighting Remnant and Ball Lighting once, on Dark Seer. I'm not sure I could theorycraft a better Aftershock combo.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
February 18 2014 21:22 GMT
#533
Ursa Fury swipes + winder ranger's focus fire was amazing. Essence shift + focus fire was really good aswell. I wonder how sick those 3 skills together would be.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
February 18 2014 23:25 GMT
#534
On February 19 2014 04:40 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 04:32 jinorazi wrote:
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.

Orbs don't, Split shot and other toggles used to work, but as far as I know all have been fixed. So you basically need spammable cheap skills, like Quillspray/Goo/Arcane bolt/Remnant, etc. Depends on your mana pool as well. It the same with Aftershock.

Enchant Totem can be pretty ridiculous with it.


has anyone tried overload + burning spear?
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
February 18 2014 23:29 GMT
#535
On February 19 2014 08:25 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 04:40 SKC wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:32 jinorazi wrote:
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.

Orbs don't, Split shot and other toggles used to work, but as far as I know all have been fixed. So you basically need spammable cheap skills, like Quillspray/Goo/Arcane bolt/Remnant, etc. Depends on your mana pool as well. It the same with Aftershock.

Enchant Totem can be pretty ridiculous with it.


has anyone tried overload + burning spear?



Spell triggers don't work with orbs, so wouldn't work.

I had goo + overload + warpath + nethertoxin on viper, that worked pretty well, but base cast animation felt too slow so it didn't feel as effective as it should be.

Got totally destroyed that game by a bristle with aftershock + static remnant + ball lightning.

He literally jumped on you, spammed ball lightning/remnant and kept you perma stunned until you died.

Somehow managed to kill him in second half of game then just desperately rushed throne before he respawned
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 23:47:23
February 18 2014 23:45 GMT
#536
On February 19 2014 08:29 Svetz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 08:25 jinorazi wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:40 SKC wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:32 jinorazi wrote:
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.

Orbs don't, Split shot and other toggles used to work, but as far as I know all have been fixed. So you basically need spammable cheap skills, like Quillspray/Goo/Arcane bolt/Remnant, etc. Depends on your mana pool as well. It the same with Aftershock.

Enchant Totem can be pretty ridiculous with it.


has anyone tried overload + burning spear?



Spell triggers don't work with orbs, so wouldn't work.

I had goo + overload + warpath + nethertoxin on viper, that worked pretty well, but base cast animation felt too slow so it didn't feel as effective as it should be.

Got totally destroyed that game by a bristle with aftershock + static remnant + ball lightning.

He literally jumped on you, spammed ball lightning/remnant and kept you perma stunned until you died.

Somehow managed to kill him in second half of game then just desperately rushed throne before he respawned


what does "orbs" mean? sorry, im dota 2 noob
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 18 2014 23:52 GMT
#537
On February 19 2014 08:45 jinorazi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 08:29 Svetz wrote:
On February 19 2014 08:25 jinorazi wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:40 SKC wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:32 jinorazi wrote:
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.

Orbs don't, Split shot and other toggles used to work, but as far as I know all have been fixed. So you basically need spammable cheap skills, like Quillspray/Goo/Arcane bolt/Remnant, etc. Depends on your mana pool as well. It the same with Aftershock.

Enchant Totem can be pretty ridiculous with it.


has anyone tried overload + burning spear?



Spell triggers don't work with orbs, so wouldn't work.

I had goo + overload + warpath + nethertoxin on viper, that worked pretty well, but base cast animation felt too slow so it didn't feel as effective as it should be.

Got totally destroyed that game by a bristle with aftershock + static remnant + ball lightning.

He literally jumped on you, spammed ball lightning/remnant and kept you perma stunned until you died.

Somehow managed to kill him in second half of game then just desperately rushed throne before he respawned


what does "orbs" mean? sorry, im dota 2 noob

Frost arrows, burning spears, poison attack, etc. The skills that change your attack and you are able to manually use or auto cast, and are still ranged even on melee heroes.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
February 19 2014 00:09 GMT
#538
Played a lovely game a few days ago as sven with

Razor ulti
Counter helix
Malefice (? don't know if that's the right name, 3 ticks of 1sec stun every 2 secs at max rank)
Reality Rift

So basically, reality rifted a squishy, malefice, pop razor ulti, and tank until death. Loads of fun ^^
Jo Byung Se #1 fan | CJ_Rush(reborn) fan | Liquid'Jinro(ret) fan | Liquid'Taeja fan | oGsTheSuperNada fan | Iris[gm](ret) fan |
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 00:37:07
February 19 2014 00:36 GMT
#539
On February 19 2014 08:52 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 08:45 jinorazi wrote:
On February 19 2014 08:29 Svetz wrote:
On February 19 2014 08:25 jinorazi wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:40 SKC wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:32 jinorazi wrote:
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.

Orbs don't, Split shot and other toggles used to work, but as far as I know all have been fixed. So you basically need spammable cheap skills, like Quillspray/Goo/Arcane bolt/Remnant, etc. Depends on your mana pool as well. It the same with Aftershock.

Enchant Totem can be pretty ridiculous with it.


has anyone tried overload + burning spear?



Spell triggers don't work with orbs, so wouldn't work.

I had goo + overload + warpath + nethertoxin on viper, that worked pretty well, but base cast animation felt too slow so it didn't feel as effective as it should be.

Got totally destroyed that game by a bristle with aftershock + static remnant + ball lightning.

He literally jumped on you, spammed ball lightning/remnant and kept you perma stunned until you died.

Somehow managed to kill him in second half of game then just desperately rushed throne before he respawned


what does "orbs" mean? sorry, im dota 2 noob

Frost arrows, burning spears, poison attack, etc. The skills that change your attack and you are able to manually use or auto cast, and are still ranged even on melee heroes.


On the other hand, OD's orb obviously procs essence aura, so there are always exceptions. I'm unsure if the exception is with the orb or aura. Stuff in AD is hard to sit down and actually test.

Also they definitely have not patched all the toggles. Mana shield and split shot trigger overload as of like yesterday. I'm not sure about other combinations.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-19 00:44:45
February 19 2014 00:44 GMT
#540
On February 19 2014 09:36 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 08:52 SKC wrote:
On February 19 2014 08:45 jinorazi wrote:
On February 19 2014 08:29 Svetz wrote:
On February 19 2014 08:25 jinorazi wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:40 SKC wrote:
On February 19 2014 04:32 jinorazi wrote:
what are some abilities to take advantage of overload?

does frost/searing arrows work with overload, along with other autocasts including morph?

i laned with someone with split shot and overload, it was the most hilarious/annoying thing i've seen early game.

Orbs don't, Split shot and other toggles used to work, but as far as I know all have been fixed. So you basically need spammable cheap skills, like Quillspray/Goo/Arcane bolt/Remnant, etc. Depends on your mana pool as well. It the same with Aftershock.

Enchant Totem can be pretty ridiculous with it.


has anyone tried overload + burning spear?



Spell triggers don't work with orbs, so wouldn't work.

I had goo + overload + warpath + nethertoxin on viper, that worked pretty well, but base cast animation felt too slow so it didn't feel as effective as it should be.

Got totally destroyed that game by a bristle with aftershock + static remnant + ball lightning.

He literally jumped on you, spammed ball lightning/remnant and kept you perma stunned until you died.

Somehow managed to kill him in second half of game then just desperately rushed throne before he respawned


what does "orbs" mean? sorry, im dota 2 noob

Frost arrows, burning spears, poison attack, etc. The skills that change your attack and you are able to manually use or auto cast, and are still ranged even on melee heroes.


On the other hand, OD's orb obviously procs essence aura, so there are always exceptions. I'm unsure if the exception is with the orb or aura. Stuff in AD is hard to sit down and actually test.

Also they definitely have not patched all the toggles. Mana shield and split shot trigger overload as of like yesterday. I'm not sure about other combinations.

Exception is on the Orb, it's like that specifically because of how OD works. I'm not sure how Impetus works. There's no general rule in Dota, there's always something weird that doesn't make sense. I picked Frost Arrows and Fury Swipes as a melee and both worked at the same time, even though they are both Unique Attack Modifiers.

I'm pretty sure I've read they patched out manaless toggles from OP combos, like Essence Aura, Static Field, etc, maybe Overload is also an exception.
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