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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
February 05 2014 11:55 GMT
#401
sniper with drow ult, drow aura, nethertoxin and rage for a free bkb, nuff said...BOOM BOOM
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
Zarathusta
Profile Joined September 2010
United States114 Posts
February 05 2014 13:39 GMT
#402
Sven's ult, with any passive critical skill. As long as you have a good primary stat gain, it lets you get huge crits with a minimal gear requirement.

Geminate attack on sniper is insane with his fast animation and projectile.

Any three stun build is crazy, and you can cast any spell from under riki or treant's invisibility. Combine these with the absence of wards in this mode, you can build a great initiator/ganker that is almost unstoppable.
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
February 05 2014 14:01 GMT
#403
A friend of mine encountered a guy who had Lina passive and Medusa shield. You can just spam the medusa ability, and you'll have an insane amount of attack speed throughout the entire game. That game made him not want to play AD anymore
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 05 2014 15:03 GMT
#404
On February 05 2014 22:39 Zarathusta wrote:

Any three stun build is crazy, and you can cast any spell from under riki or treant's invisibility. Combine these with the absence of wards in this mode, you can build a great initiator/ganker that is almost unstoppable.



I had naga with riki's invis, riptide and slardar stun. riptide pretty much instant, so i could just use riptide followed by the stun(the stun has more AOE now, so it won't miss)
Riptide took their armor, and sladar stuns was fisical, good overall dmg without being revealed.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
February 05 2014 15:17 GMT
#405
I concur with Riki ult being the best support pick.

I ran a Lich with Echo Stomp, Ancestral Spirit, Hoof Stomp, and Riki Ult. Oh man, the ganks. The Gankssss
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
February 05 2014 15:59 GMT
#406
What happens with meepo ult on non-meepo? do you get meepos as you level it or more clones of yourself?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 16:06:59
February 05 2014 16:03 GMT
#407
Meepo abilities and base model can't show up in AD. There's a lot of heroes like that, including all heroes with more than 4 total possible abilities including subabilities (puck, beastmaster etc are disallowed based on this).
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
February 05 2014 17:56 GMT
#408
Ah I was wondering how it handled skills that took up multiple slots, that answers that for me as well.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
February 05 2014 18:10 GMT
#409
I wish ogre was in the pool. Multicast must be ridiculous with so many things. Multicast + storm bolt = fist of the North Star.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 05 2014 18:14 GMT
#410
yeah that wouldn't be a pain in the ass to code...
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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 18:29:10
February 05 2014 18:22 GMT
#411
Why? You have coding for rng. You have coding for picking a random target in a given radius. You have coding for a slot noise. What more do you want?

Just make it not work for ground targeted spells or channeled spells.

Hell make it pick a random point on the ground for ground targeted spells. Same way as edict or freezing fields.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-05 18:50:32
February 05 2014 18:48 GMT
#412
The complexity depends on how hero abilities are implemented to begin with. The way Multicast works, it has to be made to interact with most spells. Because it's originally intended for use by one hero, I don't think it is coded in a way that it transforms other skills on the fly. What likely happens behind the scenes is that Ogre's skills have built-in multicast states that activate when the ultimate is leveled. This makes applying it to custom spells a massive pain in the ass, as you would have to add a multicast variant to each of the other spells.

Also Multicast normally grants Unrefined Fireblast as well, and Ability Draft doesn't allow heroes with more than four slots.

Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
February 05 2014 22:12 GMT
#413
After having played this a few times some things I noticed are:

- don't get too many spells on a strength or agility hero; having a 3x stun Earthshaker sounds nice but it's useless of your oom after 2 spells.
- Tidebringer is insane if you combo it with anything. Winning a teamfight is pretty easy if you crit Tidebringer with Coup de Grace.
- Track is a really really good spell. I don't think there's a single ability I would pick over this.
Rodberd
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany531 Posts
February 05 2014 22:30 GMT
#414
On February 06 2014 03:48 Talin wrote:
Also Multicast normally grants Unrefined Fireblast as well, and Ability Draft doesn't allow heroes with more than four slots.

you get unrefined only when using ahgs on ogre.




i found it quite helpful to use track on supports when there are only offensive ults to pick.

my dream-setup:
- treants
- eidolons
- summon wolfs (or replace with NP-tele)
- CK ult

combine this with a necro3 and similar stuff, might be messy
Ooooh, look at it go
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
February 05 2014 23:38 GMT
#415
On February 06 2014 07:30 Rodberd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 03:48 Talin wrote:
Also Multicast normally grants Unrefined Fireblast as well, and Ability Draft doesn't allow heroes with more than four slots.

you get unrefined only when using ahgs on ogre.




i found it quite helpful to use track on supports when there are only offensive ults to pick.

my dream-setup:
- treants
- eidolons
- summon wolfs (or replace with NP-tele)
- CK ult

combine this with a necro3 and similar stuff, might be messy


What about re-arm instead? Oh my god can you imagine the tree eidolon army?
Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
February 06 2014 03:25 GMT
#416
On February 06 2014 08:38 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2014 07:30 Rodberd wrote:
On February 06 2014 03:48 Talin wrote:
Also Multicast normally grants Unrefined Fireblast as well, and Ability Draft doesn't allow heroes with more than four slots.

you get unrefined only when using ahgs on ogre.




i found it quite helpful to use track on supports when there are only offensive ults to pick.

my dream-setup:
- treants
- eidolons
- summon wolfs (or replace with NP-tele)
- CK ult

combine this with a necro3 and similar stuff, might be messy


What about re-arm instead? Oh my god can you imagine the tree eidolon army?


Tree, eidolan, teleport, rearm

That has to be the quickest combo to finish a game

But imagine how much cash you would feed a decent cleaver!
When I grow up I want to be Harry Dresden ;(
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
February 06 2014 03:37 GMT
#417
Had enchantress and grabbed strafe+impetus+shackleshot for myself, but turned out pretty shitty since enchantress has such shit stat growth that you'll either die or not have enough mana to make a meaningful difference.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 06 2014 04:11 GMT
#418
how about this build
SICKEST TINY EVER

my team was insanely bad too , i thought we were fucked

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eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 06 2014 04:57 GMT
#419
I've since come around to the "draft as many disables as you can support on your manabase" philosophy, but I did have one game where I got lina with Fiery Soul, Nasal Goo, Huskar Berserker's Blood and God's Strength - pewpewpew.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
kvltmanifesto
Profile Joined February 2014
4 Posts
February 06 2014 05:41 GMT
#420
blowing people up seems to be the preferred way to go
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