EPTYou probably can't trust it to any kind of longevity, which is exacerbated by it being used, and certainly not near full power, but an i3/GTX 750 won't stress it much. Depends what you really want from the computer, but I wouldn't want to use it.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You probably can't trust it to any kind of longevity, which is exacerbated by it being used, and certainly not near full power, but an i3/GTX 750 won't stress it much. Depends what you really want from the computer, but I wouldn't want to use it. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Dunmer
United Kingdom568 Posts
I remember a few pages back one of the blue posters said you can get away with a t shirt | ||
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bluegarfield
Singapore1128 Posts
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Rubbing alcohol (or, not quite as good, a good stiff vodka) just makes life easier because alcohol not only removes the thermal paste easier, it also evaporates really quickly. If you use damp cotton, check to make sure you don't leave behind fibers, and wait some time after removing the thermal paste to do anything else (to make sure any water dries up). Basically: Rubbing alcohol = very cheap, the trip to the store is probably quicker than the time you should wait to make sure water dries Vodka = don't have to go to the store, have to wait longer than rubbing alcohol, less time than water Water = screw it, it comes out of the tap, but now I have to wait hours or spend a lot of time waving a fan over the CPU/Mobo (or risk that a visual inspection is sufficient to ensure everything is dry) | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Used graphics cards are going to work basically as good as a new one, or be broken-beyond-repair. There are basically two ways it can be broken: the cooling no longer works/fans are unbearably loud or it's a brick. If you're buying off craigslist, have the seller come to your house (or take your computer to his), visually inspect the fans, then install the card, check that it works, and pay the money after the install. If you can find a seller willing to wait that amount of time. Also, make sure you check that you're getting the advertised model (meaning, don't buy a 960 when the guy says its a 980). Rarely, an aggressive overclocker may have degraded the quality of the card, but frankly I don't think it's a major concern. Personally, I would not buy from craigslist without the above restrictions due to the lack of a feedback rating keeping sellers in line. If you were buying from somewhere like the marketplace on overclock.net, I'd be more confident in a working product without checking it. But then, the prices for used items on overclock.net generally convince me buying new is worth the extra $5. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
But then, the prices for used items on overclock.net generally convince me buying new is worth the extra $5. There's a lot of good stuff. A guy sold a pair of good z87 boards for $50 each recently, haswell i5 for $100 etc. The good deals don't stay up for long though. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24329 Posts
On April 26 2015 02:35 MisterFred wrote: @Hyren Used graphics cards are going to work basically as good as a new one, or be broken-beyond-repair. There are basically two ways it can be broken: the cooling no longer works/fans are unbearably loud or it's a brick. If you're buying off craigslist, have the seller come to your house (or take your computer to his), visually inspect the fans, then install the card, check that it works, and pay the money after the install. If you can find a seller willing to wait that amount of time. Also, make sure you check that you're getting the advertised model (meaning, don't buy a 960 when the guy says its a 980). Rarely, an aggressive overclocker may have degraded the quality of the card, but frankly I don't think it's a major concern. Personally, I would not buy from craigslist without the above restrictions due to the lack of a feedback rating keeping sellers in line. If you were buying from somewhere like the marketplace on overclock.net, I'd be more confident in a working product without checking it. But then, the prices for used items on overclock.net generally convince me buying new is worth the extra $5. I would just add that I thought about selling my card on CL a few times and I was always torn on whether I would mention the HDMI port got broken. So I would suggest making sure all ports work correctly too. It's not terribly different from buying a car on CL. Some people tell you everything that is wrong with it, others might mention some of the problems, still others pretend like it's a cherry classic. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On April 26 2015 03:02 Cyro wrote: There's a lot of good stuff. A guy sold a pair of good z87 boards for $50 each recently, haswell i5 for $100 etc. The good deals don't stay up for long though. all the good deals are in america q_q well you find a good deal in europe as well on ebay, on ocassion i have monies coming up soon from internship, i kind of want a new monitor but damn all that shit is expensive | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
On April 26 2015 06:44 Incognoto wrote: all the good deals are in america q_q well you find a good deal in europe as well on ebay, on ocassion i have monies coming up soon from internship, i kind of want a new monitor but damn all that shit is expensive They don't seem to like dieing though. My secondary monitor is one that was in my family for ages before i got my first widescreen monitor in 2008. It's probably well over a decade old  They hold value pretty well too compared to some other PC parts. Monitor tech at the same price point has been advancing painfully slowly, so if it works then it's all good for somebody else to use. We have those fancy 144hz gsync monitors and sure they're better than 5 year old stuff, but they cost three times as much as well - not like comparing a gtx580 to a 960 (way under half of the price, less power, substantially faster) that deal in particular: - Intel Haswell 4570 (non-k) - $100 (will throw in two motherboards with it for $50 for both and you can use whichever one you like more - MSI z87 G55 & ASRock Extreme 4 Z87) - Intel Sandy Bridge 2500k + Gigabyte Z77 UD5H (one of the best z77 boards that I paid over $200 for) - $150 for both of them together. - EVGA Supernova 1000w gold PSU - $90 (bought it in 2014 and one of the better PSUs you can get) I saw the topic 3 minutes after it was created and somebody had already sniped half of the stuff | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
I've got another two from 2010 and 2011 that are still going strong without issues. And these were all average TN monitors. At least in my experience monitors last a pretty good amount of time. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
But that has more to do with age than the advancement of technology, really. Kind of. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
i kind of want to try 144 hz but I also want to try IPS and there's nothing that actually does both without really breaking the wallet. i'm still fine at 1080p is a nice size as well | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
On April 26 2015 11:50 Myrmidon wrote: Hm, monitors that old are probably CFL-backlit models. The colors can drift over time appreciably (more so than LED-backlit models). They are. I'm sure the colors have drifted a bit, but two of them sit next to U2313HMs and the color difference isn't much. | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey781 Posts
Seasonic 350SFE Is this one Ok for an i3+gtx750 setup? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Low-end unpainted models by Seasonic are okay, with worse longevity than their retail models (not because of the paint, of course, but the other cost-cutting measures). They frequently have shorter cables too. That's an old and discontinued model but should be reasonable. However, do you realize it's an SFX model? The dimensions are smaller than the much more widely used ATX format, though the cabling is compatible. The screw holes on a case for an ATX power supply won't be in the correct positions for an SFX power supply. Some SFX power supplies come with an adapter plate; something like this won't. | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey781 Posts
On April 27 2015 05:08 Myrmidon wrote: You're buying locally and are just linking a page for some kind of informational purposes, right? Yes. Low-end unpainted models by Seasonic are okay, with worse longevity than their retail models (not because of the paint, of course, but the other cost-cutting measures). They frequently have shorter cables too. That's an old and discontinued model but should be reasonable. However, do you realize it's an SFX model? The dimensions are smaller than the much more widely used ATX format, though the cabling is compatible. The screw holes on a case for an ATX power supply won't be in the correct positions for an SFX power supply. Some SFX power supplies come with an adapter plate; something like this won't. Hmm, I didn't know about the size issue, thanks for mentioning it. So it won't fit on a standard mATX. Outside-US price issue is more serious when it comes to PSU's. There are cheap locally manufactured brands but I can't be sure they won't fry my motherboard. | ||
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EdVonSchleck
11 Posts
can I get some feedback on my planned build: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/9CcwXL I am particularly interested in your opinions on the PSU. Also, I might toss out the Optical Drive. What is your budget? 1400€ max. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1080p What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Newer games like Shadows of Mordor, high settings if possible What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing relevant Do you intend to overclock? Not sure yet Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No and no If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. I'd like to go with the GeForce 970 and yes, I'm aware of the recent uproar about the 4gb/3.5gb video memory thing. What country will you be buying your parts in? Germany If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. No Edit: Forgot to mention, I'd like a quiet system. I know it's always a tradeoff, but I'd be willing to spend a little more on components if they are silent. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The Enermax cooler is not very good for the price, though. For just a little more you can get a Thermalrigth HR-02 Macho; better options that are cheaper are also available. Double check height and clearance with the case once you decide on a case. The WD Purple hard drives are optimized for a very specific type of workload and probably aren't as good for consumer use. I think the Red (which has some features useful for NAS but is fine for general storage usage) or Green (general storage) models may be quieter too, though maybe not. In any case, the Purple is an unconventional and maybe inappropriate choice. That's not really a good price on a Corsair 200R and you probably want a case with less direct holes and paths for noise to escape. Even if you don't spend up to say the Fractal Design Define level, there are some alternatives. Actually, if you're not interested in an optical drive, the very new Define S is a bit cheaper. From Corsair, the cheapest reasonable option may be the 330R. The power supply is somewhere you can save money because you can find actively cooled options that are sufficiently quiet enough for the power draws you're looking at. Once you hit the CPU and GPU hard enough, their fans (or even a hard drive spinning) may make more noise than the quieter actively cooled power supplies, sometimes by a lot. That said, the 970 Strix is a lot quieter than many other cards. You could use the Cooler Master VS series or if you want to skimp, maybe one of the lower-end Be Quiet models. | ||
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