EPTTo be honest, if you need to get a Windows license, some kind of Dell / Lenovo / whatever on a sale will be cheaper.
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
To be honest, if you need to get a Windows license, some kind of Dell / Lenovo / whatever on a sale will be cheaper. | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On August 10 2014 11:51 Myrmidon wrote: Which CanadaComputers location? To be honest, if you need to get a Windows license, some kind of Dell / Lenovo / whatever on a sale will be cheaper. Waterloo is the closest. I do have an older OS that I can give to them so I'm not too concerned about that. I can look into your suggestions as an alternative, though. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Though at this point you may want to consider replacing the power supply, and you'd need to check its dimensions. Some smaller cases use TFX or SFX or something else. I mean, the cost of the build is really just LGA 1150 Celeron - $50 LGA 1150 motherboard (might need to be microATX or miniITX in some specific dimensions depending on the case) - $60-70 4 GB DDR3 RAM - $45 hard drive / SSD - $50+ (may be worth going for some 240 GB SSD or so, as that's only $100ish these days) optical drive (I guess) that uses SATA - $15 case and power supply - depends | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On August 11 2014 02:30 Myrmidon wrote: Actually, what's the old case look like? You could just gut that. It's not like standards have changed that make things somehow not compatible with newer motherboards, unless you have some proprietary design on your hands. An old microATX case will take newer microATX boards fine, for example. Though at this point you may want to consider replacing the power supply, and you'd need to check its dimensions. Some smaller cases use TFX or SFX or something else. I mean, the cost of the build is really just LGA 1150 Celeron - $50 LGA 1150 motherboard (might need to be microATX or miniITX in some specific dimensions depending on the case) - $60-70 4 GB DDR3 RAM - $45 hard drive / SSD - $50+ (may be worth going for some 240 GB SSD or so, as that's only $100ish these days) optical drive (I guess) that uses SATA - $15 case and power supply - depends The old case is a pretty standard thing, I think. It's a run of the mill smaller tower, maybe 2 feet tall at the most, with a little window on the side. They didn't give me the specs for it. I imagine it'll work for a new board. I know very little about the less expensive parts and how they'll perform the tasks I mentioned. I imagine that anything current will be leagues better than what they have now (Pentium 4 2.4 GHz, 1GB RAM). | ||
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GuiBz
Canada108 Posts
I would like to change my motherboard, because I have a shitty one. In addition, I was thinking about adding a sound card, because I have a very good headset. This is my computer setup: -Intel i7 - 2600K -ASUS GTX 770 -Capstone 550M (power supply "Gold") I dont know for the rest, but do you have any suggestion? My budget can go up to 150$ - 200$. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 11 2014 03:48 Mjolnir wrote: The old case is a pretty standard thing, I think. It's a run of the mill smaller tower, maybe 2 feet tall at the most, with a little window on the side. They didn't give me the specs for it. I imagine it'll work for a new board. I know very little about the less expensive parts and how they'll perform the tasks I mentioned. I imagine that anything current will be leagues better than what they have now (Pentium 4 2.4 GHz, 1GB RAM). Anything will work as long as it's not Atom / Jaguar or lower. And even modern Atom / Jaguar might be plenty fast for them. Most enthusiast cases that are way too big are shorter than 2 feet, btw. I guess if you're not pegging it closer to 1 foot and didn't mention it being particularly thin, it might be a standard size and more standard width (greater than 6" wide), which would mean it probably supports a regular ATX power supply. On August 11 2014 04:04 GuiBz wrote: I would like to change my motherboard, because I have a shitty one. In addition, I was thinking about adding a sound card, because I have a very good headset. What's wrong with your current motherboard? Usually replacing motherboards to same socket is a good way to waste money, but it depends on what you need and of course doesn't apply if the motherboard doesn't work or causes crashes or something (and is out of warranty). Also, what's the headset? Dedicated audio electronics is often not worth it unless you have fairly exacting needs in terms of input/output capability or not enough volume or something like that, possibly more specialized gear than just a headset. That said, it's not the case whenever the integrated onboard audio has audible issues like hums or dropouts or whatever else, but if you were to actually get a new motherboard, maybe the integrated audio wouldn't have those kinds of issues. | ||
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GuiBz
Canada108 Posts
I recently change my HDD, my graphic card and my power supply. | ||
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Marmy
Iran1697 Posts
What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? A lot of different types. Ranging from League to Arkham City. Preferably high settings though What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? I want to stream, I have been wanting to for a while now. Do you intend to overclock? It is likely I will intend to overclock Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No Do you need an operating system? Yes Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Don't I have any What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Don't have any | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
Motherboard: Asus ROG Maximus VII Hero CPU: Intel Core i7-4790k Graphics card: ASUS GeForce GTX780 Ti DirectCU II OC Case: Corsair Carbide Air540 CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Corsair Vengeance LP 2x8GB SSD: Samsung 850 Pro 512 GB HDD: WD Black 4TB PSU: Cooler Master V550S Questionnaire and such + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? Around 20 000 SEK excluding Windows What is your monitor's native resolution? 2560x1440@60Hz What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? All sorts of games, all sorts of genres on at least high. Civilization, CSGO, Dota2, Europa Universalis 4, Euro Truck Simulator 2 , Kerbal Space Program , Starbound, Street Fighter and much more. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Developing games with Unity and/or Unreal Engine. Writing code with Visual Studio. Studying, reading stuff, writing documents. Usual everyday stuff. Do you intend to overclock? Yes Do you intend to do SLI? No Do you need an operating system? Yes, Windows 8.1 (Directly from Microsoft due to student discount) Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Air CPU cooler Nvidia graphics card What country will you be buying your parts in? Sweden If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Webhallen, Komplett Other information I went with a ROG MoBo because of the aesthetics and because it comes with some functionality that could be relevant for game development for me | ||
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mdamda
63 Posts
Seasonic M12II Evo 500+W is a good starting point. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Since you're pro, I'm guessing the PRO SSD is useful to you? That PSU is actually a very decent budget unit I think: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/V550S/11.html The new CM V series are Seasonic OEM, pretty good quality and they're well priced. I'm guessing better PSUs might be used, but you'd have to pay more. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 11 2014 15:41 Incognoto wrote: @Windwolf Since you're pro, I'm guessing the PRO SSD is useful to you? That PSU is actually a very decent budget unit I think: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CoolerMaster/V550S/11.html The new CM V series are Seasonic OEM, pretty good quality and they're well priced. I'm guessing better PSUs might be used, but you'd have to pay more. Yeah, 512 GB SSD will be enough. I know that there are some 1TB models at around the same price range, but since I know that 512GB will be more than enough (Since I'll have plenty of HDD space + a NAS), I'd rather put my money towards a little faster speeds and better product overall (I mean, would Samsung really put a 10-year warranty on a bad product) And when it comes to PSU, as long as the model does not suck I can go with anything. I know Linus Sebastian reviewed the 650W model (IDK if it uses the same internals) and he seemed pretty happy with it overall. | ||
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mdamda
63 Posts
It appears the V550S isn't made by Seasonic. TPU says the OEM is a company called Enhance. No good reviews out there, so I'll say -- My money on at least a Seasonic G550. | ||
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Intact
Sweden634 Posts
Moving from Sweden to UK to study, I figured this would be nice time to build a small gaming rig that I can carry in a backpack on the flight and do some upgrades to my terribly outdated rig. I'm looking for something to play WoW, dota 2 and CS GO on say medium graphics @1080p with decent fps and trying to get away with spending as little as possible. Right now I have a i3 530 @2.93, 6 GB ram, GTS 450. I have this case in mind: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-304-black Obviously the MOBO needs to be mITX and a new processor should be top priority. Might be able to rip the ram and PSU from the old pc depending on dimensions. Any suggestions on suitable CPUs and/or GPUs, or portable builds in general? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 11 2014 21:58 Intact wrote: + Show Spoiler + Need advice on portable gaming pc. Moving from Sweden to UK to study, I figured this would be nice time to build a small gaming rig that I can carry in a backpack on the flight and do some upgrades to my terribly outdated rig. I'm looking for something to play WoW, dota 2 and CS GO on say medium graphics @1080p with decent fps and trying to get away with spending as little as possible. Right now I have a i3 530 @2.93, 6 GB ram, GTS 450. I have this case in mind: http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/node-series/node-304-black Obviously the MOBO needs to be mITX and a new processor should be top priority. Might be able to rip the ram and PSU from the old pc depending on dimensions. Any suggestions on suitable CPUs and/or GPUs, or portable builds in general? If you don't need a bunch of drives and a large CPU cooler, you can get the Silverstone Sugo SG05 (or SG06), which is almost half the volume. Node 304's 374 mm depth is in the range of smaller midtowers. For the Node 304 in particular, you would need to check PSU depth, yeah. Reuse RAM and the hard drive, anyway. What's "as little as possible" mean? You could get a low-end dual core, but that wouldn't really be much of an upgrade. With those games, can't you just keep the GTS 450 for now? | ||
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Intact
Sweden634 Posts
On August 12 2014 00:24 Myrmidon wrote: It's not a secret. V550S is good but not top tier, and there are plenty of reviews. Most wouldn't particularly call it a worse level than G550. If you don't need a bunch of drives and a large CPU cooler, you can get the Silverstone Sugo SG05 (or SG06), which is almost half the volume. Node 304's 374 mm depth is in the range of smaller midtowers. For the Node 304 in particular, you would need to check PSU depth, yeah. Reuse RAM and the hard drive, anyway. What's "as little as possible" mean? You could get a low-end dual core, but that wouldn't really be much of an upgrade. With those games, can't you just keep the GTS 450 for now? That case does look perfect. I just wanted to know what the best value upgrade would be since the CPU is pretty crap. Also, the i3 530 is a 1156 socket? I cant seem to find any mITX boards with that socket | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Lothor
United States10 Posts
Is there any data about what kind of gpu is necessary to run sc2 at 4k/60hz+? How does increased resolution scale with sc2, considering the aspect ratio is the same? Cyro, you did an analysis on sc2 and microstutter. You mentioned that it is easier to notice at higher framerates. As hardware improves over time, will microstutter become more and more of a concern for new pc builders/players? Won't this cause issues with longevity for sc2? I want to bring awareness of this issue to Blizzard as an opportunity to update the engine, also encouraging the update to utilize multi-core support, and hopefully #fixSC2 with the release of LoTV! Thanks! | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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