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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 27 2014 05:12 GMT
#6601
On June 27 2014 05:39 Cyro wrote:
Was looking for another bench and fell upon this~ http://www.corsair.com/en/blog/2014/march/haswellrealworld

they list sc2 with significant performance increases. It IS corsair, but backs up benches that i did before

Does it mean that 1600MHz Memory is suddenly bad?
Is there any low-profile memory that supports higher frequencies than 1600?
EZ4ENCE
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 05:24:10
June 27 2014 05:22 GMT
#6602
It just means that starcraft 2, as a game, works a bit better with faster RAM. 10% ish is more than I would have thought though.

It's not that 1600 MHz is bad, it's just that 2400 MHz RAM is better; the same way that a Haswell i5 at stock clocks isn't bad, it's just that a Haswell i5 at 4.5 GHz is much better.

Most 2400 MHz RAM kits aren't that much more expensive than 1600 MHz RAM kits, though it's important to make sure that your motherboard supports the higher frequencies. Getting faster than 1600 MHz RAM on a B85 board for example isn't worth it for example. Most Z87 and Z97 boards should run faster RAM no problem though.

Try to look for a 2400 MHz @1.5V RAM kit, priced similarly to 1600 MHz if you can. I'm guessing 2400 @ 1.65V would also work.

So you would want this:

http://www.amazon.fr/G-Skill-F3-2400C11D-8GXM/dp/B00COGLBPQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1403846451&sr=1-1&keywords=RAM 2400

Over this:

http://www.amazon.fr/G-Skill-F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL/dp/B004I763AW/ref=pd_cp_computers_1#productDetails

Not sure what your retailer is or I would have used that.



E: Ps, this is quite nice, youtube going to finally reach about 24 fps with 48 and 60 fps supporting coming. about time

http://kotaku.com/youtube-is-getting-60-fps-support-finally-1596759330
maru lover forever
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 27 2014 05:39 GMT
#6603
Here's the low-profile version of what Incognoto linked to:

http://www.amazon.fr/G-Skill-F3-2400C11D-8GAB/dp/B00CMWRTTY/

The other brands perhaps work similarly and will also have a low-profile version of all their stuff under a slightly different name?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 06:09:27
June 27 2014 06:06 GMT
#6604
On June 27 2014 14:12 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 05:39 Cyro wrote:
Was looking for another bench and fell upon this~ http://www.corsair.com/en/blog/2014/march/haswellrealworld

they list sc2 with significant performance increases. It IS corsair, but backs up benches that i did before

Does it mean that 1600MHz Memory is suddenly bad?
Is there any low-profile memory that supports higher frequencies than 1600?


A lot of stuff doesn't perform better when you increase the performance of one part of your system, it's just saying that you can expect an FPS return from running faster memory

Try to look for a 2400 MHz @1.5V RAM kit, priced similarly to 1600 MHz if you can. I'm guessing 2400 @ 1.65V would also work.


There's little reason to run 1.5v and you shouldn't do it when it compromises performance, in the case here i'd probably destroy those modules in benchmarks (tight 2200 c9 vs what is often just loose 2400 c11 with single sided hynix sticks)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 27 2014 06:08 GMT
#6605
On June 27 2014 14:39 Ropid wrote:
Here's the low-profile version of what Incognoto linked to:

http://www.amazon.fr/G-Skill-F3-2400C11D-8GAB/dp/B00CMWRTTY/

The other brands perhaps work similarly and will also have a low-profile version of all their stuff under a slightly different name?


ah thanks for that

so "ares" is the name they slap on to low profile ram? that's good to know

RAM heatsinks are just silly :p
maru lover forever
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
June 27 2014 06:19 GMT
#6606
That sure doesn't look like low profile RAM, just normal sized.

Compare these:
[image loading]
[image loading]

As for branding, probably Ares just more or less refers to a particular line of RAM that happens to have similarly matching heatspreaders, but I wouldn't expect that to encompass all their offerings of that physical size. Isn't really much available to read on the "Ares" line itself.
twitch.tv/cratonz
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 27 2014 06:22 GMT
#6607
On June 27 2014 14:39 Ropid wrote:
Here's the low-profile version of what Incognoto linked to:

http://www.amazon.fr/G-Skill-F3-2400C11D-8GAB/dp/B00CMWRTTY/

The other brands perhaps work similarly and will also have a low-profile version of all their stuff under a slightly different name?

Can't find that particular model among the Swedish retailers I looked at.

Would HyperX Fury 1866 be another viable option that is a bit faster than 1600
EZ4ENCE
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 06:26:09
June 27 2014 06:23 GMT
#6608
link us your retailer maybe

oh and ty skyr
maru lover forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 27 2014 06:26 GMT
#6609
Wait.. what did I do?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
June 27 2014 06:28 GMT
#6610
You posted information where I learned something. isn't that enough? :p

"ares" wasn't what I thought it was.
maru lover forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 06:34:04
June 27 2014 06:30 GMT
#6611
I think you are mistaking me for Ropid or Craton LOL

Low profile encompasses any modules under 41mm 31mm in height and anything under 20mm would be classified as ULP I guess.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 06:38:24
June 27 2014 06:38 GMT
#6612
Same icon

wow

i actually use icons to identify people now? hahaha i'm so sorry


thank you Craton! ( :

(time for breakfast i guess)
maru lover forever
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 27 2014 07:24 GMT
#6613
Here's the NH-D15 compatibility guide on Noctua's website (I think that was the cooler that WindWolf wanted):

http://noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_gen&products_id=68&lng=en

They say you want 32mm height for RAM, which is "standard height". That Ares stuff is not even that I think. It seems while it has somewhat normal sized heatspreaders, those are still several mm higher than the naked memory stick would be, and that's what's 32mm.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 27 2014 07:33 GMT
#6614
Ares is 32mm. All the stuff that don't have spikes are 32mm
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
June 27 2014 08:30 GMT
#6615
On June 27 2014 15:23 Incognoto wrote:
link us your retailer maybe

oh and ty skyr

http://www.webhallen.com/se-sv/datorkomponenter/minnen/ddr3/namn/

(DDR3 subsection of my preferred retailer, sorted by name)
On June 27 2014 16:24 Ropid wrote:
Here's the NH-D15 compatibility guide on Noctua's website (I think that was the cooler that WindWolf wanted):

http://noctua.at/main.php?show=compatibility_gen&products_id=68&lng=en

They say you want 32mm height for RAM, which is "standard height". That Ares stuff is not even that I think. It seems while it has somewhat normal sized heatspreaders, those are still several mm higher than the naked memory stick would be, and that's what's 32mm.

Yep, that's the one I wanted. Seems to perform really well compared to AIO Liquid Coolers
EZ4ENCE
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 28 2014 02:47 GMT
#6616
Hey guys I recently got the corsairs 200R case http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-200r-compact-atx-case and it came with two fans an outtake and an intake. The one mounted in the front as the intake is causing vibrations that makes this low hummm and i dunno if i can leave it like it is. Is it possible to do something to the case to lessen vibrations? If i cant fix the vibrations then can i mount the fan on the top of the case (the link has pictures to the case) as the intake fan instead right above my GPU and motherboard ?
JD, need I say more? :D
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 03:19:31
June 28 2014 03:04 GMT
#6617
On June 28 2014 11:47 LimeNade wrote:
Hey guys I recently got the corsairs 200R case http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-200r-compact-atx-case and it came with two fans an outtake and an intake. The one mounted in the front as the intake is causing vibrations that makes this low hummm and i dunno if i can leave it like it is. Is it possible to do something to the case to lessen vibrations? If i cant fix the vibrations then can i mount the fan on the top of the case (the link has pictures to the case) as the intake fan instead right above my GPU and motherboard ?

For exactly that problem, there are silicone mount thingies like this here for example:

http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Ultra-Soft-Silicone-Mounts/dp/B001AZJJE2/

Those are intended to replace the metal screws.

EDIT: Looking at pictures of a review of the case, that particular product might not fit. They are designed for a fan where the fan's frame looks like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


In that review I looked at, the fan has long tube like holes that go through the whole width of the fan. What I linked to won't work for something like that, but there might be something similar that will.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
June 28 2014 03:18 GMT
#6618
On June 28 2014 12:04 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 11:47 LimeNade wrote:
Hey guys I recently got the corsairs 200R case http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-200r-compact-atx-case and it came with two fans an outtake and an intake. The one mounted in the front as the intake is causing vibrations that makes this low hummm and i dunno if i can leave it like it is. Is it possible to do something to the case to lessen vibrations? If i cant fix the vibrations then can i mount the fan on the top of the case (the link has pictures to the case) as the intake fan instead right above my GPU and motherboard ?

For exactly that problem, there are silicone mount thingies like this here for example:

http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Ultra-Soft-Silicone-Mounts/dp/B001AZJJE2/

Those are intended to replace the metal screws.

EDIT: Looking at pictures of a review of the case, that particular product might not fit. They are designed for a fan where the frame looks like this:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


In that review I looked at, there's no holes on the fan, instead it's one long tube like hole that goes through the whole length of the fan. What I linked to won't work for something like that, but there might be something similar that will.


Would it be bad to mount the intake directly above my gpu and motherboard? For some reason the back one doesnt make any noise because its mounted onto the metal cage. But the front one is mounted behind the front panel with maybe .5-1 inch long holes on either side for vents
JD, need I say more? :D
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
June 28 2014 03:21 GMT
#6619
No idea, but you could simply try it and look at the temperatures and compare.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-28 03:26:18
June 28 2014 03:24 GMT
#6620
On June 28 2014 12:21 Ropid wrote:
No idea, but you could simply try it and look at the temperatures and compare.


I meant like will it be bad at all to have air directly blowing on them all the time?
JD, need I say more? :D
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