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On June 25 2014 00:43 BlACKTrA wrote:
i am not sure whether i need to upgrade my whole PC or just mainboard, CPU and RAM !
My current specs are:
AMD athlon || x4 635 @ 4*2,9 Ghz
a new decent cooler , compatible for all CPU
4gd DDR3 RAM 1333mhz
ASUS m4a87td evo Mainboard which can only run AM3 not AM3+ ?!?!?! (google gives no results)
Radeon HD 6870
530 Watt Power Supply
Samsung 840 Evo SSD 120 GB
old tower computer case which is not that good
What is your budget?
Either ~ 250-30 € for mainboard , CPU & RAM
or ~ 500-600 € for new PC without OS , SSD and power supply
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920*1080 + second monitor : 1280*1024
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
CS:GO at native resolution (1920*1080) and low graphic settings
LoL at native resolution and low graphic settings
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Streaming and watching 2 streams during gaming
Do you intend to overclock?
only if really needed
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
No , I have a 64 bit OS of my choice
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no
What country will you be buying your parts in?
germany
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
amazon.de
Are you having performance issues with LoL/CSGO? I think in this case you just need new CPU, they're not difficult games to run on max or especially low settings
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sometimes when joining a server with more people and watching a stream or having the browser in the backround
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Watching a stream shouldn't really tax your system (AFAIK) so maybe grab MSI Afterburner and/or www.hwinfo.com and check cpu+GPU clock speeds while playing the game. There was a bug that got some AMD cards stuck at lower clock speeds while running flash player alongside something else demanding to the GPU
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Neither of those are particularly demanding*, you could get by with a decent 400W unit or a mediocre but not catastrophic 500W unit. Not sure about the Hexa 500, if it's the same build as the Hexa 400 then it's an OK budget unit:
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=341
Not a PSU I'd get I would think, but it should do the job well enough to warrant not needing to buy another PSU.
*Unless you don't have enough connectors for all your stuff that is.
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yea no need to freak out about "only" a 500w psu for a gpu that uses 200w at max overclock and 100% load. Maybe check the 12v rails because i think it said it was dual rail but didn't have an amp rating on the site, etc. Most "good" PSU's around 430-450w can easily power i5 and a 770
780ti consumes like 1.7x as much power at similar clock speeds
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If you're getting one of those monitors (i own that one) then there's no reason not to wait for the vastly superior models releasing in q2/q3 of this year with g-sync and improved strobing (at the very least, more refresh rate options for strobed, as well as better colors/contrast during)
Some people cite the cost of the vg248qe pcb-replacement g-sync thing to say that g-sync is expensive, but it shouldn't add anywhere near that much cost when it's actually integrated into monitors, they just have not released any native gsync/ulmb monitors yet
If you're at all interested in >60hz, give http://www.blurbusters.com/ half an hour of your time, lots of cool stuff to read about there
I see they just added this image recently, which is cool:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/31zp7Gyl.jpg)
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My old computer (~2007) is slowly falling apart. No hurry or anything, but I'm looking to replace it and know nothing about computer parts these days, so any input would be appreciated. 
I have an external sound card and a PSU that's far newer than the rest of the computer and a bit overkill for it, that I think is still quite okay.
What is your budget?
I'm kinda okay with spending 600-700 USD or something along those lines, perhaps more or less depending on what's worth it.
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920*1080
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Starcraft 2, CS:GO and other non-hardcore games... preferably very stable at medium settings, even at high load moments.
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Listening to music, matlab, watching TV series and what not.. streams and forums of course
Do you intend to overclock?
I'm kinda indifferent to it. I'm no hardcore OC dude, but if it can be done without water cooling and custom chassi modding, I guess, why not?
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
Not that I'm aware of.
Do you need an operating system?
No. Or actually yes, but I already have them.
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Nope. I have an external audio card, HIDs and so on..
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
Last time, I preferred intel/nvidia but I don't know.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Sweden. Or any place close to Sweden at least.
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
Nope. Except I'm not a big fan of shady small shops.
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I have a 560TI that ran into the MSI "one fan broke" problem. I'm just out of warranty but sent the RMA request in anyway just in case, but chances are that they'll deny my request. Rather than buying a new aftermarket fan/heatsink I think I'd rather just buy a new graphics card, which is why I'm here.
My monitor's native resolution is 1920X1080, buying in the US. I want to spend $300 or less but that's a "soft cap", I'd be willing to spend a tiny bit more if it's worth it. As for retailers, I'm down to buy online but there's also a microcenter nearby. As for brand preferences I liked my experience with Nvidia so I'm leaning towards another Nvidia card but if there's a better deal for an AMD card I'm not opposed to buying one either.
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Lol I had that exact same thing happen to me except with a GTX 460.
As for a new card, I guess you would be looking for a GTX 760.
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On June 26 2014 08:43 DystopiaX wrote:
I have a 560TI that ran into the MSI "one fan broke" problem. I'm just out of warranty but sent the RMA request in anyway just in case, but chances are that they'll deny my request. Rather than buying a new aftermarket fan/heatsink I think I'd rather just buy a new graphics card, which is why I'm here.
My monitor's native resolution is 1920X1080, buying in the US. I want to spend $300 or less but that's a "soft cap", I'd be willing to spend a tiny bit more if it's worth it. As for retailers, I'm down to buy online but there's also a microcenter nearby. As for brand preferences I liked my experience with Nvidia so I'm leaning towards another Nvidia card but if there's a better deal for an AMD card I'm not opposed to buying one either.
What games do you play, what's your other hardware (CPU mainly) and what FPS + graphical settings targets do you want?
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On June 26 2014 09:07 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 08:43 DystopiaX wrote:
I have a 560TI that ran into the MSI "one fan broke" problem. I'm just out of warranty but sent the RMA request in anyway just in case, but chances are that they'll deny my request. Rather than buying a new aftermarket fan/heatsink I think I'd rather just buy a new graphics card, which is why I'm here.
My monitor's native resolution is 1920X1080, buying in the US. I want to spend $300 or less but that's a "soft cap", I'd be willing to spend a tiny bit more if it's worth it. As for retailers, I'm down to buy online but there's also a microcenter nearby. As for brand preferences I liked my experience with Nvidia so I'm leaning towards another Nvidia card but if there's a better deal for an AMD card I'm not opposed to buying one either. What games do you play, what's your other hardware (CPU mainly) and what FPS + graphical settings targets do you want?
Everything really, LoL/SC2/Heroes of the Storm then singleplayer stuff like Watch dogs etc., sandy bridge i5-2400. As for graphical settings, the best that I can get for the price point I mentioned really.
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I'm thinking of buying a Roswell Capstone 450 and a Sapphire R9 270 Vapor-X, will those two work properly together? Just a quick precaution.
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On June 26 2014 09:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a Roswell Capstone 450 and a Sapphire R9 270 Vapor-X, will those two work properly together? Just a quick precaution.
Yes.
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On June 26 2014 06:20 neptunusfisk wrote:+ Show Spoiler +My old computer (~2007) is slowly falling apart. No hurry or anything, but I'm looking to replace it and know nothing about computer parts these days, so any input would be appreciated. I have an external sound card and a PSU that's far newer than the rest of the computer and a bit overkill for it, that I think is still quite okay. What is your budget?I'm kinda okay with spending 600-700 USD or something along those lines, perhaps more or less depending on what's worth it. What is your monitor's native resolution?1920*1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?Starcraft 2, CS:GO and other non-hardcore games... preferably very stable at medium settings, even at high load moments. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?Listening to music, matlab, watching TV series and what not.. streams and forums of course Do you intend to overclock?I'm kinda indifferent to it. I'm no hardcore OC dude, but if it can be done without water cooling and custom chassi modding, I guess, why not? Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?Not that I'm aware of. Do you need an operating system?No. Or actually yes, but I already have them. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?Nope. I have an external audio card, HIDs and so on.. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.Last time, I preferred intel/nvidia but I don't know. What country will you be buying your parts in?Sweden. Or any place close to Sweden at least. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.Nope. Except I'm not a big fan of shady small shops.
So what are you even looking to replace? CPU, motherboard, RAM, graphics card?
Maybe you should also get an SSD. The difference between a 2007 processor and a current one is fairly large; overclocking would increase that lead somewhat but would take extra time and money (but not any case modding, custom water cooling loops, or anything that involved), so maybe you should just forget about it.
Intel Core i5-4590 - 1700 kr
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5310078/intel-core-i5-4590-3-3-ghz-6mb
Gigabyte B85M-D3SH - 550 kr
http://www.inet.se/produkt/1903022/gigabyte-b85m-ds3h-matx
XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB - 1050 kr
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5411199/xfx-radeon-r7-260x-2gb-1075mhz-ghost-2-0-2st-spel-varde-899kr
Corsair 2 x 4GB 1600 MHz DDR3 - 700 kr
http://www.inet.se/produkt/5315098/corsair-8gb-2x4gb-cl9-1600mhz-vengeance
That's about 600 USD. If you need a new case, optical drive, or anything on that level, that could be added. Actually, how many drives do you have, and are they all SATA? If some aren't SATA (so are IDE / PATA, use the big ribbon cable), they're not going to be compatible with a new motherboard.
The graphics card is overkill for the purposes, but I don't think there's much sense in going lower.
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On June 26 2014 10:09 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2014 09:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I'm thinking of buying a Roswell Capstone 450 and a Sapphire R9 270 Vapor-X, will those two work properly together? Just a quick precaution. Yes.
Thanks. Was just having a quick irrational panic attack since it said it needed 500 watts and the capstone on the box said 450 w
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Graphics cards usually list waaaay more than they really need, mostly as a CYA for the low-end, poorly made PSUs + a generous margin of error.
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If you keep playing newer AAA titles at higher settings, buying new graphics cards regularly is unavoidable.
It depends on the game and usage, but roughly 770 is 20% faster than 760. As as you'd expect from how price/performance goes in the price range, is that worth being 35% more expensive? Also, for what it's worth, if you like high-res textures, AA, etc. it could be that you can't really think of the 770 as much of a long-term investment, what with the 2 GB of VRAM at the price point you quote.
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