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No, that does nothing bad.
It's just that you should theoretically be thinking about how the air flows through your case so that every important part has air moving over it, no spots with hot air getting backed up somewhere. You should also have it arranged so that fans don't push against each other.
Easiest to think about what might happen is intake fans in the front and bottom (next to the PSU), exhaust fans at the rear and maybe top rear. Air will enter the case at the front and at the bottom, then move through the whole case and leave through the rear fan.
I have no idea what fans on the side panels do. That's too hard to imagine for me. 
I've seen two exhaust fans and nothing else, both at the rear-top corner of the case, one horizontal and one vertical. I don't know how good that works.
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Yea I guess I'll just have to take off the front panel and see if there is anything i can do to minimize the vibrations since the intake in the front does drop everything a few °C
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You know what... the case came with the fan already mounted in that position, right? Did you ever look at that? It might simply be fixed if you tighten the screws. They might be a bit loose.
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Or possibly loosen the screws a bit, since it could be flexed due to being overtightened.
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Do you know of any good case that is both µATX or mITX and designed with silence in mind? (the OP doesn't list any)
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Ok, I've found some parts that look ok, is there anything missing/not compatible/just plain bad in here?
CPU - i5-3470 3.20 GHz
GFX - MSI NVIDIA GTX 750Ti
MOBO - ASRock H97 Pro4 LGA 1150 Intel H97
RAM - G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB)
PSU - Corsair Builder Series 430CX
CASE - NZXT Source 210 Elite Black
SSD - Samsung 840 EVO 500GB
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Core i5 3470 only works with 7 series boards. You want a Core i5 4 series for 9 series boards (eg. Core i5 4690).
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB is a bit overkill when the rest of the system is not that great?
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On June 28 2014 13:17 Ropid wrote:
You know what... the case came with the fan already mounted in that position, right? Did you ever look at that? It might simply be fixed if you tighten the screws. They might be a bit loose.
Yea it came mounted in place. I'll give that a shot now see if it helps and let ya know in a bit. If they seem too tight ill also try loosening them a little bit.
EDIT: Okay so what I did is I made sure the fan was tightened as much as possible without stripping the screws. I also moved my hard drives from the first slot to the second and the third slot to the fourth ( I only have two hard drives ) since they sit directly below the fan. I also put screws in the hard drives and my CD/DVD drive even though the case has screwless slots because there was a tiny bit of wiggle room on all of them. I don't know how much the fan alone could cause them to move but I guess all you need is a tiny movement against a metal cage to make an annoying vibration sound. So far though so good (only had comp on for like 5 mins tho) if there is no noise in the next hour or so I'll put a second edit in here confirming it worked.
EDIT 2: So far so good so hopefully it stays like this.
Thanks for all the help everyone
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On June 29 2014 04:08 skyR wrote:
Core i5 3470 only works with 7 series boards. You want a Core i5 4 series for 9 series boards (eg. Core i5 4690).
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB is a bit overkill when the rest of the system is not that great?
thanks! i was looking at 4 series cpus so chose a 9 series mobo and forgot to swap back
i already have the ssd, it's currently in my laptop
edit: ASRock B75 PRO3-M LGA 1155 Intel B75
i assume this would work instead if i went for the i5 3470?
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On June 29 2014 05:07 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 04:08 skyR wrote:
Core i5 3470 only works with 7 series boards. You want a Core i5 4 series for 9 series boards (eg. Core i5 4690).
Samsung 840 EVO 500GB is a bit overkill when the rest of the system is not that great? thanks! i was looking at 4 series cpus so chose a 9 series mobo and forgot to swap back i already have the ssd, it's currently in my laptop edit: ASRock B75 PRO3-M LGA 1155 Intel B75 i assume this would work instead if i went for the i5 3470?
Why would you go with an i5 3470? 3.4ghz ivy bridge won't run stuff like 4.6ghz Haswell would (pentium g3258 could run wildstar 50% faster, potentially)
If you really want four cores then you can go g3258 to 4690k, but i wouldn't run anything else
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On June 29 2014 06:43 Targe wrote:ive actually just changed following lots of advice from kupon3ss to http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/TCQ4Bmive been made to realise that 3470 was a bad build  thanks cyro!
You need two RAM modules, 2x4gb for example.
You need a 9-series board for Haswell refresh, or a 4670-etc to use 8-series.
You don't want to OC?
Don't use an AMD GPU for Wildstar. If they (probably AMD driver team) resolve nvidia having a massive FPS lead in CPU bound situations, it might take them a long time.
I wrote this before:
rough price up~ £165 i5 £100 mobo £60 2x4gb RAM £33 cooler £37 for 1tb hdd £53 for 120/128GB ssd, either mx100 or 840 evo £110 for a 750ti, £176 for 760 £37 or so for PSU ^£661 build for 4690k+overclock+gtx760 with 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD etc. That's before variable prices like case and windows license, which can either be a nonfactor for cost or a significant addition (if you want to buy a full price windows license and an expensive case) Can cut money on storage, GPU to 750ti, removing CPU OC potential http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1130?vs=1038the 750ti has slightly more OC headroom, but it's small on both GPU's in terms of what performance you can actually end up with, so it's mostly what you see is what you get with them. Maybe +5% on a 760 and +10% on a 750ti.
you want cheaper? Looking back you could take the SSD money off since you have an SSD, that would be £608 before case w/ 760. That's the kind of build i would sell to a friend with limited tech knowledge who wanted high performance for those types of games
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Hey guys, what's the best shop in Australia? I have a friend who wants to build a PC, but he's not really sure what the best place is, and given that I'm from the states, I don't know 
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PCCaseGear and MSY are what most people use, seemingly.
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Just wondering what might be bottle necking me in games I figured my 660 could handle alot but I wasnt sure if it is or if my cpu is holding it back.
What is your current build?
GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-Bit
i5-3570K (overclocked to 4.0 on air)
ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model
my power supply is 800watts
120g ssd
500g harddrive
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I would really like to find out what my biggest bottle neck is. I play alot of wow in a 25man raid I would like to be able to play with medium settings and keep at least 60fps
What is your budget?
about $300
What country will you be buying your parts in?
United States
If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
Newegg but open to suggestions
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On June 29 2014 14:20 drivec wrote:
Just wondering what might be bottle necking me in games I figured my 660 could handle alot but I wasnt sure if it is or if my cpu is holding it back.
What is your current build?
GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-Bit
i5-3570K (overclocked to 4.0 on air)
ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model
my power supply is 800watts
120g ssd
500g harddrive
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I would really like to find out what my biggest bottle neck is. I play alot of wow in a 25man raid I would like to be able to play with medium settings and keep at least 60fps
What is your budget?
about $300
What country will you be buying your parts in?
United States
If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
Newegg but open to suggestions
You will be CPU limited and you won't really be able to fix that, you could OC CPU more though. 4ghz is very low
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thankyou I appreciated the quick response.
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Yeah, the entire live stream was awesome (Saw it all live). To bad it was a little bit short.
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On June 29 2014 08:32 Cyro wrote:You need two RAM modules, 2x4gb for example. You need a 9-series board for Haswell refresh, or a 4670-etc to use 8-series. You don't want to OC? Don't use an AMD GPU for Wildstar. If they (probably AMD driver team) resolve nvidia having a massive FPS lead in CPU bound situations, it might take them a long time. I wrote this before: Show nested quote +rough price up~ £165 i5 £100 mobo £60 2x4gb RAM £33 cooler £37 for 1tb hdd £53 for 120/128GB ssd, either mx100 or 840 evo £110 for a 750ti, £176 for 760 £37 or so for PSU ^£661 build for 4690k+overclock+gtx760 with 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD etc. That's before variable prices like case and windows license, which can either be a nonfactor for cost or a significant addition (if you want to buy a full price windows license and an expensive case) Can cut money on storage, GPU to 750ti, removing CPU OC potential http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1130?vs=1038the 750ti has slightly more OC headroom, but it's small on both GPU's in terms of what performance you can actually end up with, so it's mostly what you see is what you get with them. Maybe +5% on a 760 and +10% on a 750ti. you want cheaper? Looking back you could take the SSD money off since you have an SSD, that would be £608 before case w/ 760. That's the kind of build i would sell to a friend with limited tech knowledge who wanted high performance for those types of games
problem is im not gonna be able to get the extra money for a build like that for an unknown amount of time, ram isnt an issue to swap between 1x8 and 2x4, (im happy to choose either)
You need a 9-series board for Haswell refresh, or a 4670-etc to use 8-series.
can you elaborate on this, i dont quite get the phrasing
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