EPT^That's a shot from shadowplay, not sure what quality setting on there (it's a still from 15mbit video) but it uses ~8-56mbits (1-7MB/second, 600MB - 4.1GB per 10 minutes) depending on the scene and quality setting for 1080p60 mp4 output, usually a ton for FPS games and nowhere near as much for sc2/LoL/osu etc (no first person cam which is really hard on encoders)
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
^That's a shot from shadowplay, not sure what quality setting on there (it's a still from 15mbit video) but it uses ~8-56mbits (1-7MB/second, 600MB - 4.1GB per 10 minutes) depending on the scene and quality setting for 1080p60 mp4 output, usually a ton for FPS games and nowhere near as much for sc2/LoL/osu etc (no first person cam which is really hard on encoders) | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
By the way I think someone recently had a problem with their GPU not working properly. Everything would work fine, the fans would spin, except that plugging in the monitor the GPU resulted in nothing (so that person used integrated graphics, which worked fine). Well, I was cleaning out my computer and I just had this exact problem upon reassembling it. After opening up the case again, I found that one of the wires on a molex connector had been take out of its casing, so there was no connection to the GPU. After shoving the wire back in, everything worked perfectly fine again. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Molex_male_connector.jpg ^That's a molex connector. Thought this little story might help whoever might have had this problem, if I recall correctly that person didn't say he had resolved it. IMKR I think? | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
I do have a microcenter and frys nearby so if there are any good store deals that would be the best. Do the retailers allow for refund if you return quickly? EDIT: actually what would be a best value graphics card I could get now considering ill upgrade my other parts later? The most demanding game I would be playing is probably csgo at max settings. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Why would it be different to encode a FP camera compared to a third person eagle-eye camera? I find that strange. Is it about viewing angle or something? Modern encoders are very efficient at dealing with slow moving objects, but on a first person cam if you turn to one side for example then the entire scene is suddenly vastly different | ||
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LeperKahn
Romania1848 Posts
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S3ph
Germany76 Posts
Never had any problems. | ||
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coolguy7676
United States12 Posts
What is your budget? Around $1000 (I do have some leeway but not a huge amount). What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Most next gen games (Assassin's Creed 4, Arkham Origins, etc.), on high settings preferably. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Internet, Skype, etc. (Nothing very taxing). Do you intend to overclock? No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No, No. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Newegg. Tentative Build Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($55) HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive ($65) GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-2GD GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready WindForce 3X 450W Video Card ($340) Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM ($22) RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL ($75) Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($105) CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ($190) SSD: SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ($100) PSU: CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($80) Total: $1042 | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20327 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:31 coolguy7676 wrote: How many watts should my PSU power then? Also, wouldn't a haswell cpu and motherboard cost more than its ivy bridge equivalent? Thanks for the response, i've posted this in the build resource thread and i'll stop responding here. With a stock i5 and a 770 your full-system power draw from the PSU while gaming would probably be in like the mid 200-watt range, below 300w. Typically, highest power loads you can expect are maxed GPU (like 180w at high clocks gaming) and then like 60 on the i5 if you're playing a game that will highly load 4 cores.. so you'd be pushed over 250w with other system power etc; really don't need that much power for a lot of components these days. With a good quality ~430-450w unit you are laughing, np 4670+h81/whatever shouldn't cost significantly more than ivy bridge i5 +$105 h77. It's clocked ~5% higher and brings somewhat significant performance improvements at the same clock speed, so you can expect it to perform like ~10-20% better (14% higher IPC for one task + 5% frequency = 1.2x performance) depending on the task, it's worth a touch extra anyway if it comes down to paying more | ||
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coolguy7676
United States12 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:37 Cyro wrote: Above was posted here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440093 With a stock i5 and a 770 your full-system power draw from the PSU while gaming would probably be in like the mid 200-watt range, below 300w. Typically, highest power loads you can expect are maxed GPU (like 180w at high clocks gaming) and then like 60 on the i5 if you're playing a game that will highly load 4 cores.. so you'd be pushed over 250w with other system power etc; really don't need that much power for a lot of components these days. With a good quality ~430-450w unit you are laughing, np 4670+h81/whatever shouldn't cost significantly more than ivy bridge i5 +$105 h77. It's clocked ~5% higher and brings somewhat significant performance improvements at the same clock speed, so you can expect it to perform like ~10-20% better (14% higher IPC for one task + 5% frequency = 1.2x performance) depending on the task, it's worth a touch extra anyway if it comes down to paying more OK you've convinced me. Two quick questions then. Would this PSU work (Rosewill CAPSTONE-450-M 450W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire Ready, Modular Active PFC Power Supply), and what motherboard would you recommend with a i5 4670? Does the 4670 have a performance increase noticeable enough to warrant the extra $20 when compared to a 4570? | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:49 coolguy7676 wrote: OK you've convinced me. Two quick questions then. Would this PSU work (Rosewill CAPSTONE-450-M 450W Continuous @ 50°C, Intel Haswell Ready, 80 PLUS GOLD, ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92, SLI/CrossFire Ready, Modular Active PFC Power Supply), and what motherboard would you recommend with a i5 4670? Does the 4670 have a performance increase noticeable enough to warrant the extra $20 when compared to a 4570? That PSU will likely get the Cyro seal of approval, it's well reviewed and has high efficiency (and sometimes goes on sale). Btw, if you're willing to wait a couple weeks (and hunt for deals/rebates), you can probably get a 770 in the sub-$300 range. Newegg / Tigerdirect (or Frys / MicroCenter) sometimes mark them down. I had several slickdeals alerts set up for GPUs while I was in the market for one. The price for the GPU shouldn't really go up from $340, so there is not much risk of spending more, but waiting for the price to come down can be irritating... | ||
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nonsequitur
384 Posts
$950 usd. What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Battlefield 4 at Ultra with 60fps minimum. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Not much else. Do you intend to overclock? Yes Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? Would like for this to be an option in the future Do you need an operating system? No Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. I do not need a graphics card What country will you be buying your parts in? Singapore, but it's fine to use US prices. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. No. I could link the price list of my retailer here, but I doubt anyone wants to sift through a badly scanned pdf. Tentative build: CPU: i5-4670K Mobo: Gigabyte z87x-d3h (is there a better alternative? Also, is the z87x-ud3h worth the extra $30+ if all I'm really looking to do is gaming? SSD: Samsung Evo 250 gb PSU: Seasonic M12II-Modular 750W CPU Cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 X Total price: ~$940 usd. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On January 06 2014 01:26 coolguy7676 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Does this look like a good build for a relatively high performance gaming computer? I just want to know if there are any compatibility issues, if the power supply is large enough, and if there is a better component i can substitute in (while keeping the price at around $1000). Thanks. What is your budget? Around $1000 (I do have some leeway but not a huge amount). What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Most next gen games (Assassin's Creed 4, Arkham Origins, etc.), on high settings preferably. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Internet, Skype, etc. (Nothing very taxing). Do you intend to overclock? No. Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No. Do you need an operating system? No. Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No, No. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Newegg. Tentative Build Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($55) HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive ($65) GPU: GIGABYTE GV-N770OC-2GD GeForce GTX 770 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready WindForce 3X 450W Video Card ($340) Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM ($22) RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL ($75) Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-H77-DS3H LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($105) CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 Ivy Bridge 3.2GHz (3.6GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ($190) SSD: SAMSUNG 840 EVO MZ-7TE120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) ($100) PSU: CORSAIR CXM series CX600M 600W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply ($80) Total: $1042 Power supply was already covered. Antec 300 was a good option in say 2008. The case market has caught up and surpassed it since then. (For something like this, searching newegg for high and especially large review counts finds you some of the oldest products...) It's just a box though, so if you don't mind dealing without modern building conveniences it's a fine pick still. At current prices, currently available at newegg... NZXT Tempest 410? That's also a lot to spend on a motherboard when you're not overclocking. Also a whole lot to spend on last-gen parts. Do you really need all those ports and features or even the ATX form factor? I mean, equivalent i5-4570 is $190 as well... Compare with say $70 AsRock B75 Pro4, which may itself have more than you need. Considering that 1600 MHz (or higher, but higher won't help on non-Z87) RAM of the same capacity and configuration is available for $70, I'm not sure what drew you to that set. On January 06 2014 02:35 nonsequitur wrote: + Show Spoiler + What is your budget? $900 usd. I intend to go for the i5-4670k and need a recommendation for a standard size (ATX?) motherboard that allows overclocking. Basically my budget is for a i5-4670k + motherboard + modular psu + 840 evo 250gb + case (Fractal Design R4?) What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920x1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? Battlefield 4 at Ultra with 60fps minimum. What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Not much else. Do you intend to overclock? Yes Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? Would like for this to be an option in the future Do you need an operating system? No Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? No. If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. I do not need a graphics card What country will you be buying your parts in? Singapore, but it's fine to use US prices. If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. I've heard good things about Gigabyte's motherboards. I'm not going to name more specific parts without knowing what's available and at what prices because that's a waste of your time and mine, especially when it comes to cases and power supplies. Motherboards to a lesser extent, and the same for SSDs (usually 840 EVO should be priced fine, so that's okay). Memory is mostly a commodity product. For CPUs in most countries it's the same, but you already know what you want there. | ||
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
Gigabyte is not a store. Since you were unwilling to make this effort, I have done it for you :p Looks like GooGoo Custom Computers is in an option: http://googoo.com.sg/shopitem.asp?id=2 Let us know if this is what you where you want to shop at, or somewhere else. | ||
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Pokemonxoxo
United States217 Posts
My specs are as follows: Mobo: Asus M5A97 AMD 970 CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 965 GPU: GTX 550Ti memory: 2x4gb ram harddrive: 500gb western digital blue psu: cooler master elite series 460W. <---- need to replace this my budget is like $150. | ||
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coolguy7676
United States12 Posts
On January 06 2014 05:23 Myrmidon wrote: Power supply was already covered. Antec 300 was a good option in say 2008. The case market has caught up and surpassed it since then. (For something like this, searching newegg for high and especially large review counts finds you some of the oldest products...) It's just a box though, so if you don't mind dealing without modern building conveniences it's a fine pick still. At current prices, currently available at newegg... NZXT Tempest 410? That's also a lot to spend on a motherboard when you're not overclocking. Also a whole lot to spend on last-gen parts. Do you really need all those ports and features or even the ATX form factor? I mean, equivalent i5-4570 is $190 as well... Compare with say $70 AsRock B75 Pro4, which may itself have more than you need. Considering that 1600 MHz (or higher, but higher won't help on non-Z87) RAM of the same capacity and configuration is available for $70, I'm not sure what drew you to that set. Hey thanks for the help. I've made a few changes to my build. Are there any other changes I could make to lower the price without taking a noticeable hit on performance? New Components PSU: Corsair CX Series CX500M 500 Watt ATX Modular Power Supply ($60) Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-B85M-D3H LGA 1150 Intel B85 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard ($80) CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670 ($220) RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory Model BLS8G3D1609ES2LX0 ($75) Case: NZXT Crafted Series Tempest 410 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case ($60) | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
And you can of course get a less expensive motherboard and case. | ||
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coolguy7676
United States12 Posts
On January 06 2014 10:24 skyR wrote: Rosewill Capstone 450 is significantly better than CX500M for the same price. And you can of course get a less expensive motherboard and case. I think I'm fine with my case, but could you point me towards a cheaper motherboard? Most of the miniATX mobos I'm seeing on NewEgg are all 75 or 80 dollars. | ||
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micksr
31 Posts
Anyway here's the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440109. I post here because I thought it kind of related to building my computer, and maybe I can get some advice before I decided to return it. Thanks | ||
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
On January 06 2014 10:52 coolguy7676 wrote: I think I'm fine with my case, but could you point me towards a cheaper motherboard? Most of the miniATX mobos I'm seeing on NewEgg are all 75 or 80 dollars. ASRock H81M-HDS, I'm not 100% sure but if the Tempest 410 doesn't have USB3.0 on the front then get the H81M-DGS or the MSI H81M-P33/E33. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
On January 06 2014 10:54 micksr wrote: Hey guys I just built a computer that I built from here. Having some issues, and needing to know if I need to return this graphics card, also wondering if my psu is powerful enough. Anyway here's the thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440109. I post here because I thought it kind of related to building my computer, and maybe I can get some advice before I decided to return it. Thanks It seems to me that your GPU is overclocked and not stable because it's very similar to what happens to me. Do you ever get the BSOD when it requires a hard reset? If so, what's the error? | ||
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