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On January 03 2014 09:21 ZeromuS wrote:
Yeah I am running 1.4 on VCORE. Anything less and my computer locks up and crashes and causes all sorts of errors at anything more than 4.2GHz
I set 1.4 in the bios, and I tried 1.35 1.36 etc and 1.39 works up until heavy load on my CPU and then it causes errors.
I have stress tested and I got at its worst 64 celsius but when I play games and other things I am around 55 celsius.
Good to know the PSU is probably fine which is great. But I am curious as to why I appear to be needing such a high VCore.
I am not sure how I am supposed to OC my CPU if I can't really do so at less than 1.4v without errors :/
I mean when I started OCing I looked at tons of guides and started slow and checked temps every time. And I am having zero temp issues.
Running OCCT I maxed out at 75 celsius and bumped it down to 1.395. 1.39 leads to instabality and blue screens :/ as well as things like chrome just crashing for some reason.
Boy...and I thought my 4.5GHz @ 1.355V was bad. Have you tried IntelBurnTest or Prime95? They skyrocketed my temps to 90 when I was OC'ing at 1.355V.
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Yeah I am running 1.4 on VCORE. Anything less and my computer locks up and crashes and causes all sorts of errors at anything more than 4.2GHz
I set 1.4 in the bios, and I tried 1.35 1.36 etc and 1.39 works up until heavy load on my CPU and then it causes errors.
I have stress tested and I got at its worst 64 celsius but when I play games and other things I am around 55 celsius.
Those temps are wrong, you have some issue with OC, that's why i said check benchmark scores
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On January 03 2014 09:33 .Mystic wrote:Hey, thanks for the help incognoto and Myrmidon. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/This is what I created based off both your builds. I opted to go with i5 and decided to keep it under $1000 excluding taxes. The small jump in price is worth the performance is how i explained to him. He wanted to use this comp for few years so 760 seems to be a good choice for future games even though it may be overkill like you said. I believe the PSU is strong enough for this setup, but would like to double check. If I missed anything, let me know. I'll prbly stick to ME and NCIX like Myrmidon's build to save on shipping costs. I don't trust partpicker website to have the lowest prices from the web lol.
That link doesn't show anything for anyone else, it runs on a browser cookie or something else local machine, you need to use the permalink
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On January 03 2014 11:02 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +Yeah I am running 1.4 on VCORE. Anything less and my computer locks up and crashes and causes all sorts of errors at anything more than 4.2GHz
I set 1.4 in the bios, and I tried 1.35 1.36 etc and 1.39 works up until heavy load on my CPU and then it causes errors.
I have stress tested and I got at its worst 64 celsius but when I play games and other things I am around 55 celsius. Those temps are wrong, you have some issue with OC, that's why i said check benchmark scores
I reinstalled the bios and reset my OCs. I can run 4.2 at 1.25v maybe something is goofy with my mobo and once i go up to 4.4 I need to run much higher voltages?
1.25 is stock voltage on my CPU on this mobo. That seems better no? Any idea why I can't hit 4.4 with 1.25 or 1.3? Just curious.
Everything is set to auto except my core clock and my Turbo boost which I set to 42.
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^Well, what mobo and llc setting is it?
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llc is 1.81something
and its a Gigabyte Z77-HD3
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z77-hd4 is listed as 4+1 phase on sin vrm list, z77-hd3 isn't listed. It's probably not capable of more than like ~1.2-1.3v
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On January 03 2014 11:03 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2014 09:33 .Mystic wrote:Hey, thanks for the help incognoto and Myrmidon. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/This is what I created based off both your builds. I opted to go with i5 and decided to keep it under $1000 excluding taxes. The small jump in price is worth the performance is how i explained to him. He wanted to use this comp for few years so 760 seems to be a good choice for future games even though it may be overkill like you said. I believe the PSU is strong enough for this setup, but would like to double check. If I missed anything, let me know. I'll prbly stick to ME and NCIX like Myrmidon's build to save on shipping costs. I don't trust partpicker website to have the lowest prices from the web lol. That link doesn't show anything for anyone else, it runs on a browser cookie or something else local machine, you need to use the permalink
Sorry, permalink is here
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2uzQJ
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On January 03 2014 13:42 .Mystic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2014 11:03 Cyro wrote:On January 03 2014 09:33 .Mystic wrote:Hey, thanks for the help incognoto and Myrmidon. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/This is what I created based off both your builds. I opted to go with i5 and decided to keep it under $1000 excluding taxes. The small jump in price is worth the performance is how i explained to him. He wanted to use this comp for few years so 760 seems to be a good choice for future games even though it may be overkill like you said. I believe the PSU is strong enough for this setup, but would like to double check. If I missed anything, let me know. I'll prbly stick to ME and NCIX like Myrmidon's build to save on shipping costs. I don't trust partpicker website to have the lowest prices from the web lol. That link doesn't show anything for anyone else, it runs on a browser cookie or something else local machine, you need to use the permalink Sorry, permalink is here http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/2uzQJ
get 2x4gb RAM, psu is fine if you use the rebate (better quality units available, but a good enough unit capable of supplying twice as much power as you are using is fair 'nuff at $40)
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On January 03 2014 13:39 Cyro wrote:
z77-hd4 is listed as 4+1 phase on sin vrm list, z77-hd3 isn't listed. It's probably not capable of more than like ~1.2-1.3v
Sorry it was the HD4, I mistyped it 
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So: You won't actually get bios voltage unless you use high-extreme llc, and it may not supply more than like 1.3v very well
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On January 03 2014 14:46 Cyro wrote:
So: You won't actually get bios voltage unless you use high-extreme llc, and it may not supply more than like 1.3v very well
how come it lets me change the vcore voltage then in the settings? I think I need a better breakdown of the bios :/ and no I can't change the LLC away from auto to extreme. That must be the bottleneck.
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Bios vcore on z77 is just a target voltage, especially without ~turbo llc and suitable amount of power phases etc; you can't really run ~1.4-1.45v on lower tier boards, that's what the z77x-ud3h etc is for
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Are there any difference between "Samsung 840 Evo" and Samsung 840 Evo Basic"?
I want to buy a 250GB version. I guess I can buy one, mainboard is a ASRock 870 Extreme3.
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Guys, I need your help. Atm Im torn between GTX 660 and AMD Radeon 7870. -.-
I know, its the matter of personal preference, but sill - what would you suggest?
Lots and lots of benchmarks have been read already. And Im still not even 1 cm further. 
I tend to value HD7870 over GTX 660.
#1 Pretty much same benchmarks;
#2 Most important - less power consumption (My PSU is not very strong --> Super Flower Golden Green PRO SF-450P14XE)
Second queston is: AMD had huge problems with shitty drivers. Have they learned from their mistakes and CCC 13.4 now OK?
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On January 04 2014 00:12 Dingodile wrote:
Are there any difference between "Samsung 840 Evo" and Samsung 840 Evo Basic"?
I want to buy a 250GB version. I guess I can buy one, mainboard is a ASRock 870 Extreme3.
No such thing as a Samsung 840 EVO Basic.
On January 04 2014 04:50 S3ph wrote:Guys, I need your help. Atm Im torn between GTX 660 and AMD Radeon 7870. -.- I know, its the matter of personal preference, but sill - what would you suggest?Lots and lots of benchmarks have been read already. And Im still not even 1 cm further. I tend to value HD7870 over GTX 660. #1 Pretty much same benchmarks; #2 Most important - less power consumption (My PSU is not very strong --> Super Flower Golden Green PRO SF- 450P14XE) Second queston is: AMD had huge problems with shitty drivers. Have they learned from their mistakes and CCC 13.4 now OK?
A Superflower Golden Green 450 is a really strong unit. More than enough for 7870 or GTX 660 unless you're running two CPUs or another similar GPU already for some reason...
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Indeed it is (i was going to buy one for 4770k+770)
for GPU, i would take 660 just because shadowplay, it's somewhat amazing to be able to keep it open invisibly and be able to manually record somewhat near-lossless 1080p60 with very little performance hit (slight hit if GPU bound, like single digit % on one GPU but no weird performance stuff or messed up frametimes etc) and no real HDD footprint (like 10GB an hour)
In the end; i just record pretty much everything, tab out and rename a file if it has something that i want, and end of the day if you play for 3 hours and discard 80% of the footage, it's like 20GB on the hdd, pretty negligable, so you can just play for a month and do that every day then come back and edit it
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On January 04 2014 05:23 skyR wrote:
A Superflower Golden Green 450 is a really strong unit. More than enough for 7870 or GTX 660 unless you're running two CPUs or another similar GPU already for some reason...
On January 04 2014 05:51 Cyro wrote:
Indeed it is (i was going to buy one for 4770k+770)
for GPU, i would take 660 just because shadowplay, it's somewhat amazing to be able to keep it open invisibly and be able to manually record somewhat near-lossless 1080p60 with very little performance hit (slight hit if GPU bound, like single digit % on one GPU but no weird performance stuff or messed up frametimes etc) and no real HDD footprint (like 10GB an hour)
In the end; i just record pretty much everything, tab out and rename a file if it has something that i want, and end of the day if you play for 3 hours and discard 80% of the footage, it's like 20GB on the hdd, pretty negligable, so you can just play for a month and do that every day then come back and edit it
Thank you, guys. Never thought I have a good taste in PSUs. :D
One last question. Now its 100% personal preference.
Asus or Gigabyte? --> Links to mindfactory.de
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Gigabyte? Seems like a huge price gap to me..?
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On January 04 2014 06:41 skyR wrote:
Gigabyte? Seems like a huge price gap to me..?
27,81€ is not a big deal. What my concern is, that there are plenty of RMAs of the Gigabyte card.
Thank you, skyR, for your great help. *handshake*.
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