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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On September 19 2012 17:41 ljd1131 wrote: So i got the Leopold fc700r, but the keys are a bit too small are there any other keyboards that are the same but with slightly bigger keys Mechanical keyboard keys are virtually all standardised. There might be some keycaps that don't taper up to the top as much, but none jump to mind. | ||
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ljd1131
Australia83 Posts
On September 19 2012 18:01 Blaec wrote: Mechanical keyboard keys are virtually all standardised. There might be some keycaps that don't taper up to the top as much, but none jump to mind. The problem i have with it is the keys are so easy to press if i just touch the keys a little it types them and the keys are small so i keep doing it  | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 19 2012 19:10 ljd1131 wrote: The problem i have with it is the keys are so easy to press if i just touch the keys a little it types them and the keys are small so i keep doing it Just get stiffer switches. Look into Cherry MX Blacks, if those aren't stiff enough, look into getting buckling spring keyboard, like a model m. | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
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-RusH
United States240 Posts
On September 20 2012 06:24 Sovano wrote: My CM Storm Quick Fire Pro in browns came in today. I can honestly say I F***ING LOVE BROWNS. Blues are great but browns just feel really nice overall. I'm so glad I bought it. Have you used it for a session of starcraft yet? I bought a Rosewill with brown switches yesterday. I ended up choosing it over their red switch version. | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On September 20 2012 06:40 -RusH wrote: Have you used it for a session of starcraft yet? I bought a Rosewill with brown switches yesterday. I ended up choosing it over their red switch version. Nope I haven't but honestly any switch is fine. I played on my laptop's scissor switches for a whole month before this baby arrived. Used membranes for gaming and that's fine. Blues are more than fine. Although I'll give it a go for one 1v1 match and edit this after that. I have a bunch of work that I still have to do. I'll also post again once my O-Rings come in later today and give that a go as well. Edit: As I said any switch type is fine. Although for my personal purposes the sound level was just perfect to play even when spamming my apm. The only slight problem I had was the reach between my number row to the F keys but that's just based on the keyboard you have and how they designed it. I just got my O-Rings during my match from my roommate, so I'm going to install those boys in and see how it goes. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 19 2012 19:10 ljd1131 wrote: The problem i have with it is the keys are so easy to press if i just touch the keys a little it types them and the keys are small so i keep doing it Hmm how can that be? Even if I rest my fingers on the pinky Topre keys they don't get activated(and they are 30g)... Maybe you just need to be a bit more careful. You could go with blacks but my wrist got so fucked up by them I wouldn't recommend them. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 20 2012 07:16 Shikyo wrote: Hmm how can that be? Even if I rest my fingers on the pinky Topre keys they don't get activated(and they are 30g)... Maybe you just need to be a bit more careful. You could go with blacks but my wrist got so fucked up by them I wouldn't recommend them. you must have weak wrists... I've done long type sessions on Buckling springs, and they take even more force. Then again, I did play the piano for 8 years.... | ||
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-RusH
United States240 Posts
On September 20 2012 07:03 Sovano wrote: Nope I haven't but honestly any switch is fine. I played on my laptop's scissor switches for a whole month before this baby arrived. Used membranes for gaming and that's fine. Blues are more than fine. Although I'll give it a go for one 1v1 match and edit this after that. I have a bunch of work that I still have to do. I'll also post again once my O-Rings come in later today and give that a go as well. Edit: As I said any switch type is fine. Although for my personal purposes the sound level was just perfect to play even when spamming my apm. The only slight problem I had was the reach between my number row to the F keys but that's just based on the keyboard you have and how they designed it. I just got my O-Rings during my match from my roommate, so I'm going to install those boys in and see how it goes. Ah, yeah I was looking at the CM QFP too and noticed that. What do o-rings do and if I wanted some where can I get them? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On September 20 2012 07:36 -RusH wrote: Ah, yeah I was looking at the CM QFP too and noticed that. What do o-rings do and if I wanted some where can I get them? O-Rings are "o-rings" (go figure), that you place underneath your keycap around the stem. Basically this prevents or at least helps reduce you from bottom out on your keys. Bottoming out is when the key goes down all the way. Mostly everyone experiences this because of membrane keyboards. You use more force than necessary because you've been used to membranes your whole life and transfer that amount of pressure onto mechanical keyboards, hence the term bottoming out. O-Rings help with this and dampen the amount of sound that emits from the keyboard. I got 2mm O-Rings from WASDkeyboards. On September 20 2012 07:39 wei2coolman wrote: I believe you need 2mm orings (correct me if I'm wrong). They prevent bottoming out, and reduce noise levels on typing. I think depending on the switch, they might change the feel to the actuation point (but no the amount of force required) (not sure though) Well you don't "need" 2mm O-Rings or any for that matter. It's either personal preference or just as I stated earlier, to dampen the sounds. I seriously needed to get a quieter switch and keyboard so I'm really happy with the browns I'm typing on right now. It took me exactly one hour to put in all of my O-Rings. Those stabilizers (correct me if I'm using the wrong term) underneath some of the keys such as the spacebar and shift gave me quite a bit of trouble. However, now after installing all of the O-Rings (I used 2mm O-Rings), I can say there is an audible difference. Visually it doesn't seem like it does much when you compare one key that has O-Rings to one that doesn't, when you press the key down. Although that's the point of 2mm O-Rings, they are supposed to give you the goal of O-Rings while not alterting the feel too much. However, when I compared the feel between one with and without and O-Ring there was a bit of difference between them. You can tell that your keys are not bottoming out with the O-Rings, which is nice. I actually prefer the feel with O-Rings on than without. It sounds so much nicer too. You are correct that they change the actuation point as it is not hitting the bottom of the keycap near the stem but hits on the O-Rings instead. As for the amount of force it does not change since that is wholly dependent on how much pressure you usually exert on average on they keys. Which is most often then naught enough to bottom out the keys. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 20 2012 07:29 wei2coolman wrote: you must have weak wrists... I've done long type sessions on Buckling springs, and they take even more force. Then again, I did play the piano for 8 years.... Buckling Springs are some of the easiest switches to type on for me. Force's not everything ... | ||
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tymt
Sweden293 Posts
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On September 20 2012 08:50 tymt wrote: O-rings does not change the actuation point oO Shit I was thinking about something else lol. You're right. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
On September 20 2012 10:10 wei2coolman wrote: Actuation point should always stay the same, the difference is some people say they feel a difference in the travel to the actuation point. yes travel to actuation is reduced. Actuation point does not change. Actuation feels sooner because you have to travel less distance to actuate. If that makes sense. | ||
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Sovano
United States1503 Posts
On September 20 2012 10:43 m1rk3 wrote: yes travel to actuation is reduced. Actuation point does not change. Actuation feels sooner because you have to travel less distance to actuate. If that makes sense. I believe this is what I was thinking about when I was posting about the part with acutation point. | ||
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Wartortle
Australia504 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
That said its a wootoff so it'll probably be sold out within a few minutes of me posting this. Edit: AAAAaaaand its gone. Sorry. | ||
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m1rk3
Canada412 Posts
On September 20 2012 11:16 Wartortle wrote: travel distance to actuation doesn't change, travel distant past actuation point to bottoming out changes. If you are a light typist you wont notice a difference, if you hammer your keyboard it will feel like the key stops slightly earlier. Oops, yeah this. O-rings stop the key switch from bottoming out. Since you're not bottoming out the switch, you may increase it's life expectancy with the noise dampening advantage. | ||
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