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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20331 Posts
January 02 2014 13:44 GMT
#8521
You might be able to use ~3GB of it then, but it's probably not worth doing with specs that were low tier like 7 years ago
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 04 2014 03:41 GMT
#8522
I'm using an Asus wireless AC router and a D-link wireless AC adapter but for some reason, my connection type shows at using 802.11n. Do I have to enable something on my devices to get an AC wireless connection?
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Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
January 04 2014 15:35 GMT
#8523
does streaming first-person shooter games require higher frame rates on stream to look good?
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20331 Posts
January 05 2014 00:47 GMT
#8524
Is subjective, but i'd prefer, yea
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Noev
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1105 Posts
January 05 2014 06:23 GMT
#8525
On January 04 2014 12:41 wptlzkwjd wrote:
I'm using an Asus wireless AC router and a D-link wireless AC adapter but for some reason, my connection type shows at using 802.11n. Do I have to enable something on my devices to get an AC wireless connection?


Depends on how close the router and the computer are what kind of signal it uses. If they are in the same room it should use the AC connection any further and it will use the n connection because it is dual band and will get better connection through walls while AC is single band on 5ghz. I have a similar set up in my home and the only time my connection ever shows as AC is when i'm in the room with the router.

It shouldn't really matter unless you have 1Gbps or more connection anyways N should have enough throughput to handle the speed your connections is capable of. The only way AC would make a difference day to day right now (super connection availability notwithstanding) is if you're trying to transfer large files over wifi to another AC device on your network or a hard drive connected to the router and want the fastest direct connection possible with wifi.

I'm not an expert on this stuff so if i have said something incorrect please feel free to correct me.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 05 2014 06:30 GMT
#8526
I don't have ac but the above sounds correct based on what I know about the earlier standards and reading what the tech specs of ac are. Also the point about data rates is very valid. For most home connections to the outside n is already more than you need because the bottleneck isn't going to be your connection to your own router.

So yes, along those lines if you have it set to only the 2.4 GHz band then you're not going to get ac.

I guess if it falls back to communications modes existing in 802.11n then it'll report n and not ac. Sometimes n falls back to a or g modes (or even b).
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 05 2014 07:31 GMT
#8527
Huh, I didn't know that. Yeah my computer is a floor below the router in a different room.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 07 2014 13:52 GMT
#8528
This might not be as simple, but I'll ask here anyway.

I want to buy a new laptop. Primarily for everyday things (streaming, surfing etc.) but I want to have the ability to play games too. Like Dota 2, SCII, WoW or similar. I want to be able to play newer games as well on low-med settings without lag.

What things should I take note of when looking?
Is an i7 core necesary or can an i5 do?
I was thinking 8 gb ram, is 4 enough? (DDR3 or DDR5?)
What sort of graphics card? NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M good enough?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 07 2014 18:33 GMT
#8529
Look at display size, resolution, and quality. Overall build quality, keyboard, trackpad, etc. Battery life, weight, chassis size, temperatures, noise. Most of these things you'd need to check a decent review for and/or use in person, which often means the info is unavailable to you.

If by "streaming" you mean to your laptop and not from your laptop, Core i5 is fine. Current-gen parts are i5-4xxx, and if you want higher performance you want to avoid parts with a U or Y suffix.

4 GB of RAM is enough for how most people would use a laptop for those purposes, but if you're keeping a stream open for a long time (maybe on a second screen) while playing a game and keeping other programs up, 8 GB might be better. Many laptops, especially the models that aren't very thin, have upgradeable RAM so that is something you could install yourself later. Check to make sure if you get a model with 4 GB. The system RAM is always going to be DDR3. If you get dedicated graphics, the GDDR5 versions are a little better.

For playing those kinds of games, integrated graphics on a Core i5 (standard voltage, not U or Y suffix) is already enough for lower settings. GT 730M, GT 740M, GT 745M, GT 750M, GT 755M are all similar usually and would be better and enough.
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 07 2014 20:07 GMT
#8530
Thanks.

What I have the most problem understanding is screen and battery quality. What to look for?

I've been looking for something like this :Link
Would that be overkill?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20331 Posts
January 07 2014 20:16 GMT
#8531
It has an i5-4200U which is a dual-core part with a 15w power limit and a max of 2.3ghz with both cores loaded

i5-4200M is a dual core part, but maxes at 3ghz and has 37w power limit instead of 15, so you can expect it to be closer to 3ghz than the 1.6ghz base clock of the 4200u

i7-4700MQ is quad core, has 2.4ghz base, 3.2-3.4ghz max turbo and 47w power limit

You really don't want low power CPU in anything that you are paying significant money for, unless form factor is extremely important
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 21:51:36
January 07 2014 21:44 GMT
#8532
i5-4200U has U suffix, as mentioned earlier, hence lower clock speeds and lower power limits so lower performance at a similar cost generally.

There are a lot of aspects to display quality other than size and resolution, which are most apparent to buyers. There is the range of colors that can be represented, how close the color shades are to the ones they're supposed to be, granularity of colors that can be represented, maximum and minimum brightness that can be set, ratio of white color brightness to black color brightness, speed at which the pixels change color when the image changes, viewing angles (particularly, note that consistency matters because from any given viewing position the angle from your eye to one part of the screen is different than the angle from your eye to another part of the screen), brightness and color consistency at different areas of the screen, and more. On most cheap laptops, all parameters are pretty bad (at around a high price of 2000 SGD or so, it depends). Generally these specs aren't listed and may vary some from one panel to the next, even when looking at the same model.

Battery life is determined by power consumption (which depends on hardware, software, and how you're using the laptop) and battery capacity. Assuming equal battery voltages and otherwise equal characteristics and all else equal, a battery with 20% more capacity (generally quoted in milliampere-hours, which is mAh) should allow a laptop to operate 20% longer. This is actually a spec that is often listed, though if a runtime is given, that of course depends on operating conditions like screen brightness, Wi-Fi and radio usage, CPU and GPU usage, etc.

edit: The Aspire R7 is expensive because of the Ezel hinge and relative thinness, decent 1080p touchscreen display, being able to be used as a tablet and in laptop configuration and more, etc.
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-08 07:23:12
January 08 2014 07:20 GMT
#8533
On January 08 2014 05:07 Dirkzor wrote:
Thanks.

What I have the most problem understanding is screen and battery quality. What to look for?

I've been looking for something like this :Link
Would that be overkill?


For that price, you might as well get an MSi GT60-2OD (15.6 inches) or MSi GT70-2OD (17.3 inches) which gives you vastly superior specifications (like i7 4700MQ and GTX 780M) but is thicker and heavier.

For something thin, you could go with a gigabyte P35K or MSi GS70, both of which are cheaper and contain better hardware than the Acer.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 08 2014 10:34 GMT
#8534
Thanks for all the help! I feel wiser than ever. =)

I've been looking at the MSi models. They are super expensive in Denmark (and not that common).

Would you ever buy a 3rd gen core?

I'm homing in on what I want. Been looking at this now: link (its on a danish site, scrool down, press the tab "Specifikationer" or "Udvidet" for specs)
The cost is about 1400$ or 1020€.

I still think its hard to know what specs to look for in a decent battery.

I will go talk to my local store soon. I just didn't want to show up without any knowledge. Thanks a bunch again!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
January 08 2014 19:46 GMT
#8535
There isn't much to know about batteries. They hold charge and nothing else, so you basically just want big numbers haha. More cells is better, more mAh is better. Bigger batteries obviously cost more and weigh more.

Battery size isn't everything though. The amount of time you can operate on battery power depends on the configuration: screen size/brightness, CPU/GPU speed and efficiency (this is where those Intel U CPUs excel), SSD vs HDD, etc. It also depends highly on what you're doing, obviously (e.g. you'll get more battery life surfing the web vs playing games).

If you plan on gaming a lot, you'll probably spend most of your time plugged into the wall anyway. Gaming burns up a lot of energy.
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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
January 08 2014 21:21 GMT
#8536
On January 08 2014 19:34 Dirkzor wrote:
Thanks for all the help! I feel wiser than ever. =)

I've been looking at the MSi models. They are super expensive in Denmark (and not that common).

Would you ever buy a 3rd gen core?

I'm homing in on what I want. Been looking at this now: link (its on a danish site, scrool down, press the tab "Specifikationer" or "Udvidet" for specs)
The cost is about 1400$ or 1020€.

I still think its hard to know what specs to look for in a decent battery.

I will go talk to my local store soon. I just didn't want to show up without any knowledge. Thanks a bunch again!


Yes the Lenovo Y510p is one of the best valued laptops. For $1400 in Canada, you should be getting an i7 4700MQ + 2X GTX 750M GPUs in SLI but I'm not sure about the prices in Denmark...
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
January 09 2014 16:08 GMT
#8537
If you are at all interested:

I just bought the MSi GE60: Exact model
Its very similar to the Lenovo y510p I posted earlier. No hybrid, but faster, hd. But the main reason I choose this over the lenovo was the screen. The MSi have a mat finish instead of blank on the Lenovo. I have a very bright (in summer times) apartment so I hope that helps.

Thanks for all your help guys!
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
NoBanMeAgain
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States194 Posts
January 10 2014 00:55 GMT
#8538
I'm having an issue with the quality on Twitch streams...first some background

I have an i5 3570k processor with a radeon hd7750 graphics card and I can play sc2 on ultra with no lag but I cant seem to view twitch streams without stutter on anything but low...is there a reason for that? Can I change any settings to help me?















'Widow mines will split open the earth, releasing the fiery bats of hell. The skies will grow black with the shadows of the medivacs, and they shall see no light but the harsh exhaust of afterburners. MajOr-16:1
z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
January 10 2014 01:12 GMT
#8539
By "stutter" do you mean buffering? (if the stream pauses and you see a dotted/sweeping circle in the center, it's buffering)

Buffering is a connection/internet issue, which can happen for a number of reasons.
twitch.tv/fartymcbutt
NoBanMeAgain
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States194 Posts
January 10 2014 03:55 GMT
#8540
On January 10 2014 10:12 z0rz wrote:
By "stutter" do you mean buffering? (if the stream pauses and you see a dotted/sweeping circle in the center, it's buffering)

Buffering is a connection/internet issue, which can happen for a number of reasons.

no I don't mean that. what I mean is that it lags like crazy! there is no sweeping circle
'Widow mines will split open the earth, releasing the fiery bats of hell. The skies will grow black with the shadows of the medivacs, and they shall see no light but the harsh exhaust of afterburners. MajOr-16:1
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