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Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-29 16:36:48
June 29 2012 16:36 GMT
#3321
On June 30 2012 00:09 TheToast wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 30 2012 00:03 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 17:16 xeo1 wrote:
bought a new pc (i5 3570k, z77 board, 8gb ram, corsair cx430, gtx 460).. yet in max army 1v1 battles I drop down to about 30 fps, with all LOW settings. I added the fps cap in variables.txt as well, 30 in menu 60 in game. what could be the problem? oO


The problem is the way SC2 is programmed. There is absolutely nothing you can do to change that and a better video card won't change a thing.

The only solution is to overclock your CPU. That's why you paid extra for the "K" and Z77 so... start by doing a mild OC (like just increasing the multiplier to 42, disable turbo, leave everything else on auto - especially voltages - it should be stable). That'll increase your minimum FPS by quite a bit.

This is all assuming you have some aftermarket cooling, of course.


What?

He's got a high end i5 ivy bridge and you don't think that should be able to run SC2 above 30FPS on all Low settings? With everything on low he should be getting stupid high framerates, unless he left something like physics set on high. Also, the ivy bridges have been proving to get pretty hot when overclocked. Without an after market cooler I would not suggest trying this.

xeo1, open a new thread. This isn't really a simple question and trying to keep up with answers spread out over 3 pages is going to be annoying as hell. If you can, run something like a 3D mark or a PCmark just to give everyone a baseline idea of what type of performance you're getting out of your hardware.


Come on Toast, why are you putting words in my mouth?

I didn't say "I don't think that should be able to run SC2 above 30FPS on all Low settings" or "overclock without aftermarket cooling".

I do agree that "about 30 FPS" in maxed battles does sound a little low, but we need more info. Like what that maxed battle looks like (lots of big units or small ones) and his temps.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
June 29 2012 17:42 GMT
#3322
On June 29 2012 17:16 xeo1 wrote:
bought a new pc (i5 3570k, z77 board, 8gb ram, corsair cx430, gtx 460).. yet in max army 1v1 battles I drop down to about 30 fps, with all LOW settings. I added the fps cap in variables.txt as well, 30 in menu 60 in game. what could be the problem? oO

Are the drivers for your graphics card up-to-date?
Kirbtacular
Profile Joined July 2011
United States64 Posts
June 29 2012 18:34 GMT
#3323
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150608&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Video Cards-_-XFX-_-14150608&AID=10440897&PID=3938566&SID=

Are there any detriments to picking this model in particular compared to it's more expensive 7850 brethren? Its price is really attractive but the reviews are less than stellar.
RiSkySc21
Profile Joined June 2012
1 Post
June 30 2012 02:08 GMT
#3324
How do you set up a stream on teamliquid?
Ignorance is the human quality i despise the most
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
June 30 2012 03:49 GMT
#3325
What are the most balanced intel processors for a 6670 gddr3? 7750 ggdr5?
carmon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
June 30 2012 09:01 GMT
#3326
So I recently got the 3570k and I've noticed in CPU-Z the processor only goes up to 3600mhz at 100% load (100 buss speed 36 multiplier) anyone know the reason why? I thought the 3570k goes up to 3800 mhz with turbo boost?
WarBobz
Profile Joined September 2011
68 Posts
June 30 2012 10:36 GMT
#3327
Would you recommend switching an Nvidia gtx 430 (2 gigs ram) or the AMD Athlon ii x2 (2,79 ghz, 2 gigs ram) for playing sc2 at 60+ fps in 800x800 (4v4 huge scale battle) on atleast low(Prefferably medium, max 1280x1024)? With the same socket as the AMD that is.
Ahem. My time to shine. I haz 4k+ achi points and I'm zerg! =D
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 12:17:10
June 30 2012 12:14 GMT
#3328
On June 30 2012 18:01 carmon wrote:
So I recently got the 3570k and I've noticed in CPU-Z the processor only goes up to 3600mhz at 100% load (100 buss speed 36 multiplier) anyone know the reason why? I thought the 3570k goes up to 3800 mhz with turbo boost?


Turbo frequency partially depends on how many cores are loaded.

On June 30 2012 19:36 WarBobz wrote:
Would you recommend switching an Nvidia gtx 430 (2 gigs ram) or the AMD Athlon ii x2 (2,79 ghz, 2 gigs ram) for playing sc2 at 60+ fps in 800x800 (4v4 huge scale battle) on atleast low(Prefferably medium, max 1280x1024)? With the same socket as the AMD that is.


Get rid of the CPU, but it's better to wait until you can actually move up to a superior socket. Save up some money and move to something Intel, socket 1155.

On June 30 2012 12:49 domane wrote:
What are the most balanced intel processors for a 6670 gddr3? 7750 ggdr5?


That depends on resolution and what you want to do with the PC, and is not particularly simple unless you narrow down the scope of the question a bit.
Wild Weasel
Profile Joined January 2012
United States52 Posts
June 30 2012 18:16 GMT
#3329
What options would I have if my graphics cards is overheating (again)? And I don't want to have to pay $25 to RMA it (again), and get the same card with the same cooler. Because if I RMA this card again, I could have gotten a 6950 for the same price and a better cooler. The card is a HIS Radeon 6870. I've checked temps in MSI Afterburner, and I got 80C while playing SC2, more while playing something more demanding like Crysis.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 19:21:17
June 30 2012 19:08 GMT
#3330
On June 30 2012 21:14 JingleHell wrote:
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On June 30 2012 12:49 domane wrote:
What are the most balanced intel processors for a 6670 gddr3? 7750 ggdr5?


That depends on resolution and what you want to do with the PC, and is not particularly simple unless you narrow down the scope of the question a bit.

That makes sense.

My resolution is 1280x1024 (using an 8-year-old 17-inch monitor, 60hz)

I want to play games at medium or higher settings (without intense filtering, shadows, water effects, or other extras), watch streams, youtube, and other videos smoothly at 720p or higher, leave 10 tabs open while browsing the internet.

Out of the intels with low thermal design power (<95W), which ones are the best for a 6670 gddr3? For a 7750 gddr5?
cemicolin
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2 Posts
June 30 2012 20:00 GMT
#3331
I'm trying to find a place to buy the MSI MultiConnect Panel and/or Voice Genie, but I can't find a retailer that carries them.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MSI-MultiConnect-Panel-Voice-Genie-Wi-FI-Bluetooth-3.0,14383.html
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 30 2012 21:34 GMT
#3332
Does SC2 run better in windowed mode or normal, or doesn't it matter ? (= I have old computer, would the game run better in windowed mode than in normal?)
EdenPLusDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
571 Posts
June 30 2012 21:56 GMT
#3333
On July 01 2012 06:34 zezamer wrote:
Does SC2 run better in windowed mode or normal, or doesn't it matter ? (= I have old computer, would the game run better in windowed mode than in normal?)


Windowed mode will perform worse than normal fullscreen.
Strafe578
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada67 Posts
June 30 2012 22:47 GMT
#3334
Hello, Im wondering why some games that I play on my laptop increases the temperatures more than other games. Example, League of legends runs at 70C, SC2 runs at 80C and BF:BC2 runs at 90C. [Ambient temps are around 22C] It is running at 1080p all games max (SC2 on high).

Im using the default 1080p monitor on the laptop for game and a external 1600x900 VGA monitor for viewing streams etc. while playing if this affects the temperatures at all.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 30 2012 22:50 GMT
#3335
On July 01 2012 07:47 Strafe578 wrote:
Hello, Im wondering why some games that I play on my laptop increases the temperatures more than other games. Example, League of legends runs at 70C, SC2 runs at 80C and BF:BC2 runs at 90C. [Ambient temps are around 22C] It is running at 1080p all games max (SC2 on high).

Im using the default 1080p monitor on the laptop for game and a external 1600x900 VGA monitor for viewing streams etc. while playing if this affects the temperatures at all.


The higher the load, the hotter the temps... Kind of normal.
Strafe578
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-30 22:54:39
June 30 2012 22:53 GMT
#3336
On July 01 2012 07:50 JingleHell wrote:
The higher the load, the hotter the temps... Kind of normal.


Sry I forgot to mention that the temps only apply to the cpu (i7-3610QM) the gpu stays around 70C for all games. Im sorry I forgot to mention this =/ but isinit SC2 more cpu dependent than BF:BC2. How come the temperatures are still higher.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 30 2012 23:02 GMT
#3337
On July 01 2012 07:53 Strafe578 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 07:50 JingleHell wrote:
The higher the load, the hotter the temps... Kind of normal.


Sry I forgot to mention that the temps only apply to the cpu (i7-3610QM) the gpu stays around 70C for all games. Im sorry I forgot to mention this =/ but isinit SC2 more cpu dependent than BF:BC2. How come the temperatures are still higher.


LoL is less CPU dependent than SC2. Battlefield is more CPU abusive compared to GPU abuse than most shooters, so depending on the circumstances I could see it, especially since SC2 is definitely only using 2 threads, and IIRC, doesn't BC2 thread better than SC2?
Strafe578
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada67 Posts
June 30 2012 23:14 GMT
#3338
Hmm, Ok, Thank you very much for helping me (again =p) Im going to consider lowering the settings to avoid the 90C range.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
June 30 2012 23:15 GMT
#3339
Is cleaning your cpu, gpu and rest of case ok to do with a normal brush?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 30 2012 23:15 GMT
#3340
On July 01 2012 08:15 Lineridarz wrote:
Is cleaning your cpu, gpu and rest of case ok to do with a normal brush?


If you mean cleaning heatsinks and cables, yes, if you mean cleaning chips and circuit boards, no.
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