EPTPoint of reference.. I played UT competitively and with a 3200dpi mouse I used a DPI setting of only 180. 180/3200, 6/11 windows was all the speed I needed.
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pksens
United Kingdom156 Posts
Point of reference.. I played UT competitively and with a 3200dpi mouse I used a DPI setting of only 180. 180/3200, 6/11 windows was all the speed I needed. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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doktorfrost
Germany63 Posts
On August 28 2011 18:41 pksens wrote: They are the same.. the only reason you want to have high DPI is if you have a large resolution and want a fast sensitivity with it... Point of reference.. I played UT competitively and with a 3200dpi mouse I used a DPI setting of only 180. 180/3200, 6/11 windows was all the speed I needed. but if the mouse has double the information then maybe it is more accurat? or maybe it is even worse cause more data has to be send? i m just asking here.. really dont know much of the details of the electronics and the protocols used in mouse transfer data.. | ||
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pksens
United Kingdom156 Posts
for example the Steelseries XAI that I have; You can set DPI from 100-5001. It's native hard DPI is around 1620/5001 I believe. It uses software to calculate your DPI rather than the sensor when you use different settings of DPI, which infact is less accurate than some other DPI settings. F.e. you want to stick to intervals of 90 dpi with a XAI, because if you set say 104, it will do 90DPI and adjust your sensitivity through software to ~~~104, with room for error. Infact I was using a few tests back in my UT days that it didn't show hardly any difference when I was changing between small increments of DPI until I hit some thresholds. I would personally suggest using native mouse DPI's if you have a game that allows you to change the sensitivity (not the windows setting), otherwise: Use 6/11 windows, set SC2 to 51-54% (6/11 windows), and adjust your DPI to the sensitivity that you desire. In case if's a Xai, use increments of 90. | ||
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NewbieOne
Poland560 Posts
I used to be a big fan of travelling large distances by a minuscule, barely visible movement of the hand. This especially when I had a nice, accurate ball mouse. Nobody else could use my computer. Can't really do that with huge dpis on optical and laser mouse, especially with big screens. Burst movements may combine well with acceleration, actually, as travelling distance of the cursor is then determined basing on speed rather than actual distance covered by the mouse. Hence, with the right muscle memory, a player can limit himself to delivering short impulses of varied strength, basically. I liked doing that until something changed in my muscle pains and it became more painful than just dragging it (it was the opposite before). | ||
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RaKooNs
United Kingdom397 Posts
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XQlusive
Netherlands58 Posts
everything in windows above 6/11 slider give the person positive accelaration there for there are faster mouses with more dpi to fix that problem for the humans that need more speed without losing precision | ||
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iloveav
Poland1478 Posts
There are so many things that actually have an impact here that its kinda stupid :D. Pixels, aspect ratios, size of monitor, ammount of details in the game, size of the cursor, minimap size (in rts games), fingers size in relation to mice size, mice weight, pad size, arm size... I think i covered some of them. The way this affects your gameplay is personal so i cant give "good" settings. But if you are unsure, get some imposibly fast ums (like the broodwar ghost sniping called 1a2a3a), and test each new setting for at least 1 hour to get used to it. (if you dont get used to it first it will always seem bad). Or spend countless hours in missionred. I no longer do that, i just play :D. | ||
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chipman
United States139 Posts
Let's say you're comfortable with 800 dpi with 6/11 windows and 54% sc2. Is there a reason to not increase the DPI on the mouse to 1600 and scaling down your sc2 sensitivity accordingly? Or increasing your dpi to 5600 and further syncing down sc2 settings. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:27 chipman wrote: Is there a reason to adjust the sc2 settings before DPI? Let's say you're comfortable with 800 dpi with 6/11 windows and 54% sc2. Is there a reason to not increase the DPI on the mouse to 1600 and scaling down your sc2 sensitivity accordingly? Or increasing your dpi to 5600 and further syncing down sc2 settings. I usually try to adjust in-game settings to match similar game types, and then have a DPI setting for different types of games, but thats just me. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On October 10 2011 02:27 chipman wrote: Is there a reason to adjust the sc2 settings before DPI? Let's say you're comfortable with 800 dpi with 6/11 windows and 54% sc2. Is there a reason to not increase the DPI on the mouse to 1600 and scaling down your sc2 sensitivity accordingly? Or increasing your dpi to 5600 and further syncing down sc2 settings. you should always have the SC2 settings at 6/11 windows and likw 54% in sc2 because that way there's no acceleration. The rest you'll set up via the mouse drivers. I currently use a 1080p screen with Razer Abyssus at 3500DPI and in drivers its at 8.5/10 so that equals around 3000 DPI. If you're a palm gripper / play FPS the higher DPI is useless. | ||
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chipman
United States139 Posts
I guess I'm just confused how everything comes together. You have your DPI or pixels per inch of movement, then you have the windows adjustment (and a box for "enhance precision"?) and then you have the sensitivity adjustments in the games as well as reslution. It's pretty confusing to someone new to the concept of dpi. I'm looking to buy my first gaming mouse and I want to buy the right one. I love my basic logitech anywhere. I grip it between my thumb and my ring finger and rest my pinky either right below my ring finger or just naturally kind of keep it just above the surface to the side, like I were holding a cup. This gives me a mostly claw/fingertip grip where I pretty much just almost plant my wrist on the table/pad and pivot at my wrist (I'm a guitar player, it's natural) as well as move a little with my fingers, there is a small/medium space between my palm and the top/back of the mouse. Right now I have my sc2 settings pretty high because I don't like making large sweeping movements (I have limited space to operate in too). Thinking about grabbing a SSeries Sensei or a G9X, though since I'm used to claw gripping I may be leaning more towards the logi. | ||
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landaishan
Australia104 Posts
On March 15 2011 18:08 IKenshinI wrote: pick a setting and stick with it until you are pinpoint accurate with it and are able to go anywhere on your screen accurately without thinking about it ~_~ if you have that, then no "setting" really matters, be it dpi or speed take it from more than a decade ago quake pro, this is bad advice if youre a high level player. having the right mouse with the right sensitivity and no accel or snapping/prediction is extremely important in achieving as close to perfection as you possibly can | ||
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20284 Posts
On August 28 2011 18:43 Jibba wrote: It depends where you're setting mouse speed. In Windows, it should always be 6/11. In SC2, I know in the past it upped Windows sens if you moved it past 59% but I'm not sure if it's still the case. Technically they're the same, but I'd go with #2 in case the above problem still exists. You never want to move Windows speed above 6/11. Since the thread got necro'd anyway id like to add that the "money window" is 51-54%, and not 59 for 6/11 windows sens in sc2 | ||
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-Debaser-
United States329 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20284 Posts
On January 01 2012 04:16 ayrsen wrote: so with my 400dpi mouse im basically screwed in terms of accuracy if i go to 8/11 or above? Above 6/11 will skip pixels, and acceleration will cause a ton of problems yes. Honestly with a 400dpi mouse just use whatever settings you want on the 1-11 slider, skipping pixels is better than acceleration etc, and 400dpi is far too low for most people to work with. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On January 01 2012 04:16 ayrsen wrote: so with my 400dpi mouse im basically screwed in terms of accuracy if i go to 8/11 or above? Yeah pretty much. Unless you can adjust the DPI. | ||
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Apokalipse
Australia34 Posts
I also used a registry patch to disable the Windows mouse acceleration (you can't actually disable it completely in control panel) Having a high DPI with 1:1 pixel mapping in software tends to mean your mouse cursor moves fast relative to your hand movement. This means you have to have higher accuracy with your hand movements to get the same on-screen accuracy. So, low sensitivity is more accurate. But you don't exactly want to have to drag your mouse three kilometres to reach each end of the screen either. So, I'd recommend you put your DPI to a low setting that's high enough for you to move between each screen edge comfortably. | ||
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devinleahy
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