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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Warillions
United States215 Posts
so far i got PS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068 CASE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025 GPU HD 6850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 CPU I3-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 DVD BURNER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 MONITOR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052 I dont know what mobo to get and this budget so far is pretty high. i overshot by about 250-300 bucks really but i got greedy  any input? possible downgrades or substitutions? | ||
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Wabbit
United States1028 Posts
On March 08 2012 03:51 Warillions wrote: building a pc budget is 600-700 ish including monitor included in budget. cant figure out what mobo at all but so far i got PS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068 CASE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025 GPU HD 6850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 CPU I3-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 DVD BURNER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 MONITOR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052 I dont know what mobo to get and this budget so far is pretty high. i overshot by about 250-300 bucks really but i got greedy any input? possible downgrades or substitutions?This Gigabyte 6850 is a better buy (should be quieter, about the same price after rebate): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353 Capstone 550 is a great PSU but for that system you can easily get away with a less expensive PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207018 That case isn't so great... top-mounted PSU and no cable management among other things.. it will work if you must really have the looks, but I would get a HAF 912 (best case in its price range) or an NZXT Gamma Classic or Source 210 or Tempest 210, or for something a little more stylish the Fractal Core 3000 or Lian-Li PC-K58 but those cost more and your budget is limited. Also a P67 mobo doesn't make sense with an i3 since you can't overclock it. You can grab a H61 for as low as ~$50 but I'd personally grab an ASUS or Gigabyte or Biostar board that at least has Realtek audio and networking chipsets and 3yr warranty vs ASrock's 1. Grab the cheapest DDR3-1333 1.5V RAM. Greater frequency offers 0 or close to 0 performance increase in most applications/games. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 08 2012 03:51 Warillions wrote:+ Show Spoiler + building a pc budget is 600-700 ish including monitor included in budget. cant figure out what mobo at all but so far i got PS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068 CASE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146025 GPU HD 6850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 CPU I3-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428 HD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 DVD BURNER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244 MONITOR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052 I dont know what mobo to get and this budget so far is pretty high. i overshot by about 250-300 bucks really but i got greedy any input? possible downgrades or substitutions?Core i3 2100 cannot be overclocked so getting a P67 board would essentially be throwing money out the window. Get a H61 or H67 motherboard instead, H67 provides SATA 6Gbps whereas the H61 does not (SATA 6Gbps may prove useful if you are getting an SSD later). Asrock H61M-VS can be had for $50: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 Memory is ridiculously overpriced. You can get memory in combo with the GPU for a total of $185: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851650 Promo code SAPP305 still works with this so you would essentially be getting memory for $35. Intel Core i3 2100 for $125 is overpriced. Core i3 2120 is available for $113 with promo code EMCNGND32 (ends 3/12): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115077 If you want to split your order between two retailers, you can get some thinngs for less such as the optical drive for $16: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1009 , the Seagate Barracuda 500GB for $76: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468&promoid=1009 The case is sort of shit, you can get a Coolermaster HAF912 for same price with a mail in rebate and less shipping: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233 Again if you have no problem purchasing from NCIX as well, you can get it for $50: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1009 NCIX has free shipping for all orders over $50 and under 200lbs excluding the usual Hawaii, Alaska, etc. Although Rosewill Capstone is very good, it is sort of unnecessary for this configuration. You can just get an Antec Earthwatts 380D, Antec Neo Eco 400C, or Corsair CX430V2 for $30 less. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 | ||
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Warillions
United States215 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
To me the possibly bigger deal with the H61M-VS is the Ethernet being limited to 100 Mbps (as opposed to 1000 Mbps), but that's only a bottleneck if you're potentially transferring stuff over a local network--the vast majority of people are going to be limited by the speeds to their ISPs for any outgoing or incoming traffic, and unless you have some ridiculous plan, it's generally quite a bit lower than 100 Mbps. edit: oh and also no PCI slots Again, just get whatever motherboard is cheap and has everything you need. (Are you going to use PCI slots, multiple PCI Express slots, more than 4 optical drives + hard drives, multi-channel audio, a fast SSD, Gigabit Ethernet, eSATA, Firewire, USB3, or what?) a generally safe bet includes USB3 and may be like this, though maybe you don't want that: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157246 | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
CPU: i5 2500k + 8gb ram Motherboard: Asrock P67 Cooler: Cooler Master 212 GPU: MSI 560ti 1gb PSU: XFX 450W Case: Cooler Master case HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500gb DVD: some dvd Wireless: some wireless Total comes out to $892.91 with shipping. Comments? Trying to keep it below $900. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 08 2012 12:58 skyR wrote: Your memory is overpriced but we already went through this. Wait didn't you link me that cpu + memory deal? | ||
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Nabutso
351 Posts
Do you not have an old HDD you can use for storage? You could get a 64gb (or 120gb ssd if you find some savings in your build). Would greatly increase boot speed and you can install SC2 on it aswell, load games faster etc (although, you'd still have to wait for the other player if they dont have an SSD) | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 08 2012 12:59 Nabutso wrote: You could get a slightly cheaper PSU if you're worried about the rebate (like a neo eco 450w or anything similar). Do you not have an old HDD you can use for storage? You could get a 64gb (or 120gb ssd if you find some savings in your build). Would greatly increase boot speed and you can install SC2 on it aswell, load games faster etc (although, you'd still have to wait for the other player if they dont have an SSD) The last time I used a desktop (and god forbid I ever go the route of high performance laptops again...) HDDs were uhh.... let's say small. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On March 08 2012 12:59 skyR wrote: Yes but that's not what you had initially -.- I was replying to your pre-edit. haha I noticed I forgot to edit it in  | ||
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Nabutso
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On March 08 2012 12:59 EtherealDeath wrote: The last time I used a desktop (and god forbid I ever go the route of high performance laptops again...) HDDs were uhh.... let's say small. I know that feel, man. My Ipod had more storage at the time that I had my old PC still up and running as my main source of entertainment.. | ||
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tWR
Canada138 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 08 2012 13:02 tWR wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I'm currently in the market for putting together a Computer and was curious what I should be looking for when it comes to graphics cards and manufacturers. I know that certain manufacturers do different things with different graphics cards as to do with the cooling. I know that I want to do the GT 560 Ti comparing the manufacturers ASUS and eVGA. Any help is great, I'll be posting my build later for consideration, and perhaps you guys can help me save a buck! The differences between manufacturers is post-sale support, warranty, PCB, heatsink, and the clock speeds the card is binned for. I wouldn't worry about clock speed much since you can do the overclocking yourself in software without voiding warranty and most cards can easily hit all the clock speeds that the manufacturer bins for. PCB differences, I wouldn't worry about this either since you aren't knowledgeable and it's only a GTX 560 Ti. For the most part, every card you'll look at will most likely just be using the reference design. EVGA -AR products have a lifetime warranty while -KR has a three year warranty with the option to pay extra to extend to five or ten years. ASUS and Gigabyte offer a three year warranty. MSI offers a two year labor / three year parts warranty. ASUS and MSI has RMA centers in Ontario while EVGA and Gigabyte has it in Cali. The varying manufacturers use either the reference Nvidia heatsink or their own heatsink. If you aren't looking for anything special than you can just get one of the inexpensive ones using the reference design or a cut down variant of their good heatsink. MSI Twin Frozr III / II, ASUS DirectCu II, and Gigabyte Windforce are all well regarded for thermals and acoustics. EVGA DS is pretty new and usually overpriced as well. | ||
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tWR
Canada138 Posts
On March 08 2012 13:20 skyR wrote: The differences between manufacturers is post-sale support, warranty, PCB, heatsink, and the clock speeds the card is binned for. I wouldn't worry about clock speed much since you can do the overclocking yourself in software without voiding warranty and most cards can easily hit all the clock speeds that the manufacturer bins for. PCB differences, I wouldn't worry about this either since you aren't knowledgeable and it's only a GTX 560 Ti. For the most part, every card you'll look at will most likely just be using the reference design. EVGA -AR products have a lifetime warranty while -KR has a three year warranty with the option to pay extra to extend to five or ten years. ASUS and Gigabyte offer a three year warranty. MSI offers a two year labor / three year parts warranty. ASUS and MSI has RMA centers in Ontario while EVGA and Gigabyte has it in Cali. The varying manufacturers use either the reference Nvidia heatsink or their own heatsink. If you aren't looking for anything special than you can just get one of the inexpensive ones using the reference design or a cut down variant of their good heatsink. MSI Twin Frozr III / II, ASUS DirectCu II, and Gigabyte Windforce are all well regarded for thermals and acoustics. EVGA DS is pretty new and usually overpriced as well. Thanks, I think I'll be sticking with the ASUS ones, if they have manufacturers in Ontario, if anything goes wrong. | ||
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tWR
Canada138 Posts
Alright, so here are my plans with the computer: I really want a system that plays games well whilst performing well at other mundane tasks. I also do some programming and image editting (InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator at the same time) so factor that in as well. My Budget: 1500$ Upgrade cycle: 1.5-2 years I live in Canada, and don't have any access to any sort of online payments (i.e. Credit card) so the stores I have to work with are: Canada Computers and Filtech Computers. I'm alittle wary of the second one, I went in there and it seemed alittle sketchy, I would only go in there if I had a list and didn't have to talk to any of the attendants. So here was what my initial research has garnered me: Case: Phantom 410 mid-case http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_112&item_id=044286 Processor: i7-2600 Quad-core LG1155 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=035533 Motherboard: P8P67 Deluxe (rev. 3.0) http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=036779 Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 560 Ti 1GB http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=043690 SDD: Corsair Performance 3 Series 128GB http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179&item_id=045025 RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_612&item_id=040047 Disk Drive: LG black SATA DVD-Writer http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_61&item_id=044783 Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 850W http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_443&item_id=042107 Also include both Windows 7 Home edition and a 100 dollar 19" monitor. Alright so my aims with this build was to make it strong initially with the ability to do SLI in the future and add in a HDD when I needed it for capacity; I figure having a SDD for all my tools and OS on, will make it faster. My main concern is the pieces fitting together appropriately and doing what I expect them too (without bottlenecking). I'm also concerned with the pricing, using this build with taxes I go over my budget by a bit (~100$) is there anyway that I could modify certain parts to cut some of the price down. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 08 2012 14:17 tWR wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Okay, so I really am nervous about posting this; I'll admit I'm a total computer noob and really want to put one together myself, but really have been scared about the huge investment and worried about all the parts being effective together. Alright, so here are my plans with the computer: I really want a system that plays games well whilst performing well at other mundane tasks. I also do some programming and image editting (InDesign, Photoshop, and Illustrator at the same time) so factor that in as well. My Budget: 1500$ Upgrade cycle: 1.5-2 years I live in Canada, and don't have any access to any sort of online payments (i.e. Credit card) so the stores I have to work with are: Canada Computers and Filtech Computers. I'm alittle wary of the second one, I went in there and it seemed alittle sketchy, I would only go in there if I had a list and didn't have to talk to any of the attendants. So here was what my initial research has garnered me: Case: Phantom 410 mid-case http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_112&item_id=044286 Processor: i7-2600 Quad-core LG1155 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_65&item_id=035533 Motherboard: P8P67 Deluxe (rev. 3.0) http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=036779 Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 560 Ti 1GB http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=043690 SDD: Corsair Performance 3 Series 128GB http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=179&item_id=045025 RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_312_612&item_id=040047 Disk Drive: LG black SATA DVD-Writer http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=3_61&item_id=044783 Power Supply: NZXT HALE82 850W http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=33_443&item_id=042107 Also include both Windows 7 Home edition and a 100 dollar 19" monitor. Alright so my aims with this build was to make it strong initially with the ability to do SLI in the future and add in a HDD when I needed it for capacity; I figure having a SDD for all my tools and OS on, will make it faster. My main concern is the pieces fitting together appropriately and doing what I expect them too (without bottlenecking). I'm also concerned with the pricing, using this build with taxes I go over my budget by a bit (~100$) is there anyway that I could modify certain parts to cut some of the price down. Filtech Computer is in Toronto so you would have access to NCIX as well.. unless you're lazy and don't want to travel that far? NCIX has a much better selection than Canada Computers and the smaller retailers such as Filtech. Your build is awful but I'm guessing you already know this. Though both the P8P67 Deluxe and NZXT Hale82 are very good, both are unnecessary. A core i7 2600k is required for overclocking. If you want to do SLI, it is strongly suggested to overclock as only P67 / Z68 boards can do SLI. Getting these boards without overclocking would just be throwing money out the window. The more expensive motherboards you will never put to full use because you're a novice. A GTX 560 Ti SLI configuration will never come close to needing 850w of power, it won't even break 600w. Both the optical drive and memory are severely overpriced. I wouldn't get a refurbished SSD... And a 19" monitor isn't even 1080p so getting a GTX 560 Ti would be a waste of money... doing SLI would just be wasting even more money. And if you're afraid of putting it together yourself, you can just pay NCIX or Canada Computers to do it for you. NCIX does it for $50, Canada Computers I think is $75. | ||
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tylervoss4
182 Posts
budget: $100ish i live in canada | ||
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